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    It could get a third of what they promised and still be a game changer.

    That number seems about in line with that of other plug in EV's; mainly the Aptera. And I don't know, if the Tesla's getting 150+ MPG from their Roadster then I'd believe that some slow ass Chevy could conceivably add another 100 to that.

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    Sounds almost too good to be true. We'll probably find out that it only weighs 300 lbs and is made of recycled cardboard.

    I'd hold out for crash test results.

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    Wow. If that's true, and they can keep the price under 50,000, I'll almost definitely get one.

    Although, assuming all our cars go electric... we'll have to come up with a better than than miles per GALLON...

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    Suppposedly, this VW will get 285 mpg, but I don't think I want to be on any Texas roads in this bank teller vacuum tube.




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    I think I saw that car in the movie "Brazil"...

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    I wouldn't mind commuting in one of those....

    when they get the Hummers, Avalanches, Yukons, and Escalades off the road.

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    I wouldn't mind commuting in one of those....

    when they get the Hummers, Avalanches, Yukons, and Escalades off the road.


    Exactly. Not to mention the commercial vehicles.

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    I'm actually a fan of the way The Aptera looks. People would definitely notice you, but meh, it beats that VW above IMO.


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    Even if they got the price all the way down to 35,000 it still wouldn't be worth it. The price would need to be around 25k for it to be a logical move. Spending 250 monthly to save 200 monthly is the kind of I expect my winter texans to buy into.

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    Yeah, but believe it or not, for teh good liberals, not everything is about monetarily breaking even.

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    It could get a third of what they promised and still be a game changer.

    That number seems about in line with that of other plug in EV's; mainly the Aptera. And I don't know, if the Tesla's getting 150+ MPG from their Roadster then I'd believe that some slow ass Chevy could conceivably add another 100 to that.
    I agree, it's a player at far less than the claim. That's my concern. If it's hyped, then people might be unhappy with their decision if they buy because they believe what might be hype. Something that will be as good as it is, I hope the claim is real. It could be 150 MPG claim, and it could be a hot seller.

    As for the Tesla, it is reported at 120 MPG efficiency of electricity? Regardless, it is more streamline chassis being on a lotus rather than a sedan. If GM is making a 240 MPG claim for electricity alone, that seems a real big stretch to me. Then with in inefficient of recharging with an IC engine, I find it impossible on gas to get close. If it used a fuel cell that converted hydrocarbon chains to electricity, I could see 240 MPG. That's the only way. Not the article does have a pic that says "fuel cell" in it, but then the article says "Internal combustion engine also. Is there a mistake in the article, or a misleading pic?

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    Wow. If that's true, and they can keep the price under 50,000, I'll almost definitely get one.

    Although, assuming all our cars go electric... we'll have to come up with a better than than miles per GALLON...
    I agree. Miles per KWH (kilo-watt-hours)

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    Yeah, but believe it or not, for teh good liberals, not everything is about monetarily breaking even.
    Regardless. It'll boil down to whether or not people buy and if its fiscally not worth it or its too much of a burden it simply won't sell.

    I'd love to see this on fleet vehicles and rentals.

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    Even if they got the price all the way down to 35,000 it still wouldn't be worth it. The price would need to be around 25k for it to be a logical move. Spending 250 monthly to save 200 monthly is the kind of I expect my winter texans to buy into.
    It really depends on your electric rates, but even at high rates, an electric car is several factors more efficient than gasoline. Instead of 10 cents per mile with a reasonable car mileage, an electric car costs at the most 3 cents a mile. I think the Tesla costs 2 cents a mile at California electricity rates.

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    Driving to the coast using less than 1 gallon blows my mind.

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    the article does have a pic that says "fuel cell" in it, but then the article says "Internal combustion engine also. Is there a mistake in the article, or a misleading pic?
    Misleading pic. That is a video for a different car using a fuel cell that they were field testing.

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    Yeah, but believe it or not, for teh good liberals, not everything is about monetarily breaking even.
    It's too bad those "good liberals" try to push that mentality on everyone else.

    Shazam!

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    If they can make it work and affordable the concept of the volt will be the future of the auto industry. When GM decided to bet it's future on the concept many said it would break the company, it did. It will be interesting to see what happens now that the government owns GM. I certainly won't be the first in line to buy one.

    Here's a 2008 article if your interested...
    http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200807/general-motors

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    The question is can they come up with a battery that will deliver enough power to make this concept appealing to consumers.

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    It could get a third of what they promised and still be a game changer.

    That number seems about in line with that of other plug in EV's; mainly the Aptera. And I don't know, if the Tesla's getting 150+ MPG from their Roadster then I'd believe that some slow ass Chevy could conceivably add another 100 to that.
    Errr. the Tesla ONLY has batteries - Gallon of What, exactly?

    Also, getting 250 mpg is great, but that's AFTER the battery has been charged by household current -

    It's a big deal, but it's also hype.

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    The question is can they come up with a battery that will deliver enough power to make this concept appealing to consumers.
    The Volt has an engine that comes on to recharge the battery; making this issue less of an issue.

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    "It could get a third of what they promised and still be a game changer. "

    Cars like Jetta Diesel TDI are already in the 65 - 70 MPG highway, without the complexity of electric motor, batteries, etc. But, no games changed.

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    Is it just me, or do most Americans NOT want to drive a giant suppository, powered by a sewing machine?

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