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  1. #51
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    Maybe with Shaq, but criticizing Kobe for needing Pau Gasol would be like criticizing Tim Duncan for needing Manu Ginobili.
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    Because I notice a lot of people on this site are either extremely loyal to the Spurs, or they don't watch very much basketball outside of the Spurs.
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    And The 2nd amendment should be waived only for Artest

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    Only this year have the Spurs really made a concerted effort to put a quality supporting cast around Duncan.
    Oh, skie, manitski, Damus is back in the sauce.

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    lol emo Spurs fans My Fault's Avatar
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    Kobe is great and will go down as one of the greatest to play the game but he is far from Jordan. IMO Lebron is better than Kobe and he is still getting better. He is closer to MJ with the greatness of his all around game.

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    My overall point is Kobe has had elite help to win or he hasn't won anything.

    Michael Jordan had elite help too.....I agree Tim Duncan has had some weak supporting casts, one reason why I think Duncan > Kobe, all I'm saying is Pau Gasol was one of a handful of big men who Kobe needed as a sufficient side kick.

    The way I see it, Gasol is just as much Kobe's sidekick as Kobe was Shaq's sidekick from 2000-2002. Shaq was the guy who took defensive attention off Kobe and made him better then, Kobe is the guy who takes attention off Gasol and makes him better now. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

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    compare how many times Kobe quit on his team compared to Jordan, and you'll have your answer
    Actually, you're probably too young to remember....but those baseball seasons were awesome for the bulls...especially after a 3 peat.

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    ...MAYBE...

    But when Kobes and LeBrons career will be over i think it will be LeBron the closest thing to Jordan

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    ...MAYBE...

    But when Kobes and LeBrons career will be over i think it will be LeBron the closest thing to Jordan
    Maybe you're right, and by that time you'd be a senior in high school and probably have kissed a girl by then.

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    Kobe has a better supporting cast right now than Jordan has ever had. Kobe has 2 more than capable big men while Jordan had big men like Luc Longley,Dennis Rodman and Bill Wennington.

    I admit the Spurs cant beat the Lakers right now and the next 3-4 years are gonna be the Lakers to lose....
    Can't? You are crazy if you think we can't beat them.

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    Actually, you're probably too young to remember....but those baseball seasons were awesome for the bulls...especially after a 3 peat.
    Well, when Stern tells you to "quit"...Jordan quit.

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    I know that Biedrins is in that picture somewhere.

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    Roy?

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    There is nothing wrong with saying Kobe is the closest to Jordan. Kobe modelled his whole career after Jordan (except playing for the Bulls part), he wanted to be like Mike like nobody else.

    Other than Kobe having much better teammates than Jordan at the beginning of their respective careers, Kobe has been dying to be like Mike, and he was successful at it.

    LeBron James on the other hand, is nowhere near what Jordan was. Their playing styles are different, their mode of attack is different. James' game was much closer to a Pippen on steriods mode, where he can do everything extremely well, but none at the level of best of all time.

    Just want to make it clear though, I am not saying Kobe > James, in fact, I think James > Kobe, but in terms of playing like Jordan, nobody could come close to Kobe.

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    There is nothing wrong with saying Kobe is the closest to Jordan. Kobe modelled his whole career after Jordan (except playing for the Bulls part), he wanted to be like Mike like nobody else.

    Other than Kobe having much better teammates than Jordan at the beginning of their respective careers, Kobe has been dying to be like Mike, and he was successful at it.

    LeBron James on the other hand, is nowhere near what Jordan was. Their playing styles are different, their mode of attack is different. James' game was much closer to a Pippen on steriods mode, where he can do everything extremely well, but none at the level of best of all time.

    Just want to make it clear though, I am not saying Kobe > James, in fact, I think James > Kobe, but in terms of playing like Jordan, nobody could come close to Kobe.
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    compare how many times Kobe quit on his team compared to Jordan, and you'll have your answer
    Jordan quit on the Bulls twice. The first time because his gambling addiction became a big problem and he needed to take some heat off of it. The second time when the Bulls refused to bring back Scottie and Phil after #6. Jordan has said many times that he would have come back if they brought Phil and Scottie back. Since they didn't, he decided to "quit."

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    Jordan quit on the Bulls twice. The first time because his gambling addiction became a big problem and he needed to take some heat off of it. The second time when the Bulls refused to bring back Scottie and Phil after #6. Jordan has said many times that he would have come back if they brought Phil and Scottie back. Since they didn't, he decided to "quit."
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    Kobe may be close but he is not MJ nor will there be another MJ.

    However.....that's not a bad thing. Kobe is Kobe. Why not just let him be the "first Kobe" instead of the next Jordan?

    He brings his own unique talents to the game and when he is done, there will be those who come close but never be another as well.

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    Come to think of it, is Artest going to break Kobe's ribs like he did to Jordan?

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    Sooo first Artest wanted to knock Kobe's lights out, and now he's sucking his saying Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan? WTF!?!

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