Pick the best right now's SEMIFINAL: Kobe vs Lebron

[Ghazi]

Lebron's a winner too

[Culburn369]

it probably would have tainted him if he hadnt won another ring.

MACHINE, his trespass can't be relieved by rings, no matter the count.

It bugs me no end that he competed in 2000 Vs. Portland down over 20---but he refused to do so Vs Phoenix down over 20. He learned nothing in the interim...anything can happen in an NBA Game,,,in life.

[ambchang]

Antoine Walker winning a ring makes him a winner!

[TheMACHINE]

MACHINE, his trespass can't be relieved by rings, no matter the count.

It bugs me no end that he competed in 2000 Vs. Portland down over 20---but he refused to do so Vs Phoenix down over 20. He learned nothing in the interim...anything can happen in an NBA Game,,,in life.

To each his own. I rather celebrate the accompshments he has done now then to revert back to a time in which his "team" play for that game caused him to go down by 20 at halftime. He said it himself, he said, we couldnt win against that type of team (suns) with him scoring 50 points. He needed to get his team involved and it was to late. Whether we believe him or not is the question.

I believed he tried to get his team involved in the first half..and tried it at the 3rd quarter....he just gave up. Looks bad in my eyes, but all that whining and pouting eventually got us a team capable of being a dynasty.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I think the one conclusion we can draw from these polls is it's extremely close and only a matter of opinion.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

IMO LA's biggest problem against the Suns in 2006 and 2007 was that they had one of the worst pick and roll defenses I've ever seen, so they had no way to defend the play the Suns ran 95% of the time when they weren't on a fast break.

[Culburn369]

he just gave up. Looks bad in my eyes, but all that whining and pouting eventually got us a team capable of being a dynasty.

And I got no problem with "that whining and pouting." None at all. He was righteous in his indictments of Buss. He just needed to finish that Phoenix game and then go after him.

[Culburn369]

IMO LA's biggest problem against the Suns in 2006 and 2007 was that they had one of the worst pick and roll defenses I've ever seen, so they had no way to defend the play the Suns ran 95% of the time when they weren't on a fast break.

DUNCAN, they had no talent after Kobe. You didn't have to guard Parker, Walton, or Brown.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

DUNCAN, they had no talent after Kobe. You didn't have to guard Parker, Walton, or Brown.

I know, but that's just about offense. Their defense was just as bad. It's not like the Suns were having an easy time stopping them on offense.

PS - For much of that series, the Suns were having real problems guarding Brown.

[redzero]

Lebron is better, but Kobe is a winner.

It takes a winner's heart to know when to pass to Gasol. If only LeBron knew when to pass to Gaso--oh, wait!

So that he can shoot 25% from the field and be bailed out by superior teammates? Good logic.

Hey, 25% of the time, Kobe hits his clutch shots all the time.

[Culburn369]

Their defense was just as bad.

Parker or Walton would never bend over. I mean those MF'ers refused to get down into a defensive posture. Isolate them with a camera and you wouldn't know what side of the ball they were on.

And Brown's IQ is like a turnips.

[TheMACHINE]

I know, but that's just about offense. Their defense was just as bad. It's not like the Suns were having an easy time stopping them on offense.

PS - For much of that series, the Suns were having real problems guarding Brown.

Suns Offense > Lakers Offense

Suns Defense > Lakers Defense (and that says alot)

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Suns Defense > Lakers Defense (and that says alot)

Exactly. As recently as 2008 the Lakers had some of the worst pick and roll defense ever, part of the reason why comparing today's Lakers to the Lakers team that got killed by Boston is stupid to do.

[Culburn369]

Suns Offense > Lakers Offense

Suns Defense > Lakers Defense (and that says alot)

Word.

But, I wanted that one so badly. After the '84 debacle that '07 loss is my greatest haunting memory. & I wouldn't a been greedy. Just beating those s woulda been enough. Those y bas s.

[TheMACHINE]

sometimes you just need a good beating to get over the hump....just ask Daniel-son.

[IronMexican]

I think the one conclusion we can draw from these polls is it's extremely close and only a matter of opinion.

Agreed

[Culburn369]

sometimes you just need a good beating to get over the hump....just ask Daniel-son.

MACHINE>>>>>>>>>citin' a masterpiece!!!!!!!!!

Oh, Daniel's girlfriend,,,,I God's, she was a chubby little rascal.

[Bandwagon Spurs Fan]

lebron, and its not even in close. you could say lebron is an attention , and then you remember your comparing him to kobe. lebron is a little , oh again, comparing him to kobe bryant. lebron has always had for teammates. lebron's probably going to drag old ass shaq to a finals appearance and maybe even win it all. kobe couldn't do that . kobe wouldn't have led cleveland's team past orlando. kobe sucks.

[lefty]

Semi-Final ?



Which means we'll have a Final soon ?




Which means those re ed polls from DAF86 will be over soon?












YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAH !!!!!


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[Culburn369]

This should have been a complete landslide for LeBron. Shows you how many Lakers trolls there are on this board.

They ran the poll too soon after LeBron fled the side door Vs. Orlando.

Kobe didn't have a difficult time with 'em.

[Culburn369]

Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Trevor Ariza and Derek Fisher didn't have a difficult time with them after Courtney Lee's missed layup changed the entire series.*

That's how you win...and how you lose, Damus.

Just shows ta go ya.

[spursfan1000]

Right now Kobe is better, but when Lebron is 30 he will be 10 times better than Kobe is right now at 30. Lebron shouldent get the blame for losing in the playoffs, this team was .

[spursfan1000]

I think you've got that backwards. There's a good chance that LeBron will not be as good as an 'old' player as Kobe is. Mainly because James, presently, doesn't even need to use a midrange jumper at all. Therefore, it may be harder for him to make the transition of becoming more of a jump shooter when he loses athleticism. Right now, I don't think there's any question who is the better player. It's LeBron, hands down.

What I shoulda have said when Lebron enters his prime as Kobe is right now that Lebron would be no question better. It's kind of unfair to compare Lebron and Kobe because Kobe has been in the NBA much more.

[Culburn369]

Lebron shouldent get the blame for losing in the playoffs, this team was .

Kobe's teams were as well and nobody would cut him any slack whatsoever. What's good for the goose, is most certainly sauce for the gander.

James bit the booger Vs Orlando and he must be hung out to dry as a result.

[carrao45]

Chris Paul is called a great defender by coaches just because he leads the league in steals. LeBron not only can guard almost any player, he does. He is a great help defender that makes people second guess themselves on offense and he does guard every player well. he might not be a lock down defender, but he is a difference maker on defense.

Did you watch the Orlando series? LeBron blew like 1000 defensive assignments. Almost all the points he got on offense he lost on the defensive end by playing bad D.