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    agree as for the iverson and randolph part...but its not like there where no better options here and there...but I like seeing at least one team beeing build with an idea in mind...most if the teams are lookig like drafted by the PS3 or via a rating list

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    agree as for the iverson and randolph part...but its not like there where no better options here and there...but I like seeing at least one team beeing build with an idea in mind...most if the teams are lookig like drafted by the PS3 or via a rating list
    I agree. Dwight Howard surrounded by no shooters sucked.

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    Pacers:
    its a little to much scoring and not enought rebounding and so on...Carter and Kobe need the ball in their hands, so where does it leave Nash...ould be fun to watch the team though! I'd like to do a deal for Diaw...aybe involving Shaq (but not straight up). So let me know!
    Believe me, this isn't going to be a soft team by the end of the draft.

    And Nash will be leading the fast break with Kobe and Carter on the wings.
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    Believe me, this isn't going to be a soft team by the end of the draft.

    And Nash will be leading the fast break with Kobe and Carter on the wings.
    How are Kobe and Carter going to play together? Both of them are SGs.

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    How are Kobe and Carter going to play together? Both of them are SGs.
    no problem with that...SG? SF?who cares...both are athletic!

    Believe me, this isn't going to be a soft team by the end of the draft.

    And Nash will be leading the fast break with Kobe and Carter on the wings.
    what is it orth if your benchplayer are hard nosed while playing like 25 minutes alltogether?

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    How are Kobe and Carter going to play together? Both of them are SGs.
    Carter at SF

    If this becomes a big issue I will restructure the team after the simulation. For now it's fine. I definitely have the firepower to make some trades happen

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    no problem with that...SG? SF?who cares...both are athletic!



    what is it orth if your benchplayer are hard nosed while playing like 25 minutes alltogether?
    Average age of Kobe, Carter and Nash is 33. According to the original rules to draft for now and the future, this team's big three would not last long together.

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    Average age of Kobe, Carter and Nash is 33. According to the original rules to draft for now and the future, this team's big three would not last long together.
    Like in the NBA, young players have become totally overrated in this draft, especially young players that haven't even produced yet. This team is a contender to win 3 les in a row, I'll take it. As far as the future goes, I'm not capable of seeing past the 3rd le. Don't think I'd want to either

    And every other player will be around for awhile

    Like I said, if this becomes too problematic I will make some trades happen after the simulation. If I'm stuck at least I'm stuck in a good situation

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    Basically you cant fail with building around LeBron, even if every pick is autopicked and every single time the others try to skrew you. overall I think they need. a little bit to much offense with martin, lewis and mo in the starting lineup. I'm not interested in any of hi players (at least not the ones that should be available)
    Agree, your never going to suck with LeBron, but it isn't easy to build a winner around him.

    Obviously, drafting Lewis & Martin, was to surround LeBron with shooters, imagine the looks these guys would get with LeBron. I love the LeBron/Lewis match up nightmare it would cause opponents, add Martin to the mix and the offence is unstopable. With Mo Williams, Prince, Battier it's raining 3's all night. Probably need some inside presence at the offensive end but plenty of penetration & shooting. Neither Oden or K.Love (My 8th Pick) really provide the threat I need, but I'd envision using LeBron in the post.

    On the defensive end, I was getting a little worried early on, but with Battier & Prince the team is capable of really shutting opponents down. If Oden realises his potential, and with Kevin Love on the boards, this team could be very scary on the defensive end. It lacks a little speed, to keep up with Harris' and Parker's of the league, but plenty of length and defensive savy.

    Intangibles: No doubt, LeBron is the star. The remainder of the team are built to maximise his skill-set. It's a good team today, but the future is even brighter, all players share the same window, and guys like Battier & Prince (the eldest players on the team) are the type of veteren glue guys who would fit the bill perfect when the remainder of the team hits it's peak. I also think I've left needs that can be addressed in the last 4 rounds of the draft.

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    Like in the NBA, young players have become totally overrated in this draft, especially young players that haven't even produced yet. This team is a contender to win 3 les in a row, I'll take it

    And every other player will be around for awhile

    Like I said, if this becomes too problematic I will make some trades happen after the simulation. If I'm stuck at least I'm stuck in a good situation
    I love my young players who have produced though. Thanks a lot. But I would appreciate it if I could get Carter or Kobe.

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    I love my young players who have produced though. Thanks a lot. But I would appreciate it if I could get Carter or Kobe.
    Everyone is on the table after the simulation. A total overhaul afterwards is likely (especially if we're going to have a popularity contest), unless we're also committing these teams to a fantasy roster.

    On your team I'm interested in most of those guys: Chauncey, Millsap, Gordon, Beasley. I especially like the Millsap/Beasley combo but chose to stay away from it for now.

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    I am also particularly interested in Joe Johnson and Dwyane Wade. But mudyez would not give up his superstar as he is the only SG he has on his team.

    Some Barbosa stats for people who think he sucks.

    He is my super sixth man. Averaging 24.4 minutes in Pheonix last season, he averaged 14.2 points in 24.4 minutes which is a lot. He also averages 1.2 steals and has a 48.2% field goal percentage which is really efficient. His playmaking may suck, but that is not what he is in the team for.

    Beasley is also my 6th man deluxe type of guy. When he gets his deserved minutes, he produces. Getting his 13.9 points in 24.8 minutes with Wade having a high usage rate, Beasley stepped up for the Heat and played off the bench partly due to his poor defense which Erik Spoelstra has been working with him for. He got his increased minutes towards the end of the season and played well towards the end. Getting more minutes (30 and above) lead to Beasley having a higher FG% at 50.7% instead of 47.2% and to average about 17 points when he plays more than 30 minutes. As a tweener, the Heat will look to play Beasley more at SF. If I am unable to move either Millsap or Beasley, he would be playing backup SF minutes and some at 3rd string PF.

    Paul Millsap is a power forward who is extremely good rebounder and scorer when he needs to. Getting 19 straight doubles doubles and being a Carlos Boozer replacement when Boozer was "out", he gained recognition throughout the league for being a capable starting PF and has the Jazz looking for trade proposals for Boozer in this off-season.

    Eric Gordon is my young stud who has the ability to be the next Ben Gordon, somehow they have the same surname. However, Eric Gordon has higher potential than Ben because of his body at a 6 foot 9 wingspan. I just looked that up. Freaking gay. His no step vertical is 32 inches but his max vertical is 40 inches. His athletic ability is outstanding. An explosive combo guard who scores 16.1 PPG if Baron Davis, Zach Randolph and ballhog Al Thornton on your team is indeed impressive while getting 11.6 FGAs per game. This was with a poor start to the season which he quickly adjusted to while playing beside selfish teammates while being the only bright light on the team.
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    I am also particularly interested in Joe Johnson and Dwyane Wade. But mudyez would not give up his superstar as he is the only SG he has on his team.
    the SG issue is no problem s I could draft some...but its hard to get Wade if you only package 3rd and 4th rounders!

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    the SG issue is no problem s I could draft some...but its hard to get Wade if you only package 3rd and 4th rounders!
    Maybe we can work something out for Nene after the sim. I have tons of SGs to spare.

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    Everyone is on the table after the simulation. A total overhaul afterwards is likely (especially if we're going to have a popularity contest), unless we're also committing these teams to a fantasy roster.

    On your team I'm interested in most of those guys: Chauncey, Millsap, Gordon, Beasley. I especially like the Millsap/Beasley combo but chose to stay away from it for now.
    what do you want for diaw?

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    On the defensive end, I was getting a little worried early on, but with Battier & Prince the team is capable of really shutting opponents down. If Oden realises his potential, and with Kevin Love on the boards, this team could be very scary on the defensive end. It lacks a little speed, to keep up with Harris' and Parker's of the league, but plenty of length and defensive savy.
    prince and battier are the backups to lebron and marti, arent they? so your playing these two about 20 minutes in order to make prince and battier having an impact on defense?

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    what do you want for diaw?
    I would be thrilled to have either Millsap or Beasley on my team (or both!) whether we do this by vote/sim/fantasy or all of the above!

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    I'm surprised someone took an interest in Boris Diaw, I thought he was one of the most underrated players in the league last season. Even in Phoenix I always saw the potential in him. He won't win me the popularity contest but I'm just glad to have him. Poor man's Odom for sure.

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    Maybe we can work something out for Nene after the sim. I have tons of SGs to spare.
    tons?

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    tons?

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    That can work. We'll talk about this after the sim. If he's simming 12 minute quarters I need instant firepower off the bench which was why I drafted Salmons.

    When it gets down to vote I will opt to trade him. I already have enough offense.

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    the SG issue is no problem s I could draft some...but its hard to get Wade if you only package 3rd and 4th rounders!
    Sorry about that. Hard to give up my big guns.

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    Everyone is on the table after the simulation. A total overhaul afterwards is likely (especially if we're going to have a popularity contest), unless we're also committing these teams to a fantasy roster.

    On your team I'm interested in most of those guys: Chauncey, Millsap, Gordon, Beasley. I especially like the Millsap/Beasley combo but chose to stay away from it for now.
    You were like PAUL MILLSAP in the chat room but I went like "too bad he is mine". Can't give up my veteran Billups now, I don't even have another PG that can shoot the rock. Eric Gordon can fill in the minutes but he is not a pure PG.

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    That can work. We'll talk about this after the sim. If he's simming 12 minute quarters I need instant firepower off the bench which was why I drafted Salmons.

    When it gets down to vote I will opt to trade him. I already have enough offense.
    dont see me trading nene for salmons....could have gotten him for more than once now!

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    When Rogue got Bargnani, I was like damn. I wanted the guy. But I just realised the Bargnani-Bosh epic fail frontcourt combo and was like, forget it.

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    Sorry about that. Hard to give up my big guns.
    so you will understand, that I wont trade Wade until some other star is involved! He usually is a top4 pick in this draft...while thinking about it...if it doesnt involve kobe, lebron, cp3, howard, TD, Ming or Dirk there will be no Wade trade!

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