http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...ing_to_jordan/#Ron Artest believes that the Lakers can be like the Bulls of the late 1990s.
Artest, who signed a free-agent deal with Los Angeles this summer, grew up as a fan of Michael Jordan.
"The opportunity was unbelievable. I get a chance to play with Kobe, Michael Jordan's my favorite player, Kobe's probably the closest person to Michael Jordan, so I get to kind of relive that whole Chicago Bulls thing growing up, that was my favorite team," Artest told 790 The Ticket in Miami.
"So, Phil Jackson, you got Kobe Bryant, you got myself at the three like Scottie Pippen, you have a clutch shooter in Derek Fisher like a Steve Kerr, you have Lamar Odom like a Toni Kukoc, it's just fun, it's a dream. I thank God so much to be in this situation, get a chance to win, playing with the defending champs, and I'm in LA 'cause you know I love the spotlight."
Kobe has a better supporting cast right now than Jordan has ever had. Kobe has 2 more than capable big men while Jordan had big men like Luc Longley,Dennis Rodman and Bill Wennington.
I admit the Spurs cant beat the Lakers right now and the next 3-4 years are gonna be the Lakers to lose....
He needs to get to a higher level: a June, 2010 Finals meeting with the Celtics would suffice. In order for us to triumph in that event Bryant would have to elevate his game to a previously unknown level. Then for the first time when he went, he'd of taken everyone with him.
Then, yes then he'd be able to enter the House of Magic justified. And yes, one could speak of Jordan & Kobe together without sullying each.
Kobe will never equal Jordan. Kobe knobslobbers won't ever change that.
+1
MJ >>> Kobe
and
Pippen >> Artest
The gap between Pippen and Artest is just as big as MJ and Kobe, if not bigger.
Ron Artest will never lead a 47 win team in points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals or do anything close to that.
Yeah none of those comparisons are near valid. Fisher hit a few lucky shots but % wise he's an average three point shooter, while Kerr was consistently one of the best three point shooters in the league.
Kukoc, Odom? Odom is better statistically but it's apples to potatoes.
Lakerstalk.com
What do all you Spurfans post on a Lakers website?
I agree, he led them in every major statistical category. I'd venture to say he'd play worse with all of the pressure of being the go to guy on a team.
So apparently Kobe < Jordan < Roy
Using distance as the gauge, Kobe might be 10 million miles from Jordan's level. But, if everyone else is 11 million miles or more away from Jordan's level, then the notion that Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan is still accurate.
Kobe will NEVER be as good as Jordan. EVER. Jordan is the GOAT. Kobe isn't even top 10 all-time.
^He might be top 10 of all time but he sure as isn't top 5 of all time yet.
Not true.
It will require a seminal moment. He can't do it simply by attrition & raw numbers. It will require fresh ground on the upper plain, somewhere where he's never been.
Is it in Bryant? Methinks not. His empiricals argue strongly against it. He has been crushed by Finals opponent of merit, while feeding on the very bottom of Final's opponents for his sustenance.
Magic had done likewise until his seminal moment came against the Celtics in '84. He was transcended by his tragedy, caused mostly by his own hand & deeds. Johnson met his demons at the point of reality and vanquished them sealing his legacy forever.
He's just wants to win. Hopefully we see a motivated Artest, who puts all of his passion and anger towards the good of the team, on the court, when he rebounds, defends, and finishes.
i was bout to post this but you said it first.
Here's why Kobe is nowhere near Jordan:
MVPs:
Kobe 1
Jordan 5
Finals MVPs:
Kobe 1
Jordan 6
Magic was most fortunate of how his destiny played out. Without '84, nothing for him or us goes the way it has, Daddy & Kobe included. Magic is our Father, our patriarch, our goodness. He is our purest Laker. He never looked away when tragedy struck. It only steeled him and clarified his goal. He risked all, held nothing back, as countless Lakers had afore him and delivered us our gleaming future.
Kobe is absolutely the closest thing to Jordan we've seen. But he's still nowhere near as great as Jordan and never will be.
Door stops, pretties, paper weights, even that LOB is comedy personified. It's just two things, it's never been anything else, nor ever will it be anything else:
1. Make the playoffs
2. Win the last game you play
Even (1.) is nothing more than a required means to the end.
Artest is right!
So by this logic Horry > Jordan > Kobe
Kobe's been in the league for 13 years. We've already seen the best he's had to offer.
Artest compares Kobe to Jordan (LOL)
The Lakers to the 2nd Bulls 3peat team (LOL)
Kukoc to Odom (LOL)
That 2nd Bulls 3peat team did not want to lose period. Went 72-10. They were incredibly smart, played with a high basketball IQ, played incredible defense and they did not have the depth the Lakers have now. A true model franchise.
Rodman had the hustle, pride and determination that he had out there was a sight to behold. He would risk injury just to grab a lose ball, he was a beast. Kukoc played with a high basketball IQ, was an excellent passer, set the triangle up to perfection and a real team leader. He also hit lots of big 3's at the right time in the game, truly a huge part of that 3peat team. No comparison to Odom, none.
Pippen and Jordan are probably the greatest duo in NBA history.
As for that Jordan guy, he's good, real good, the greatest.
Now if the Lakers go on to 3peat than we can compare, but for right now STFU Artest.
Last edited by Chillen; 08-19-2009 at 07:23 PM.
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