Artest: Kobe Is Closest Thing To Jordan

[xtremesteven33]

So by this logic Horry > Jordan > Kobe

Gosh not this again....


Kobe is just as good as Jordan when it comes to his game....Its not that hard to understand...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Gosh not this again....

I'm just using the logic people like you seem to love.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If were going off you're standards, then Jordan is not the greatest.

Who would be better?

[Culburn369]

"Kukoc to Odom (LOL)"

Kukoc was a such a winner. Reminds me of Manu. Both so mentally accomplished.

[xtremesteven33]

Who would be better?

The most decorated player in the history of the NBA is bar none Bill Russell.

The most dominant player of all time is bar none Michael Jordan.




Take your pick on what makes someone the greatest of all time...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Take your pick on what makes someone the greatest of all time...

Not one particular thing, just saying the huge gap and finals MVPs and MVPs makes it pretty hard to argue Kobe is as good as MJ.

[Chillen]

He didn't compare himself to Rodman you jackass. Read the ing article first, then reply.

Thanks for the heads up, my bad, you are right. Artest is wise to not go there. Rodman was a monster.

[redzero]

Russell played with the best players in the league. It's kind of disingenuous to put all the success on him.

[xtremesteven33]

Kobe's game is close to Jordans but if its accomplishments we're taking about than yea hes got a LONG way to go....

[Bandwagon Spurs Fan]

artest is a . he sounds like your average bandwagoning lakerfan.

[Chillen]

"Kukoc to Odom (LOL)"

Kukoc was a such a winner. Reminds me of Manu. Both so mentally accomplished.

Yeah, Manu is better, but for a near 7 footer he was pretty impressive and skilled, he knew how to win games for his team.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If we're going off of you're standards alone, then Russell is the GOAT. I don't use les when it comes to comparing the best players. Stockton was better than Parker, but Parker has the les. Skill set alone is enough for me, and I don't know of any players that have a better skill set than Jordan or Kobe. Now, I'd draft Magic over Kobe and Jordan, but then we're talking about a whole different topic.

Unlike most people, I think as far as a similar skillset to Jordan goes, Wade is the most similar, but Kobe's skillset is still better all around than Wade's, his jumper is better than Jordan's ever was. My point is, I don't think MJ and Kobe have the extremely similar skill set most people think they do.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Wade? I would agree with a healthy TMAC, but not Wade. Wade doesn't have the flair to his game like Jordan did. Kobe and TMAC are close. Jordan is his own brand. Its going to be hard for someone to come with the complete package that he had.

I never said Wade had the game Jordan had, I simply said Wade's skillset is more comparable to MJ than Kobe's is. Doesn't mean Wade > Kobe

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Wade doesn't have the flair to his game like Jordan did.

No one does.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The guy can't even shoot the 3.

Um, I agree MJ >>> Kobe, but using Kobe's 3 point shooting to argue that is beyond re ed. The one offensive skill most people would agree Kobe is better than MJ at is three point shooting.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I still don't see it. Wade mainly works off pick and rolls, where Jordan and Kobe work off of iso's, and post up.

There's really no way to prove this but from the Miami games I watch Wade rarely uses pick and rolls, that could be cause he doesn't need a pick to drive by Jason Richardson

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I wasn't comparing MJ and Kobe's 3 point shooting. I was using it to debunk the notion that he has the best skillset in the NBA, which he doesn't. Kobe uses the midrange game because he can't finish at the rim anymore with any consistency. He isn't a good passer. He doesn't defend. He relies on great teammates or he's out in the first round. Or not making the playoffs at all. He is nothing more than a glorified Tracy McGrady, albeit with better health.

If T-Mac stayed healthy his entire career he'd probably rank right up there with Kobe.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

And if Kobe didn't have Shaquille O'Neal or Pau Gasol, he would rank right up there with Allen Iverson as most overrated players of their generation.

Maybe with Shaq, but criticizing Kobe for needing Pau Gasol would be like criticizing Tim Duncan for needing Manu Ginobili.

[IronMexican]

Kobe is absolutely the closest thing to Jordan we've seen. But he's still nowhere near as great as Jordan and never will be.

[djohn2oo8]

compare how many times Kobe quit on his team compared to Jordan, and you'll have your answer

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Not even close. Manu is not comparable to Pau Gasol. Pau Gasol is twice the player Manu is. Manu had one amazing stretch in 2005 and has never reached that level again. Gasol has had sustained excellence of around 20 and 10 for his career.

Why is it Spurs fans never post anything like this when Manu is being compared to someone else?

[Culburn369]

And if Kobe didn't have Shaquille O'Neal or Pau Gasol, he would rank right up there with Allen Iverson as most overrated players of their generation.

Basically what I said a week ago and everybody called me everything but a white man.

[Culburn369]

compare how many times Kobe quit on his team compared to Jordan, and you'll have your answer

He quit on them that one season, at the directive of Stern, but, nonetheless thru his actions, Jordan ostensibly quit.

[lefty]

The 2nd amendment should be waived only for Artest

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Because I notice a lot of people on this site are either extremely loyal to the Spurs, or they don't watch very much basketball outside of the Spurs.

True, but my overall point is, needing a good side kick like Gasol shouldn't be held against you.