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    LOL, you guys sound like the cigarette companies. Good luck with that.
    I was just making a joke, idk what you and 21_blessings are arguing about.

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    If you need to test weed to know if s up your body, then your problem is not the weed, that's for sure.
    End of discussion.
    Heh yeah, science man. You sound like a creationist.

    Some people think weed is perfectly healthy for you and does no harm, I dont.
    Some people think weed makes you crazy, an addict and has no benefit. Yet thousands of doctors prescribe it every day to treat their patients for a variety of ailments.

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    No argument coming from me. Some people think weed is perfectly healthy for you and does no harm, I dont.

    I agree there. Cigarettes do harm to you, and so does weed.

    I stopped smoking weed when I got fat and realized weed had ed up my health and I needed to get in better physical shape.

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    But as far as your mental sanity and mental health, I don't think weed has any long term effects. Short term effects obviously.

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    Weed is almost as harmful as the Gays right lakaluva?

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    Who still remembers this lol

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    No sir. Gays are much worse.
    All we can hope is they stay away from our hetero children right? Oh and don't even think about looking at our junk.

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    No, the problem lies within the heteros. Haven't you learned anything from my lectures? Or are you are you just completely stupid?
    I honestly don't pay attention when you lecture.

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    Well, why did you bring up one subject of one of my most famous seminars on this site?
    Because I like starting with phobes.

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    this explains his behavior. or he is truly stupid
    your ing re ed. you honestly think marijuana is the reason for his behavior...

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    Marijuana, when used irresponsibly can be harmful. Not in the way Lakaluva would have you believe. The short-term affects are well do ented; lethargy, possible weight gain, possible short-term memory impairment. However, it's nothing long term. You certainly don't destroy mind after smoking it, and it's not going to give you cancer. Say what you want about marijuana, but more and more doctors are prescribing it for their patients every day for all sorts of different conditions. People who act stupid after smoking a lot probably didn't need it to act that way in the first place.

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    I know that, personally, the use of my medically prescribed marijuana has made me infinitely better at the Skee Ball game in the arcade.

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    I know that, personally, the use of my medically prescribed marijuana has made me infinitely better at the Skee Ball game in the arcade.

    I know what you mean......weed + 2-3 beers and I'm unstoppable at beer pong.

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    What are the long-term effects? And what is a responsible way of using an herb/drug that damages the immune system of both people and animals and impairs the ability of T-cells in the lungs immune defense system to fight off infections? I'm just curious...
    Myth: Marijuana Use Impairs the Immune System. Marijuana users are at increased risk of infection, including HIV. AIDS patients are particularly vulnerable to marijuana's immunopathic effects because their immune systems are already suppressed.

    Fact: There is no evidence that marijuana users are more susceptible to infections than nonusers. Nor is there evidence that marijuana lowers users' resistance to sexually transmitted diseases. Early studies which showed decreased immune function in cells taken from marijuana users have since been disproved. Animals given extremely large doses of THC and exposed to a virus have higher rates of infection. Such studies have little relevance to humans. Even among people with existing immune disorders, such as AIDS, marijuana use appears to be relatively safe. However, the recent finding of an association between tobacco smoking and lung infection in AIDS patients warrants further research into possible harm from marijuana smoking in immune suppressed persons.

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    Parents Resource Ins ute for Drug Education. Marijuana and Cocaine. Atlanta: PRIDE, 1990.

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    Preate, Ernest D. Blowing Away the Marijuana Smokescreen. Scranton: Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General, [no date]: 2.

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    Spence, W.R. Marijuana: Its Effects and Hazards. Waco: Health Edco, [no date].

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    Voth, Eric A. The International Drug Strategy Ins ute Position Paper on the Medical Applications of Marijuana. Omaha: Drug Watch International, [no date].

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    Drug Watch International. By Any Modern Medical Standard, Marijuana is No Medicine. Omaha: Drug Watch International, [no date].

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    What are the long-term effects? And what is a responsible way of using an herb/drug that damages the immune system of both people and animals and impairs the ability of T-cells in the lungs immune defense system to fight off infections? I'm just curious...
    There is some evidence from human studies that long-term marijuana use
    can have adverse effects, although it seems that the spectrum of these
    effects is narrower than previously thought and mainly centres around
    cognitive (intellectual) function.

    A paper in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) vol.
    287 No. 9, March 6, 2002, pp. 1123-1131) found that long-term cannabis
    users performed less well than shorter-term users and controls (people
    who didn’t use cannabis) in tests of memory and attention. The
    long-term users averaged 23.9 years of use, compared with 10.2 years
    in the shorter-term users. You can find an abstract at the American
    Medical Association web site:
    http://jama.ama-assn.org/issues/v287.../joc11416.html , but access
    to the full text requires subscription to the journal. Note that the
    comments associated with the article (links to them are underneath the
    abstract) indicate that some other investigators do not agree with
    this conclusion.

    Another study published in a Canadian medical journal (CMAJ 2002 Apr
    2;166(7):887-91 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract)
    found that: “Current marijuana use had a negative effect on global IQ
    score only in subjects who smoked 5 or more joints per week. A
    negative effect was not observed among subjects who had previously
    been heavy users but were no longer using the substance. We conclude
    that marijuana does not have a long-term negative impact on global
    intelligence.” This study compared IQ scores of individuals aged 9-12
    years before they started using cannabis, with their scores at 17-20
    years. Light users, former users and non-users showed a gain in IQ
    over the same period.

    One reason for the decreased IQ and memory in consistent heavy users
    could be the fact that long-term cannabis use has been found to
    decrease blood flow to the front areas of the brain (Neurotoxicology
    and Teratology 2001 Sep-Oct; vol 23 pp. 437-43 Frontal lobe
    dysfunction in long-term cannabis users by Lundqvist T, Jonsson S,
    Warkentin S. of the Division of Medical Neurochemistry, Lund
    University Hospital, 221 85, Lund, Sweden
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

    A study published in Public Health and Nutrition, June 2001, vol. 4
    pp. 781-786 (Dietary intake and nutritional status of US adult
    marijuana users: results from the Third National Health and Nutrition
    Examination Survey. By Smit E, Crespo CJ. of the Department of Social
    and Preventive Medicine, SUNY School of Medicine, University at
    Buffalo, Buffalo, NY 14214, USA.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract
    ) found that marijuana users have lower levels of carotenoids in the
    serum. The authors concluded this was associated with different
    dietary habits: “We found higher cigarette-smoking rates and higher
    consumption of sodas and alcohol, specifically beer, among marijuana
    users than among non-current marijuana users. Marijuana users also
    consumed more sodium, fewer fruits, and more pork, cheese, and salty
    snacks.” Carotenoids are important anti-oxidants which help to
    prevent cancer and other diseases. An increased risk of these
    diseases might be due not so much to marijuana use itself as to the
    lifestyle led by many who use it. Better attention to nutrition, in
    order to ensure a good intake of fresh fruit and vegetables,
    particularly the red, yellow and orange ones, will help to boost
    antioxidant status (see below)

    A review of various studies came to the conclusion that: “Regular
    marijuana use can lead to extensive airway injury and alterations in
    the structure and function of alveolar macro es, potentially
    predisposing to pulmonary infection and respiratory cancer.” Alveolar
    macro es are cells in the lungs that help clear away debris and
    bacteria. (Current Opinions in Pulmonary Medicine, March 2001, vol 7
    pp 43-61, Airway effects of marijuana, cocaine, and other inhaled
    illicit agents. by Tashkin DP of the Division of Pulmonary and
    Critical Care Medicine, UCLA School of Medicine, Los Angeles,
    California 90095-1690
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract
    ) Again, to counteract these effects, a diet high in antioxidants
    would be helpful.

    Obviously, marijuana smoked as joints and mixed with tobacco could
    carry all the health risks associated with cigarette smoking. The use
    of marijuana alone might be implicated in cancer. However, one review
    concluded that: “While there is no doubt that marijuana smoke contains
    carcinogens, an increase in cancer among users has thus far been
    anecdotal. Because of the long latent period between cancer induction
    and initiation of cigarette smoking, the full story is yet to be
    told.” (International Journal of Neuropsychopharmacology, July 1998,
    vol. 1 pp 71-80, Health aspects of cannabis: revisited. by Hollister
    LE. of Harris County Psychiatric Center, University of Texas-Houston,
    Houston, TX http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract
    ) In support of this statement, I only found one recent paper in
    Medline describing a case of cancer in one marijuana user. This in
    itself is not absolute proof.

    L E Hollister also concluded that: “Many older concerns about adverse
    effects on health (chromosomal damage, 'cannabinol psychosis',
    endocrine abnormalities, cardiac events, impaired immunity) no longer
    seem to elicit much interest. Continuing concerns about the adverse
    cognitive effects of chronic use indicate that these can be
    demonstrated by proper testing; some studies suggest that they may be
    long-lasting. Although cannabis does not produce a specific psychosis,
    the possibility exists that it may exacerbate schizophrenia in persons
    predisposed to that disorder.” i.e. the effects tend to be more on
    brain function than on other diseases, and it could worsen the status
    of people who have a tendency to schizophrenia.

    I have not found anything specific about diet in relation to marijuana
    use. However, a diet rich in antioxidants will tend to counteract the
    effect of many toxins and thus would probably be helpful against the
    toxic effects of marijuana. This is a diet rich in fresh fruit and
    vegetables, with perhaps additional (although not extreme) intake of
    vitamins A, C and E. Red wine is also high in antioxidants and so
    is green tea.

    Search strategy: “marijuana AND long term” and “marijuana AND cancer”
    on Medline at http://nlm.nih.gov
    Marijuana AND diet, cannabis AND diet on Google and on Medline
    Antioxidant diet: from personal knowledge

    Taken from: Unknown Author, not me

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    I'm not getting into the good-bad debate, but I think we can all agree that he's a ing idiot for saying that to a reporter.

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    I didn't know it was against the rules to drive and smoke marijuana.

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    steph's the best!

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    If you need to test weed to know if s up your body, then your problem is not the weed, that's for sure. End of discussion.
    whatever...

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    What the are you 2 years old? You do know that smoking weed changes your behavior.
    dumb .

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    Just smelling weed smoke gets you high
    and here's why you're a in' dumb !

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    Doesn't take Nancy Drew to figure that out.

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    You must be a bud head, and I stepped all over your toes. It's late, shouldn't you be at Taco Bell?
    maybe you should cut back ... taco bell aint open sucker! plus i hate that smelly highschool joint. no pun intended.

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    If you need to test weed to know if s up your body, then your problem is not the weed, that's for sure. End of discussion.
    You're a ing re . I ing loathe people that know absolutely nothing about marijuana, but try get all chest out and about other people's choice to smoke it. Oh, but you know some guys who live by you right? You used Google right? That makes you some ing authority on the matter right?

    For the record, I'm bigger, faster, stronger and a whole of a lot smarter than you... and I've smoked weed multiple times daily for a decade.

    You have no clue what you're talking about. I don't know what your problem is or why you have it. What motivates you to go out of your way to condemn other people's personal decisions? Either shut the up, or change your opinions, because right now you look like a moron and a clown.

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    this thread just proves lakaluva is clueless on the subject

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