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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    In studying party platforms in presidential elections from 1944 to 1976, Pomper found that presidents converted about 70 percent of their party's promises into policy. He said that track record is "pretty good," considering that about half of U.S. marriages end in divorce--a broken vow.

    Jeff Fishel, a professor emeritus of government at American University, reached a similar conclusion in his study of presidential performance, published in the 1985 book Presidents & Promises. Fishel tracked campaign pledges from John F. Kennedy through Ronald Reagan and determined that presidents followed through about 66 percent of the time. He gave credit for effort, even when it didn't translate into signed legislation, as well as for actual achievements. Both Fishel and Pomper distinguish between specific proposals and rhetorical promises, such as "I will uphold American values," which can't be judged objectively.

    But,but,but Obama didn't keep his promises..you losers are a joke..

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    But,but,but Obama didn't keep his promises..you losers are a joke..
    The losers are those who thought his promises were achievable.

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    what i still can not understand is all the people who really believe that the platforms of the presidents over the past 45 years or so have really been that varied from president to president. differences in marginal issues hardly cons ute a politics of dichotomy.

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    what i still can not understand is all the people who really believe that the platforms of the presidents over the past 45 years or so have really been that varied from president to president. differences in marginal issues hardly cons ute a politics of dichotomy.
    Exactly. I'm pretty sure we can already figure out what the campaign promises are going to be in 2012.

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    Why is it that I constantly read liberals touting that "since your guy did it, then our guy should too"?


    It's very symbolic of how ing stupid the two party system is as well as how hypocritical all these ers are.

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    Scared? Not even close. I wanted to prove AGAIN what hypocrites you guys are. It's very easy to do..
    There's no hypocrisy on my part. How many times have I stated the president has no power to fulfill such promises? He has to get congress to act on nearly everything he wants before he can sign it into law. The more promises a candidate makes, the more he sets himself up for being known by his failures. President Obama will fall very hard!

    OK maybe not scared, why are you too lazy to link your source?

    I know. You didn't search for the originating source, but used one of the several blogs I found looking for the source.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    There's no hypocrisy on my part. How many times have I stated the president has no power to fulfill such promises? He has to get congress to act on nearly everything he wants before he can sign it into law. The more promises a candidate makes, the more he sets himself up for being known by his failures. President Obama will fall very hard!

    OK maybe not scared, why are you too lazy to link your source?

    I know. You didn't search for the originating source, but used one of the several blogs I found looking for the source.
    http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmag...80719_4480.php

    I don't need blogs..

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    Dumbass, there is a difference between a campaign promise and a lie. Look it up loser.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Dumbass, there is a difference between a campaign promise and a lie. Look it up loser.
    oh it's 'obama's the biggest liar in my 37 yrs sommerset'.... so now your ok with obama not living up to campaign promises. still waiting for all of those 'lies' jack..

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    So what you're saying is that you're cool with broken campaign promises because other Presidents did it too?

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    Obama failed on his promise to deliver his birth certificate. We had to go to Kenya to get it. White power.
    You're racist.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    So what you're saying is that you're cool with broken campaign promises because other Presidents did it too?
    I know that politicians stretch the truth. I don't criticize one side for doing it and remain silent when the other side does it as well. I know john, you actually believe everything that comes out of someone's mouth during a campaign..

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    No, you just copied my link. Otherwise, why did you stop with the 1944 to 1976 data when the article continued on to more recent times?

    Which blog did you use?

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    I know that politicians stretch the truth. I don't criticize one side for doing it and remain silent when the other side does it as well. I know john, you actually believe everything that comes out of someone's mouth during a campaign..
    I'm not claiming to believe or not believe anything, I'm just pointing out how often you specifically point out that since one side did it, then your side should too.

    You are a good example of what's wrong with our government in general.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    No, you just copied my link. Otherwise, why did you stop with the 1944 to 1976 data when the article continued on to more recent times?

    Which blog did you use?

    I don't need blogs. try googling the subject you may be surprised it's there.. I know it's a shocking coincedence!

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    But,but,but Obama didn't keep his promises..you losers are a joke..
    lol good try, but it was Obama and his supporters who told the rest of us he was a different politician.

    He ran on "not of Washington".

    He failed.

    Actually, he didn't fail. Barack Obama. The politician just went politician. It was those who believed he was anything special that failed.
    Last edited by SonOfAGun; 08-19-2009 at 04:07 PM.

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    I'm not claiming to believe or not believe anything, I'm just pointing out how often you specifically point out that since one side did it, then your side should too.

    You are a good example of what's wrong with our government in general.
    Thanks kettle


    sincerely

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    lol good try, but it was Obama and his supporters who told the rest of us he was a different politician.

    He ran on "not of Washington".

    He failed.
    3 1/2 more years. you fail..

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    oh it's 'obama's the biggest liar in my 37 yrs sommerset'.... so now your ok with obama not living up to campaign promises. still waiting for all of those 'lies' jack..
    I'll give you yet another one. Concentrate this time. Count the times he says "on CSPAN". Try your best. Before you hit play go clean out ur ears. Ask yourself after watching is this a campaign promise or a lie. Keep in mind he has been president 7 months.Campaign is over.


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    Thanks kettle


    sincerely

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    By all means, please point to a time on this site where I've bashed a democrats idea just for being a democrat. Or better yet, please point to a time where I've claimed that republicans should be dishonest because their counterparts did the same thing.



    I'll save you the time, you can't, because I haven't.

    YOU SPECIFICALLY, GGA, YOU ARE A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE OF THE PROBLEMS IN AMERICAN POLITICS.

    Face it, you have no solutions, just a home team and you'll back them no matter what. Have a hypocritical day

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    I don't need blogs. try googling the subject you may be surprised it's there.. I know it's a shocking coincedence!
    I did google a phrase and found the original link, posted that link in post #3. You copied the same link I already posted. I'm accusing you of just lifting those two paragraphs from a blog, forum, etc. Otherwise, for our discussion here, why those two paragraphs only?

    Next time, post the link for your source please.

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