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    I just got an HDTV yesterday. I was just wondering, what's the best thing to do for an HDTV and DVDs. Is it a smart investment to go ahead and get a Blu Ray player? Or should I just go the cheaper route and get an upconversion dvd player?

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    here's the best solution... download those movies and save your money! blu-ray is a big-waste in my opinion as is buying dvd movies unless you're gonna just buy the discs to backup files on your computer.

    people are to concerned with clarity when in reality your eyes can't see clearly.

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    id say upconversion dvd player, netflix ftw

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    I just got an HDTV yesterday. I was just wondering, what's the best thing to do for an HDTV and DVDs. Is it a smart investment to go ahead and get a Blu Ray player? Or should I just go the cheaper route and get an upconversion dvd player?
    Depends on where you are financially. One thing I really like about blu-ray discs is that they are nearly skip-proof. I've had several DVDs become unplayable after very gentle usage, but I've never even had a hiccup with a blu-ray disc. They are said to have a superior coating which makes them much more resistant.

    Personally I enjoy blu-ray. However if you're watching on a TV that's 40 inches or less, it may be less noticeable in terms of detail.

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    if you have netflix and don't mind paying a bit extra, it's great. Blu-Ray players aren't that expensive anymore, and they usually upconvert anyway. Only problem is 720p rips of Blu-Rays look pretty good, and I prefer to go that way at this time.

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    Get the blu-ray. All of them upconvert DVDs and you'll get one eventually anyway.

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    The best all-around media choice is either a PS3 or an Xbox 360. Reason being is that they play games and can play media as well, and are designed to be connected to high definition displays, not only that but the price of a PS3 isn't that much more than a quality standalone Blu-Ray player.

    As far as what koriwhat said, he/she is totally wrong, you WILL notice the difference between 480i and 1080P unless you're a blind ing re .

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    Does the size of the tv have that much of an impact on the HD? The HDTV that I bought it only 32 inches and it's 720p but it's bigger than the previous I had which was only 26 inches. The tv was on sale for 379.99 and I got it at my work so I got 10 percent off too which was nice. I've heard both good and bad things about blu ray players. Some people have told me that certain blu ray players don't always play standard DVDs or even blu ray movies. And I've heard some say that the standard DVDs are slow sometimes on blu ray players.

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    Where do you work?

    For a set that size you'd have to be about six feet away to tell the difference, if you are any farther away it won't matter.
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    depends if you have 1080p

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    Does the size of the tv have that much of an impact on the HD? The HDTV that I bought it only 32 inches and it's 720p but it's bigger than the previous I had which was only 26 inches. The tv was on sale for 379.99 and I got it at my work so I got 10 percent off too which was nice. I've heard both good and bad things about blu ray players. Some people have told me that certain blu ray players don't always play standard DVDs or even blu ray movies. And I've heard some say that the standard DVDs are slow sometimes on blu ray players.
    In that case, I probably wouldn't recommend a blu ray for you unless you plan to upgrade your TV at some time in the future.

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    So blu ray players are only good with HDTVs that are 1080p? I asked some people at my work today that work in electronics about blu ray players. One said that an upconversion DVD player is a waste of money and another one said that a blu ray player is a waste of money. Can you not experience the blu ray experience on a 720p LCD HDTV?

    That Erica Hill pic is classic.

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    Where do you work?

    Certainly something is lost when watching Blu-Ray on that size set, but if you are sitting within six feet there is a difference.

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    I work at an amazing store called Target. Ever heard of it?

    I thought it was kind of bad to be up close when watching blu ray movies on a blu ray player because you can see all the stuff on the actors and actresses' faces. It seems like it would be better to be farther away. My couch is probably 6 or 7 feet from where the tv will be. The main reason why I asked this question is because I've seen standard DVD movies played on a regular DVD player on a 720p HDTV and they looked ty. However, a component cable was added I think and it made them look a little better. One of the reasons why I might go with a blu ray player is because there would no black bars. I don't mind black bars on fat ass old school tvs but on HDTVs, it annoys me. And the picture and sound are suppose to better on blu ray too but I'm not an expert on the matter. I also have a feeling that DVDs are probably gonna fade out in 5 years because blu ray movies are going to make them extinct just like DVDs made VHS extinct.

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    PS3 is one of the best, if not the best Blu-Ray player.

    Thanks to the IBM Roadrunner ship

    Plus, SOny invented the Blu-Ray, so...

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    You will still find black bars on Blu-Ray movies.

    So the reason I asked twice: Don't they have a Blu-Ray setup at Target?

    Look at it.

    Seriously, you don't have or want a PS3 or a 360?

    Where do you live man?

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    Blu Ray is really only great for 50" and higher displays.

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    Yeah, there is a Blu Ray setup at the Target where I work. I have an XBOX 360. I'm gonna have to get an HDMI cable for that. That sucks about the black bars. I have seen blu ray movies on tvs at Blockbuster without the black bars though. That's a bad thing about getting an HDTV. You have to buy all of these extra things for it.

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    Yeah, there is a Blu Ray setup at the Target where I work. I have an XBOX 360. I'm gonna have to get an HDMI cable for that. That sucks about the black bars. I have seen blu ray movies on tvs at Blockbuster without the black bars though. That's a bad thing about getting an HDTV. You have to buy all of these extra things for it.
    You can burn HD movies to Dual Layer disks or put them on a hard drive formatted HFS+ (I think).

    Not quite as nice as Blu-Ray but a lot cheaper, and certainly nice in its own right.

    What part of town do you live on?

    I helped my in-laws get an HDTV and it wound up being a Samsung 32 inch and HD programs from cable look great and HD movies from other sources look great as well.

    It kind of sucks if you have to buy things, but for me my 360 Elite came with an HDMI cable, and for short distances you probably won't notice the difference between a five dollar cable and a fifty dollar cable.

    Also for the record, the 360 will upconvert DVDs.

    I'd only get an upconverter if I had a big DVD collection, and even then I'd try to find the best one (Probably a Toshiba).

    Also, at the Target near me their setup for Blu-Ray is either a 32 inch or a 40 inch set so if you can find a similar setup it should be useful to you.
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    Can you not experience the blu ray experience on a 720p LCD HDTV?
    Not even close. 720p is barely better than the resolution that regular, non-upconverted DVD's will give you on a regular ol flatscreen tube.

    If I were you, I wouldn't even consider buying a Blu-Ray player unless you plan on using it to play video games.

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    Not even close. 720p is barely better than the resolution that regular, non-upconverted DVD's will give you on a regular ol flatscreen tube.

    If I were you, I wouldn't even consider buying a Blu-Ray player unless you plan on using it to play video games.
    What are you talking about?

    720p displays in a resolution of 1280x720, with progressive scan technology, meaning that the entire image is refreshed every frame.

    480i is standard TV, which is 640x480, and it's interlaced, which means that at points effectively half of that lower resolution is being passed through an even less-optimal filter to save bandwidth. So it's almost as bad as watching a display of 320x240 at times. Play games on an old 480i TV and you will see a massive difference, even with component cables.

    720p is a larger jump from 480p than 1080p is from 720p. 1080p is 1920x1080, which is roughly a 75% increase in detail and clarity from 720p. 480p to 720p is nearly 100% at it's worst, and at best is a 260% difference.

    Blu ray will look great on 720p. Not quite as good as 1080p, but still outstanding for movies. On a 32" display, I'd throw down money that you would not be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p unless you were less than 3 feet away from the screen, and maybe not even then.
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    720p is barely better
    720P is approximately 2.6 times higher resolution than 480P

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    720p is definitely better than 480i. It's fine for a anything up to a 37" tv IMO.

    There will be some movies that still show black bars on HDTVs, as they were filmed with an aspect ratio wider than 16:9, and of course old 3:2 programming will have vertical bars unless you choose to distort the picture to fill up the screen (I personally detest that).
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    here's the best solution... download those movies and save your money! blu-ray is a big-waste in my opinion as is buying dvd movies unless you're gonna just buy the discs to backup files on your computer.

    people are to concerned with clarity when in reality your eyes can't see clearly.
    Your eyes won't see a difference if you use AV cables on your Blu-ray player.

    I'll take 40+ inch 1080p HDTV over downloaded movies.

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