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    Yes...it's ok to post lies about Greek league because we don't care about the Greek league. And all the people that do care know the truth, so they know that we're just talking crap to piss you off. Now you, on the other hand, insult and cuss at people..THAT is not ok to do.
    I have asked you many times to stop the racist jokes towards Greece and Greeks and anything related to it. I have asked so many times and it never stops. If I make any comment to the Americans doing this I am called "racist" and "anti American". I am ing sick of this .

    STOP IT.

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    Stop your damn lies about me. Who the do you think you are? All this you make up about me is ing absurd and ridiculous. People make RACIST and UNTRUE insults to me and all Greeks EVERY day here and NOTHING is done about it.

    And if I say something back then immediately I am "anti American" and all this other disgusting bull . i am sick of this type of behavior. If you people that do this cannot stop then to with you. You have been asked hundreds of times to stop it and you refuse. YES any American that acts like this gives Americans a bad name.

    And if you were really a good American you would never tolerate such . But clearly you are just a racist jerk.
    Any Greek that would tell people " off" is clearly racist and gives Greeks bad names. I am sure it is a beautiful country with beautiful people, but you have scared off honest, hard working Americans from exploring it. This is because we are scared, yes scared, that all Greeks are like you. We do not want to be showered with a lack of respect and racist foul remarks.

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    Any Greek that would tell people " off" is clearly racist and gives Greeks bad names. I am sure it is a beautiful country with beautiful people, but you have scared off honest, hard working Americans from exploring it. This is because we are scared, yes scared, that all Greeks are like you. We do not want to be showered with a lack of respect and racist foul remarks.
    I am supposed to tell these people thank you for their crap towards me and Greek culture? They can say whatever they want and i can't be mad or upset about it?

    But I cannot say ANYTHING about US without being "racist"? Your double standard and how you defend others that are always posting racist and anti Greek lies makes you one of those xenophobes.

    If you want me to not tell people to off maybe you should tell others to NOT post hate and lies towards me and the country I come from all the damn time here.

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    Link to where I post racist remarks and lies or defend them? I love Greece and their people and especially their basketball. Especially their basketball.

    You are supposed to be the best culture, but you are the worst now. People are scared of your remarks and now scared of Greece.

    You must be stopped, and I will do it by formally requesting that you be banned.

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    Link to where I post racist remarks and lies or defend them? I love Greece and their people and especially their basketball. Especially their basketball.

    You are supposed to be the best culture, but you are the worst now. People are scared of your remarks and now scared of Greece.

    You must be stopped, and I will do it by formally requesting that you be banned.
    What the is wrong with you? This entire thread has been a personal attack against me, Greece, Greek people, Greek culture. You are a joke. I have had enough of the Greek racism here.

    Anyone that reads this thread and ANY thread thet might have something to do with Greece is full of these racist anti Greek bashing and lies and propoganda.

    Kori asked the members to STOP this. She requested and gave a warning. But it NEVER stops for the Greek abuse and bashing. I have given many members here so many chances to stop and yes of course I tell them to off when they are posting all this disgusting .

    You cant even ing post the story about a player signing with olympiacos without all this RACIST crap being posted here. It's ing ridiculous.

    The site owner said to stop this so damn it STOP IT. And that includes people like you that defend it. i don't care if you are not saying it, because you are defending that is done. Then you like a total jerk accuse me of being "anti American" for complaining about it. You are clearly at the very least ethnocentric and xenophobic.

    Also Kori asked to stop all the gay jokes and talking gay people. But somehow the forum thinks this does not apply to Greece and Greeks. HUNDREDS of times have their been posts here stating by members that everyone in Greece is gay and rapes men and all this .

    So your complaints are funny to say the least when I get this for hundreds of posts this abuse and you even cannot take a few posst complaining about it.

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    Which moderator do i have to complain to to get all the anti Greece and racism towards Greece to stop here? I know that Kori has said for members here to stop this crap and yet it is not ever stopping.

    I am really angry and frustrated about it because it just never ends.

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    You are racist because you only tell Americans to "f*ck off" and no one else. But I will make a deal with you. Because I do not condone racism and I back Greece and their basketball team, which is clearly top 5 in Europe.

    I will not ask for you to be banned permanently (and I have the moderators phone number directly) if you promise to love Americans like you do your Greece brothers and stop hurling insults and cuss words. Deal?

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    So where exactly does Panellinios play their 13 home Greek League games?

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    So where exactly does Panellinios play their 13 home Greek League games?




    J/K K_B_P

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    You are racist because you only tell Americans to "f*ck off" and no one else. But I will make a deal with you. Because I do not condone racism and I back Greece and their basketball team, which is clearly top 5 in Europe.

    I will not ask for you to be banned permanently (and I have the moderators phone number directly) if you promise to love Americans like you do your Greece brothers and stop hurling insults and cuss words. Deal?
    What? Why this double standard? I am not anti American. This is a fantasy you created. I am angry at all the racists here that keep attacking Greece and Greeks. Understand? If I tell them " you" and all this it is because they are every day starting this and making these racist posts.

    I am not the problem it is them. I have no problem with anyone if they are not making these anti Greek posts endlessly here. You and everyone else know who they are.

    It is ALWAYS posted in this forum how Greece is a disgusting, poor, back words, and barbaric people and that it is a hole and a disgrace to the world and how Greek people are evil barbarians. You expect Greeks to not get angry over this? If you tell them to off suddenly you are "anti American".

    What I want is for this to stop and then I will have no problem with anyone here. Do you see when it is posted that a NBA team signs a player 50 posts making fun of the American culture, American arenas, American people, etc.? No and not to any other country. And it is not just Americans doing this you imagine this as well. Many of the ones that do this are Europeans. And of course you should know that Greece has some enemies in Europe.

    Why is there not this same racism to French and Argentines here? Answer me this.

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    What? Why this double standard? I am not anti American. This is a fantasy you created. I am angry at all the racists here that keep attacking Greece and Greeks. Understand? If I tell them " you" and all this it is because they are every day starting this and making these racist posts.

    I am not the problem it is them. I have no problem with anyone if they are not making these anti Greek posts endlessly here. You and everyone else know who they are.

    It is ALWAYS posted in this forum how Greece is a disgusting, poor, back words, and barbaric people and that it is a hole and a disgrace to the world and how Greek people are evil barbarians. You expect Greeks to not get angry over this? If you tell them to off suddenly you are "anti American".

    What I want is for this to stop and then I will have no problem with anyone here. Do you see when it is posted that a NBA team signs a player 50 posts making fun of the American culture, American arenas, American people, etc.? No and not to any other country. And it is not just Americans doing this you imagine this as well. Many of the ones that do this are Europeans. And of course you should know that Greece has some enemies in Europe.

    Why is there not this same racism to French and Argentines here? Answer me this.
    How dare you. Are you trying to say I make racist remarks and comments? If so, I must now take my deal off of the table and call the moderator directly to have you banned for your lies.

  12. #112
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    Which moderator do i have to complain to to get all the anti Greece and racism towards Greece to stop here? I know that Kori has said for members here to stop this crap and yet it is not ever stopping.

    I am really angry and frustrated about it because it just never ends.
    I think Kori is the only person you need to talk to. It's in the FAQ's to PM her if you have any problems. Send her a PM and be patient. She'll answer you when she can.

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    228 with a dash of seriousness.

  14. #114
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    228 with a dash of seriousness.
    He posted this everywhere, including my profile. I was just answering him here.

    I request for the mods to stop allowing the endless lies, racism, hatred, filth and trash that is posted here DAILY degrading Greece, Greek culture, Greek people, Greek basketball, etc.

    There are forum rules in place for now allowing such to be done to other countries here and so this ing racist towards Greece needs to stop. I have had enough of it. I have asked nicely many times for it to stop and it never stops.

    I have argued and told people to off and stop it and NOTHING. It just never ends. This site has become a pure racist site with extreme hatred and lies towards anything related to Greece and it needs to stop.

    PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT

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    2009-10 season not 3 years.

    Exceptions ONLY if they have a 5,000 arena and are building currently a new 10,000 plus one and ONLY exception for 2 years. Mountainballer started his LIES again saying some Euroleague teams have less than 5,000 arenas and no one is building new arenas and all that .

    The OLD rule from back in 2000 is ALL Euroleague teams MUST have at least 5,000 arena. As usual Mountainballer is a lying asshole who does nothing but stir up fights and spew garbage here. He is clearly a deceiver and yet he is allowed to endlessly make up these lies here and treat others like total all the time and claim that anyone pointing out his lies is the one lying.
    Hey ing liar read this

    http://www.heinnews.com/heinnews/int...ordi-bertomeu/

    Bertomeu: Well, what we agreed was that the next three years we will cooperate in many aspects. It’s not only about Final Four events. They will work together with us and with the clubs, trying to help the clubs in the building or even the management of their arenas. Because we have approved a rule starting 2011-12 that all clubs will have to have 10,000 seat arenas. In many cities - Siena, Istanbul, Vitoria, Kaunas, Lyon - there are projects starting to build new gyms. So we are also co-operating with Anschutz in that aspect.

    http://www.ballineurope.com/european...closed-league/

    The goal of the Euroleague is to have a 10,000 seat arena minimum from the 2009-10 on. There will be exceptions for teams that have a minimum of 5,000 seats in their arena but fixed plans must be in place to build a new arena within a period of three years.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Once again you are a liar that makes up .
    I'm sorry...I couldn't hear over your bull

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    CD, you are late. I am tired of doing your work while you stroll in when ever you want. Last time my friend.

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    Sorry, dude.

    Ahem....

    If any NBA arena currently looks like this:



    I'll make fun of it.

    Bonus points for the snappy patio furniture.

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    Bonus points for the snappy patio furniture.

    Dude...it is patio furniture...that 's funny.

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    I feel that it is my duty to disabuse KBP of the notion that it is his moral imperative to punish dissent through intimidation, public ridicule, economic exclusion, imprisonment, and most extremely, death. Permit me this forum to rant. He insists that he has no choice but to test another formula for silencing serious opposition. His reasoning is that individual worth is defined by race, ethnicity, religion, or national origin. Yes, I realize that that argument makes no sense, but KBP's protests can be subtle. They can be so subtle that many people never realize they're being influenced by them on this board. That's why we must proactively notify humanity that an understanding of the damage that may be caused by KBP's loud, pathetic obloquies isn't something I expect everyone to develop the first time they hear about it. That's why I write over and over again and from so many different angles about how many people have witnessed KBP wreck our board and many of it's great members and contributors with extinction. KBP generally insists that his witnesses are mistaken and blames his venal newsgroup postings on hotheaded wankers AKA American's. It's like he has no-fault insurance against personal responsibility and the proven lies he post. What's more, ancient Greek dramatists discerned a peculiar virtue in being tragic. KBP would do well to realize that they never discerned any virtue in being beastly AND barbaric.

    KBP wants to get me thrown in jail. He can't cite a specific statute that I've violated, but he does believe that there must be some statute in America. This tells me that KBP has been trying to conceal his plans to siphon off scarce international capital intended for underdeveloped countries like his own country Greece. Fortunately, the truth about his frowzy musings and location is spreading like a jungle fire. Soon, everyone will know that I challenged KBP to point out his true IP to justify his stances and location. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing.

    Let's consider for a moment, though, that maybe aside from a few exceptions, this statement is indubitably valid. Then doesn't it follow that KBP's litanies are the epitome of insensitivity? At the same time, only the impartial and unimpassioned mind will even consider that at this point in the letter I had planned to tell you that KBP's arrogance will lead him to smear and defame me any day now. However, one of my colleagues pointed out that it does not require a Sherlock Holmes to prove that I am flat-out tired of his psychological bullying. Hence, I discarded the discourse I had previously prepared and subs uted the following discussion in which I argue that KBP is the embodiment of everything petty in our lives. EVERYTHING. Every grievance, every envy, every counter-productive, contemptible ideology finds expression in KBP and his disgusting actions. Words cannot convey the hurt and despair that I and so many others feel for those who were personally attacked by KBP on this forum. He will almost certainly tiptoe around that glaringly evident fact because if he didn't, you might come to realize that relative to just a few post ago, short-sighted meatheads are nearly ten times as likely to believe that we have no reason to be fearful about the criminally violent trends in our society today and over the past ten to fifteen years. This is neither a coincidence nor simply a sign of the times. Rather, it reflects a sophisticated, psychological warfare program like mentality designed by KBP to intensify or perpetuate propagandism (anti-americanism). And now, to end with a clever bit of doggerel: United we stand Spurstalk. Divided we fall. KBP's sniffish principles will destroy us all.


    Kori - As it took me over an hour to convey my message...I request - no - I DEMAND KBP be permently banned for the reasons illustrated. I feel this deserved a public calling and a public execution on this board. Thank you for your time.

  20. #120
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    Hmm I wonder why KBP and Greece are insulted so much...

    Latvia is not a low level European team idiot
    ...in the entire world dumb ass.
    And you stupid dumb ass that was...
    Once again you ing IDIOT that...
    ...and once again YOU
    What is wrong with the idiot that... he is re ed.
    You are re ed.
    You are a ing liar. YOU.
    OFF you are an arrogant and ignorant American.
    You are a ing idiot.
    You stupid ing moron...Read this and STFU
    ING IDIOT
    ing idiot.
    For ALL teams idiot.
    Hey dumb his deal was already SIGNED... So STFU once again.
    Hey dumb ass...So you can STFU.
    Don't believe these stupid ing liars
    You are a dumb jerk. Piss off.
    YOU
    You are a racist s bag.
    You are a barbarian culture which is decades behind western Europe.
    You are a dumb ass.
    Spanoulis is far better than those other players like Pargo and Childress.
    Are you an idiot?
    Here is proof of what I say as the LIAR Chmupdumper keeps spreading his lies about me.
    Once again KBP was correct.
    You are obviously extremely ignorant.
    You are a ing idiot.
    You are a joke.
    You are simply re ed. Unreal.
    It is the SAME league idiot.
    Are you re ed?
    You are a real moron.
    You really need to STFU
    Are you really this stupid?
    He won 2 gold medals idiot.
    You are re ed.
    So why can you not learn to read?
    Let me properyl educate you.
    You are stupid.
    You are an idiot.
    You are a ing LIAR.
    There is no ing way in you would have ever found that without being able to read Greek. How ing stupid are you?
    You stupid fool
    STFU
    All you ing assholes that call me a liar and say I should be banned read this and GTFO.
    You ing idiot.
    Amerika IS correct spelling. This was ALREADY EXPLAINED before do not start this again.
    STFU I am putting you in ignore list.
    Why the do you make up lies endlessly.
    Most of you seem fat.
    Let us stop insults please.
    Fact: Over 30% of his posts contain an insult and over 40% contain swearing.

  21. #121
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    7 of the 14 teams in the top Greek league play in arenas with capacities of 2500 or less. Last season's 5th place team plays in this palace:



    Panellinios Indoor Hall has 800 permanent seats and a retractable stand behind one of the baskets. It was once open-air and was covered in the late 1970's. It is home to the basketball, volleyball and handball teams of Panellinios, one of the oldest sports clubs in Europe, founded in 1891.

    http://www.stadia.gr/panellinios/panellinios.html
    Nice find!

    At least it's covered

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    Hey ing liar read this

    http://www.heinnews.com/heinnews/int...ordi-bertomeu/

    Bertomeu: Well, what we agreed was that the next three years we will cooperate in many aspects. It’s not only about Final Four events. They will work together with us and with the clubs, trying to help the clubs in the building or even the management of their arenas. Because we have approved a rule starting 2011-12 that all clubs will have to have 10,000 seat arenas. In many cities - Siena, Istanbul, Vitoria, Kaunas, Lyon - there are projects starting to build new gyms. So we are also co-operating with Anschutz in that aspect.

    http://www.ballineurope.com/european...closed-league/

    The goal of the Euroleague is to have a 10,000 seat arena minimum from the 2009-10 on. There will be exceptions for teams that have a minimum of 5,000 seats in their arena but fixed plans must be in place to build a new arena within a period of three years.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Once again you are a liar that makes up .
    you claimed there IS a rule and therefore ALL euroleague teams ARE PLAYING in arenas larger than 10.000.
    which was wrong.
    the fact, that there WILL BE a rule in some years, doesn't make your false informations correct, especially since you tried to use this as an evidence, that the mentioned Greek teams (playing Eurocup) are CURRENTLY playing in arenas bigger than 5.000, when in fact they are currently playing in the shown laughable high school size gyms.

  23. #123
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    I feel that it is my duty to disabuse KBP of the notion that it is his moral imperative to punish dissent through intimidation, public ridicule, economic exclusion, imprisonment, and most extremely, death. Permit me this forum to rant. He insists that he has no choice but to test another formula for silencing serious opposition. His reasoning is that individual worth is defined by race, ethnicity, religion, or national origin. Yes, I realize that that argument makes no sense, but KBP's protests can be subtle. They can be so subtle that many people never realize they're being influenced by them on this board. That's why we must proactively notify humanity that an understanding of the damage that may be caused by KBP's loud, pathetic obloquies isn't something I expect everyone to develop the first time they hear about it. That's why I write over and over again and from so many different angles about how many people have witnessed KBP wreck our board and many of it's great members and contributors with extinction. KBP generally insists that his witnesses are mistaken and blames his venal newsgroup postings on hotheaded wankers AKA American's. It's like he has no-fault insurance against personal responsibility and the proven lies he post. What's more, ancient Greek dramatists discerned a peculiar virtue in being tragic. KBP would do well to realize that they never discerned any virtue in being beastly AND barbaric.

    KBP wants to get me thrown in jail. He can't cite a specific statute that I've violated, but he does believe that there must be some statute in America. This tells me that KBP has been trying to conceal his plans to siphon off scarce international capital intended for underdeveloped countries like his own country Greece. Fortunately, the truth about his frowzy musings and location is spreading like a jungle fire. Soon, everyone will know that I challenged KBP to point out his true IP to justify his stances and location. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing.

    Let's consider for a moment, though, that maybe aside from a few exceptions, this statement is indubitably valid. Then doesn't it follow that KBP's litanies are the epitome of insensitivity? At the same time, only the impartial and unimpassioned mind will even consider that at this point in the letter I had planned to tell you that KBP's arrogance will lead him to smear and defame me any day now. However, one of my colleagues pointed out that it does not require a Sherlock Holmes to prove that I am flat-out tired of his psychological bullying. Hence, I discarded the discourse I had previously prepared and subs uted the following discussion in which I argue that KBP is the embodiment of everything petty in our lives. EVERYTHING. Every grievance, every envy, every counter-productive, contemptible ideology finds expression in KBP and his disgusting actions. Words cannot convey the hurt and despair that I and so many others feel for those who were personally attacked by KBP on this forum. He will almost certainly tiptoe around that glaringly evident fact because if he didn't, you might come to realize that relative to just a few post ago, short-sighted meatheads are nearly ten times as likely to believe that we have no reason to be fearful about the criminally violent trends in our society today and over the past ten to fifteen years. This is neither a coincidence nor simply a sign of the times. Rather, it reflects a sophisticated, psychological warfare program like mentality designed by KBP to intensify or perpetuate propagandism (anti-americanism). And now, to end with a clever bit of doggerel: United we stand Spurstalk. Divided we fall. KBP's sniffish principles will destroy us all.


    Kori - As it took me over an hour to convey my message...I request - no - I DEMAND KBP be permently banned for the reasons illustrated. I feel this deserved a public calling and a public execution on this board. Thank you for your time.

  24. #124
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    Hmm I wonder why KBP and Greece are insulted so much...



    Fact: Over 30% of his posts contain an insult and over 40% contain swearing.
    If others will start being nice and treating me with respect then I will do same to them also. Remember I asked others here to do this before and in this thread I was attacked and ridiculed. And these people have always started it with me before.

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    you claimed there IS a rule and therefore ALL euroleague teams ARE PLAYING in arenas larger than 10.000.
    which was wrong.
    the fact, that there WILL BE a rule in some years, doesn't make your false informations correct, especially since you tried to use this as an evidence, that the mentioned Greek teams (playing Eurocup) are CURRENTLY playing in arenas bigger than 5.000, when in fact they are currently playing in the shown laughable high school size gyms.
    You just lied again. Your lies are pathetic. You don't and can't stop it seems.

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