Spurstalk Fantasy Draft Rosters

[mudyez]

same with me...

...my team is not that great coz of good players but you you have to know this: I'm running a great offensive system (think triangle offense but better...I call it "pentagon") and on the other end I'm also running something like the defensive concept of the spurs or 04pistons (also better coz there is that new trick wich makes rotations go way faster...also hard to explain...we call it "year 3000 defense" coz its something that we got from aliens, which told us, that the wold will be ready for it in about 991 years)....its pretty hard to understand, but the players know it to perfection, therefore stopping whoever wants to score...its made to stop Kobe, as it does LeBron and Howard.

after all I have PJ which build the Spurs systems!!!


give me the le!


NOW!

[VivaPopovich]

I don't agree with the idea that the remaining picks are totally insignificant, especially if you really do want a team for "now and the future" the bench is pivotal. Bench players eventually transition to becoming star players, or at least that's how Red did it. Big Nate and Salmons are spark plugs off the bench for me and would take on more dominant roles as my big 3 become older.

Two other keys for having a bench is limiting playing time during the regular season (crucial if you have older players, not like you want to play young players to death anyways) and being able to play with different lineups. With Odom and Diaw I can run and gun or stick them at the 3 and play half court sets. Another advantage is being able to make trades knowing you still have firepower on the bench. A good bench is also insurance against injuries.

Anyone that thinks the next picks don't matter I'm more than willing to autopick for you. Hope you like Cobe Karl

[mudyez]

future? after the sim I will have forgotten quickly!

regular season? there is no regular season!

lineups? the game isnt like: uh, Z cant guard D12 and Turk is bigger than West! its about overall and not matchups as much as I hate that! Some with styles.

making trades? I agree on that one! all the players I will pick the next 4 rounds are up for grabs...you have to know, that they are very important!

I will appreaciate picking guys that suit my team, maybe even doing trades. Its not that I'm not looking forward to it. But if all is said and done, it wont make much of a difference, if I get Cobe Karl or say Jordan Farmer, as none of them will get a minute of on court time.

BTW.: Puch!!! Will be some work to set up the rosters, rotations and the style of the team/coach...can we pm them to you after the last round? Can we change rototons and so on depending on the opponent?

sorry, for beeing the asshole here. I'm happy you appreciate it and I like doing it. I actually like ou all! It just feels weird beeing caught between nba2k and real life, seeing teams building for the future, while there isnt a future involved, seeing teams telling their coach will make the difference, while it doesnt matter as long as you are not inteterested in seeing the animation of Phill or Pop, seeing teams building teams that make sense, when the in game simulation doesnt make that much sense at all.

I think nba2k is a way to do it, but not the best way, coz of the mentioned reasons. Maybe I will hold another draft later which does it a different way (or maybe we are doing that twist thing!!!).

final conclusion: I think most if not all of our teams are that good that the offense-, defense-, overall- meter will be extremely high...its natural if you only take the better half of all the available players! Bostons real team has 9/9/9, so nearly every of our teams should have something in the range of 8/8/8! for that reason the difference will be very slightly...BTW.: I THINK THE WHOLE SIMULATION IS ONLY BASED ON THESE RATINGS!!!therefore its more like a lottery and no one will see his work really beeing mirrored by the game.

I know its more than the game, but that is exactely where I have the problem with...I just dont get sucked into getting certain players....if marion isnt there, I'll take Green, if Green isnt there, I'll go for Salmons and so on. I just doesnt really matter.

[Chieflion]

Although, 2k9 has Big Al has a PF, in reality, he is the Wolves C. He may not be that effective at guarding opposing Cs at the moment, but he's only 24, so he's got plenty of time to learn. In sayin that, he is my C and a true one if u watch his game and examine his skillset. I suggest we put up our startin 5, with positions marked, after we finish everything or we could now. I got brad miller becuz of his passing and shooting ability, allowing him with my other 2 bigs to be mixed and matched. True, his D is pretty weak, but like I said b4 my teams D is not predicated on any one player (much like the actual spurs) and instead on team defensive concept. Now, do I think Big Al is as good defensively as Duncan- NO! but do I think he could be one day esp if he played on a defensive minded team like the Spurs, maybe.

I drafted nelson cuz I wanted a speedy guard with excellent shooting ability and can easily penetrate any defense and I drafted Crawford as my 6th man, combo guard. We all still have 5 rds to go to c who's team is really the best, so once again good luck to all.

In reality, Al Jefferson is still a PF because of the sucky Wolves centers and that Kevin Love is also a PF.

[mudyez]

In reality, Al Jefferson is still a PF because of the sucky Wolves centers and that Kevin Love is also a PF.

I like l as a center, but you have to admit that he had problems offensively as defensively against bigger players...guys like haywood get him eve though the are way less talented than him.

hopefully he matures into a true center though.

[Pucho!!!]

In reality, Al Jefferson is still a PF because of the sucky Wolves centers and that Kevin Love is also a PF.

ok, that doesn't make much sense, but here's sumthing that does. Go to the team website and u can c that he's listed as C/F, not the other way around. From what I've seen of his game, he plays pretty close to the basket much like a C. He's still 24, and u guys underrate him. He had 34 pts 22 reb and 4 stls vs the rockets this past season. That's against the rockets startin and backup bigmen (and yes Yao played-he played 36 min, about as many min as Big Al (38 min)) . He avg 23pts and 11 reb as a C. I think the wolves havin sucky Cs is more a testament to their confidence in Jefferson doin a good job. I still think there's plenty of room for him to improve and at only 24, he's got tons of upside.

[mudyez]

way to much importance to positions: lets say there are insideplayers, wings and pointguards...and you always try to get different types (it doesnt make sinse if you only have guys like muphy inside or elonte wests on the wings)...after all every player that falls out of position just means, there will be a mismatch for both teams (at least most of the times).

as long as the on court balance is ok, it doesnt matter if its a C or a PF...and the optimal balance has switched to more mobile PF's and even Centers anyway in the last 10 years.

[Chieflion]

way to much importance to positions: lets say there are insideplayers, wings and pointguards...and you always try to get different types (it doesnt make sinse if you only have guys like muphy inside or elonte wests on the wings)...after all every player that falls out of position just means, there will be a mismatch for both teams (at least most of the times).

as long as the on court balance is ok, it doesnt matter if its a C or a PF...and the optimal balance has switched to more mobile PF's and even Centers anyway in the last 10 years.

You can't do that. First, guys like Murphy don't really play the inside. My backup PFs are more or less undersized, albeit way faster than most PFs. The last thing I need is another one of those guys. Everyone needs a good enforcer for a back up center.

[mudyez]

You can't do that. First, guys like Murphy don't really play the inside. My backup PFs are more or less undersized, albeit way faster than most PFs. The last thing I need is another one of those guys. Everyone needs a good enforcer for a back up center.

as I said: you try to have differnt types...murphy alone wont do it, but for like 10 minutes per games as smallball to pull e.g. shaq to the outside, its a nice idea, two real C's on the court together will work to for several minutes as you can cloak the lane and get every rebound...I'm just against all this "he is a SF and not a SG stuff...to a certain degree it doesnt matter at all (me as a coach isnt caring a lot about this type of stuff....I want do get rebounds, handle the ball, score and defend...if I have lockdown defenders on the berimeter, I dont need the shotblocker as much and if I have shooters, I might add some rebounding...if the SG or the C gets the rebound doesnt matter at all)

[sa_kid20]

I updated our rosters to this point in NBA 2K9 and ran a few simulations. Pretty interesting stuff.

[mudyez]

I updated our rosters to this point in NBA 2K9 and ran a few simulations. Pretty interesting stuff.

thought about that too...only created my team (couldnt find andre miller...not on FA's, 76er nor POR) but he has to be in(I know he is)...so I know my ratings and my weakness...but I dont know if it matters at all (as I said, I cant see really good team inning it always or weak teams having a good chance making ist)

just one question: was there one team (dont need to tell which) that really stood out and won often?

[sa_kid20]

thought about that too...only created my team (couldnt find andrea miller...not on FA's, 76er no POR)...so I know my ratings and my weakness...but I dont know if it matters at all (as I said, I cant see really good team inning it always or weak teams having a good chance making ist)

just one question: was there one team (dont need to tell which) that really stood out and won often?

Actually there were 2 teams that were clearly better than the rest. One team that was good but not as good as those two and about 4 teams that really didn't do much. Everyone else was about average.

[mudyez]

that surprises me...maybe our teams matter actually

[VivaPopovich]

Actually there were 2 teams that were clearly better than the rest. One team that was good but not as good as those two and about 4 teams that really didn't do much. Everyone else was about average.

Which ones protector of secrets

[sa_kid20]

that surprises me...maybe our teams matter actually

Well we still need 5 more rounds which could really change things a lot IMO but yeah i was kinda surprised that there were a few times that really stood out over the others.

[mudyez]

Which ones protector of secrets

if he tells us, there might be teams pulling out/losing interest, coz they know they suck!

[Chieflion]

Actually there were 2 teams that were clearly better than the rest. One team that was good but not as good as those two and about 4 teams that really didn't do much. Everyone else was about average.

I know my team is a piece of on nba 2k9. Mine should be one of the four teams.

[mudyez]

my bet:

2 tops are pacers and spurs

not sure about the third team...maybe Warriors or Wizards...lets say wizz

and the bottom 4 are (not offense! its just a guess): Magic, Bulls, Kings and (not so sure on that one) maybe really the Cavs

maybe its even me, who sucks big time...but I would guess I'm in the middle of the pack.

[Chieflion]

Any team with LeBron would finish first. Bah. Real life is better than video fail games.

[Chieflion]

If we are doing the twist draft, I need 5 judges. Since I am unable to show up on weekdays in the morning, (America's night), I will need another person who will be able to co-organise it and 5 people to judge. (Organisers can be judges too.)

[Chieflion]

11 hours and 58 minutes to Wizards pick round 9.

[mudyez]

just went through all the names I like and now I'm kind of excited in the end!

still looking to do trades....Especially Shaq, Parker and Jamison are on the block. Marion for a fair price too!

[Chieflion]

just went through all the names I like and now I'm kind of excited in the end!

still looking to do trades....Especially Shaq, Parker and Jamison are on the block. Marion for a fair price too!

Won't let you have your way. Name me Shaq's price.

[Brazil]

I know my team is a piece of on nba 2k9. Mine should be one of the four teams.

dpg after the first round said cavs did well on 2k9 with spurs hawks and warriors something like that.

whatever 2k9 sucks, arenas>bosh and iggy

[Chieflion]

dpg after the first round said cavs did well on 2k9 with spurs hawks and warriors something like that.

whatever 2k9 sucks, arenas>bosh and iggy

Really? Woohoo. Guess fit works well on 2k9 after all. Until Arenas proves he is back at 2006 form, he can jolly well go eat .