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    it was easier when they had their own bathrooms.

    remember when they knew their place?
    Why don't you just shut up with that racist . This is different.

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    Why don't you just shut up with that racist . This is different.
    Never trust a black surgeon, right?

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    Never trust a black surgeon, right?
    My God man. Do you forget what I meant? I said there was reason not to know if they really archived their place by merit, rather than because of skin color. It is a fact. Because of affirmative action, merit is thrown out the window. It has done more harm to black professions than good.

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    Chumpdumper, so I'm a Klan member because I think Sotomayor got on the Supreme Court because of her race? Is everyone a racist if they say someone got ahead or got something in their favor because of affirmative action? And is everyone a racist if they say they are against affirmative action?

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    I don't think people are familiar with who the primary beneficiaries of Affirmative Action are. Hint: it's not a person of color.

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    That's fine, but there have been actual cases students wanting to attend colleges that were not allowed to. Also, better than the required scores. With limited slots available, to get the proper quota's, students with lower qualifications took their place instead. Just because of skin color. When there are limited slots, they should be allocated by merit.


    when an applicant is up for a seat against another there is always going to be some variable that sets them apart. the problem that affirmative action opponents have is that race is considered a variable when a college or university is trying to get a more representative demographic of the population it serves . the question is why it is that all other variables (including legacy and the frequent abuses of nepotism) are deemed inconsequential.

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    Chumpdumper, so I'm a Klan member because I think Sotomayor got on the Supreme Court because of her race? Is everyone a racist if they say someone got ahead or got something in their favor because of affirmative action? And is everyone a racist if they say they are against affirmative action?
    not necessarily, but they are definitely making judgements based on race (which, ironically enough, is exactly what they are claiming opposition to).

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    Why don't you just shut up with that racist . This is different.
    you can't talk to me like this.

    do i have to remind you that you were a white welfare child?

    i'll tell you when you can drink from my fountain.

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    when an applicant is up for a seat against another there is always going to be some variable that sets them apart. the problem that affirmative action opponents have is that race is considered a variable when a college or university is trying to get a more representative demographic of the population it serves . the question is why it is that all other variables (including legacy and the frequent abuses of nepotism) are deemed inconsequential.
    I agree that all these factors should eliminated from the equation.

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    you can't talk to me like this.

    do i have to remind you that you were a white welfare child?

    i'll tell you when you can drink from my fountain.
    Ha. Ha...

    Too bad you take facts out of context and people know it.

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    My God man. Do you forget what I meant? I said there was reason not to know if they really archived their place by merit, rather than because of skin color. It is a fact. Because of affirmative action, merit is thrown out the window. It has done more harm to black professions than good.
    See, I begin from the assumption - one that my experience tells me is well-founded - that I can't judge qualifications based upon skin color, gender, or ethincity. That saves me from making asinine statements like universally questioning the qualifications of broad groups of professionals based on their immutable characteristics and without regard to who they actually are. The marketplace will take care of those who are unqualified, whether they are white or black or male or female.

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    Chumpdumper, so I'm a Klan member because I think Sotomayor got on the Supreme Court because of her race? Is everyone a racist if they say someone got ahead or got something in their favor because of affirmative action? And is everyone a racist if they say they are against affirmative action?
    I'm saying if you want a scholarship for being white, the Klan is probably a good place to start. You certainly aren't going to get any scholarships for your intelligence, such as it is.

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    Chumpdumper, do you want to place a bet on my intelligence? I have a college degree, dumbass. Do you have one? How did you feel about your woman admitting that she has benefitted from affirmative action? If you would stop sucking Obama's and stop stereotyping and generalizing people for your own political agenda then you wouldn't be such a dumbass.

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    I have a college degree. I have gotten scholarships based on academic and test performance.

    I think Sotomayor has benefited from affirmative action in the past. She has succeeded tremendously because of that past affirmative action. If you can argue someone else was more qualified for this appointment to the Supreme Court, you could claim that she was an affirmative action choice this time. You have completely failed in this regard. Perhaps you should stop whining and try to back up your argument for once.

    Sotomayor is not my woman.

    Have you checked with your local Wizard about the scholarships? I'm sure they'll hook you up.

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    I don't need a damn scholarship. How the can Sotomayor not be an affirmative action choice? Obama said that he wanted to make history on the Supreme Court. Be appointing Sotomayor, he did that. I'm not going to win the argument because you are so far to the left that you're blinded with your allegiance to Obama and the Democratic Party that you can't be objective. There's no point in arguing because you are an ideologue. You never say anything negative or critical of Obama. It's like the man can do no wrong. I voted for Bush in 2004 but I can admit that he made a million mistakes as president and that he wasn't a good president either.

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    Ha. Ha...

    Too bad you take facts out of context and people know it.
    do i have to remind you that you were a welfare child?

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    I don't need a damn scholarship.
    Then why are you whining about other people's getting scholarships?
    How the can Sotomayor not be an affirmative action choice? Obama said that he wanted to make history on the Supreme Court. Be appointing Sotomayor, he did that.
    Maybe he already had Sotomayor in mind from the start since she was so qualified -- the history just happened to be a nice bonus.
    I'm not going to win the argument because you are so far to the left that you're blinded with your allegiance to Obama and the Democratic Party that you can't be objective.
    I'm actually relatively moderate.
    There's no point in arguing because you are an ideologue.
    Nah, you won't win because you are kinda stupid.
    You never say anything negative or critical of Obama.
    Sure I have. You were too busy being white to notice.
    It's like the man can do no wrong. I voted for Bush in 2004 but I can admit that he made a million mistakes as president and that he wasn't a good president either.
    Obama has made mistakes.

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    do i have to remind you that you were a welfare child?
    You know, stupid stuff like that is why I had you on IGNORE for so long. Just because when I was 12 years old, my mother applied for food stamps for maybe 3 months, until she started working after my parents divorce...

    Does that really count in your eyes?

    Why is that so important for you to always bring up? What is that strange obsession of yours?

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    If you would stop sucking Obama's
    sounds like college to me.

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    sounds like college to me.
    No . Why are these guys obsessed with gay sex acts? Can they leave their obsession out of even one thread?

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    You know, stupid stuff like that is why I had you on IGNORE for so long. Just because when I was 12 years old, my mother applied for food stamps for maybe 3 months, until she started working after my parents divorce...

    Does that really count in your eyes?

    Why is that so important for you to always bring up? What is that strange obsession of yours?
    it's classic freud. you hate welfare people because you hate yourself...as one of them.

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    it's classic freud. you hate welfare people because you hate yourself...as one of them.
    Fail...

    I clearly explained in that initial post that I didn't like seeing what my mother went through, and that she did what she could to stand on her own two feet as fast as possible. Her conservatism was passed on to me.

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    a real conservative wouldn't be caught dead begging for welfare.

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    a real conservative wouldn't be caught dead begging for welfare.
    I just found the two times I brought it up:

    My life was not sheltered. I grew up learning about life and responsibility growing up poor. I do know what food stamps are. My mother used to get them after my parents divorced, as I was growing up. However, when I did have a family structure. My parents did not utilize any government programs. We just did without many things that other people had.
    In a thread some time back, I mentioned my mother used food stamps after my parents were divorced. She, however, used them like they were suppose to be used. As needed. She got a job, later earned more money, and got off them.
    Why are you such an idiot. If you're going to make fun of me, cannot you at least be intelligent about it?

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