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    Should the Spurs Be Shopping Tony Parker?

    The San Antonio Spurs have made quite a few moves to improve their ball club this off-season. From trading for Richard Jefferson to drafting DeJaun Blair, who seemed to be a lottery talent, in the second round of the 2009 NBA Draft, the Spurs front office is clearly making a push for a final le with Tim Duncan as the team leader.

    However, adding Jefferson put the Spurs in a position they are not accustom to. Normally, the Spurs ran their franchise around three eight-figure contract guys, which has been Tony Parker, Manu Ginobli and Duncan over the past few years, and surrounded them with lesser cost players that worked hard - making the DeJuan Blair pick that much more meaningful and brilliant. Jefferson comes to San Antonio with a $14.2 million contract. That ranks second on the team, behind Tim Duncan’s $22.2 million deal, and in front of Tony Parker’s $12.6 million contract and Manu Ginobli’s $10.7 million paycheck. San Antonio will start this season with a $78,296,230 payroll, compared to $68,118,085 from last year. Looking at those numbers alone, I would have to assume that a team that has used the same formula for the last decade would trade off one of their more expensive players to get back to three players that make over $10 million.

    To get this out of the way, the Spurs won’t trade Tim Duncan and it would be dumb for them to trade Jefferson again this season, so that narrows it down to two guys.

    Of the four players that have big contracts, the first player the Spurs would look to deal would be Manu Ginobli. Ginobli is 32 years old and has a horrendous injury history, so it’s logical that the team would want to get rid of him even if they didn’t trade for Jefferson. Manu will be a free agent next season, so this is a good chance for the Spurs to get something back for him just in case they don’t plan on extending him. However, for the same reason, other teams may shy away from giving the Spurs something for a 32-year old that seems to care more about his country than his NBA team when they could get him as a free agent next year if they really wanted him.

    And yes, that leaves Tony Parker, the 27 year old french man that seemingly burst on to the seen last season as an elite point guard in the NBA. After averaging 22 points and seven assists last season, Parker’s value will never be higher and the Spurs have a chance to turn one star player into a couple, while freeing up cap space. When looking at other teams in the league that could offer a young star point guard for Parker, a few come to mind. Devin Harris of the Nets was my initial thought, but that wouldn’t make much sense because in all honesty, I’d take Harris over Parker if I were starting a team today. However, my second idea was a little better.

    Who says no to this?

    Tony Parker and Ian Mahinmi to the Boston Celtics for Rajon Rondo, Brian Scalabrine, Bill Walker and Kendrick Perkins

    The Celtics get a great point guard with championship experience as well as a young center that can develop as a back-up to Rasheed Wallace, while the Spurs get a younger point guard who has amazing potential and plays with championship experience (Oh, and he makes $10 million less) and a strong rebounding center that can handle guys like Andrew Bynum and Dwight Howard come playoff time. Bill Walker and Brian Scalabrine were both throw-ins to get the money to measure out, but putting Matt Bonner on the same team as Scalabrine is an added benefit of this deal.

    With the Celtics having off-season issues with Rondo, with rumors of him being dealt to Detroit coming from incidents between Rajon and Doc Rivers and the Spurs irking Tony Parker when they told him to come home from his international completion, it seems like the right time for this swap of all-star caliber point guards. Also, if this deal was completed, it would put the Spurs back at the usual $68,164,231 payroll.
    What do you guys think, should we get rid of one of the best PGs in the league and a stellar prospect C for a (supposed) head case and Perkins?

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    No, they shouldn't be shopping Tony Parker.

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    That might happen next, next season but not this season, the idea for this season was to go with a four headed (4 1/2 Blair?) monster to compete with the other handful of stacked teams in the league.

    BUT, if that doesn't work you might see something different, and much cheaper the year after.

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    lol Lakers fans.

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    Manu has a "horrendus injury history" for being banged up the last two seasons?

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    Link for the blog in your OP:
    http://butthegameison.com/blog/12174...g-tony-parker/

    The blogger in question believes that if the Spurs trade two players that make a combined $13.6M for four players that make a combined $11M the result will be a $10M reduction in payroll. On a positive note, his math skills exceed his abilities to analyze NBA basketball.

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    No ing way

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    lol lakers fans.
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    we have george hill he is the future i bet

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    if the spurs shop tony parker, then there screwed. hes a top 5 point guard in the league and it probably the number 1 scoring pg in the league. it would be stupid to trade him. he is unguardable. the only way to stop him, is if he misses his own jump shots. hes not even in his prime yet and he is a veteran in our system. it would be stupid to trade him. and this thread is stupid too. stop wit the TP trades.

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    fvck

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    this article is terrible ...

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    Normally, the Spurs ran their franchise around three eight-figure contract guys, which has been Tony Parker, Manu Ginobli and Duncan over the past few years, and surrounded them with lesser cost players that worked hard - making the DeJuan Blair pick that much more meaningful and brilliant. Jefferson comes to San Antonio with a $14.2 million contract. That ranks second on the team, behind Tim Duncan’s $22.2 million deal, and in front of Tony Parker’s $12.6 million contract and Manu Ginobli’s $10.7 million paycheck. San Antonio will start this season with a $78,296,230 payroll, compared to $68,118,085 from last year. Looking at those numbers alone, I would have to assume that a team that has used the same formula for the last decade would trade off one of their more expensive players to get back to three players that make over $10 million.
    This author (I use that term loosely here) makes an assumption that does not make sense; that because we are over the tax, we must be trying to get rid of a player.

    However, the front office said they are changing their philosophy about spending for this year. Thus, this trade does not make sense for the Spurs.

    Celtics are not really interested in this trade, either, I think, because Perkins is their starting C and is their best young bigman.

    However, I must admit that Rondo and Perkins for an unproven rookie bigman and Parker is an interesting thought.

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    Re iculous...uggh.

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    I would do it in a heartbeat!!!! WHY? because the spurs are loading up on talent Jefferson / Manu / Duncan can all give you 17-25pts a game. When you have that kind of talent, you need someone to give them the ball. Parker is not that kind of guard to take 6less shots a game and pass more. Rondo Knows how to play with talent and how to insert himself in the offense when nessecary. The Celtics were without KG and still managed to get to the second round because of the play of Rondo. Pierce is the only significant guy on the team. Allen as hot as he was is still a shooter and got his points from the play-making/play running of Rondo. The Spurs had Tim Duncan as their only other significant star, Parker scored 30-40pts /5-8ast and nobody else was involved and they got beat in the first round convincingly. With Rondo at the point for the spurs Duncan /Jefferson / Manu can just put up points while Rondo makes sure that the role players are involved enough to keep the opposing defenses moving, While Perkins gives you 10pts 10rbs 2blks+ much needed physicality downlow.

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    That might happen next, next season but not this season, the idea for this season was to go with a four headed (4 1/2 Blair?) monster to compete with the other handful of stacked teams in the league.

    BUT, if that doesn't work you might see something different, and much cheaper the year after.
    Yes we need to trade Parker and PM5K who that girl in the pic?

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    Answer: 1hr 44m

    Question: How long does it take for portnoy1 to hop on a 'trade Parker' thread.


    I admire your persistence.

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    There are only a handful of players I would even consider trading TP for, and none of the other teams would ever give up that much, so it make no sense.

    If Tim went down for good, then I would consider getting multiple pieces for TP along with picks, but not Rondo and Perkins.

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    On a positive note, his math skills exceed his abilities to analyze NBA basketball.

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    Pathetic thread much less thought.

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    Tony Parker and Ian Mahinmi to the Boston Celtics for Rajon Rondo, Brian Scalabrine, Bill Walker and Kendrick Perkins
    Stopped reading right there. No need to go further. Rondo and Perkins are both asses, and the other two are scrubs.

    If the Spurs are shopping Parker, and I doubt it, they can do much better than an offer featuring Boston's #4 guy.

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    Duh!!!!!

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    This article says shop him to see what value he has, not trade him. Why are all of you so paranoid?

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