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[ChumpDumper]

Mel has said in dozens of posts those are the only arenas. I guess you cannot read. manufan is also trying to argue the same.

Neither of them said that. They provided evidence that they play many, if not a majority of their games in the smaller venues.

No lies.

[manufan10]

You are on purpose posting images of arenas that are years old. The same arenas with renovations and expansions since then. You make no mention of this and if it is pointed out to you then you get an at ude.

I guess you don't grasp basic concepts. You also refuse to acknowledge which clubs plays in which arenas and instead insist only on the arenas you want to list. And you also use information that even for that is years old.

You also insist on denying that panellinios and AEK play in the other arenas even with the logo of the club on one arena and even with box scores to prove Panellinios plays there.

Box scores to show Maroussi plays at OAKA, AEK plays at OAKA - OAKA is the 20,000 arena. And that panellinios plays at the 15,000 arena. The official uleb site itself I guess is not factual for you. But some guy's personal website that is years old is more "proof" than something like euroleague.net

Even chumpdumper who only exists in this forum to be someone that causes fights and to harrass others even admitted they play there from the box scores. He is talking about attendance figures because he is a racist bigot that likes to bash other cultures but even he could admit the teams play there. Something you seem incapable to even grasp.

Mel is just a racist jerk and a pure 100% liar. So which are you? Just a jerk trying to bash other countries for bigoted reasons like Mel or just a jerk like chumpdumper that is racist and likes to pick on other people?

I'm just clicking on the links from the website you have used. I posted pictures from that website that said those are the current arenas. I scrolled down to find other pictures or other arenas, but they weren't on that site. I've never given you at ude, so I don't know where you got that from. I haven't shied away from posting what teams play where, I posted them on the bottom of each picture. Again, I'm using the same website as you. Click the link and it will take you to the list of clubs/arenas in Greece. Then click on the team in Division 1 or Division 2 and it will take you to the main arena. If you don't like it, that's fine. It's from this website that I'm getting the pictures and the teams who play there:

http://www.stadia.gr/maps/mapbasketball.html

I'm not being a jerk about anything. I'm also not being a racist. Nowhere in my posts have I even dictated anything that can give you such an idea. Again, I'm just posting the ARENAS that are in Greece. There are some nice quality arenas, but there are also "high school looking" arenas.

[Mel_13]

You do not know what the system is, you refuse to even look up on internet to learn about it. You come back with bashing and taunting posts being WRONG in what you say and arrogant and condescending about it. You are a sad person. There is no end to your level of ignorance.

As they say you are a fly over person.

Read it yourself:

http://www.euroleague.net/compe ion/teams

http://www.euroleague.net/compe ion/format

"The first qualifying round will have 8 teams playing in two-game series (home and away), the winners of which will advance to the second qualifying round.
The losers of these two-game series will play in the 2009-10 Eurocup."

[Spursfan092120]

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Provide a single quote where I said that the teams played all their games in the smaller arenas. Just one.

From the Panellionis discussion earlier in this thread:

provide a single post where you showed intelligence, manners, and respect.

If it exists somewhere bookmark it because it is a treasure.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Neither of them said that. They provided evidence that they play many, if not a majority of their games in the smaller venues.

No lies.

They lied plain and simple over and over and over. They make you seem like a very nice person.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I'm just clicking on the links from the website you have used. I posted pictures from that website that said those are the current arenas. I scrolled down to find other pictures or other arenas, but they weren't on that site. I've never given you at ude, so I don't know where you got that from. I haven't shied away from posting what teams play where, I posted them on the bottom of each picture. Again, I'm using the same website as you. Click the link and it will take you to the list of clubs/arenas in Greece. Then click on the team in Division 1 or Division 2 and it will take you to the main arena. If you don't like it, that's fine. It's from this website that I'm getting the pictures and the teams who play there:

http://www.stadia.gr/maps/mapbasketball.html

I'm not being a jerk about anything. I'm also not being a racist. Nowhere in my posts have I even dictated anything that can give you such an idea. Again, I'm just posting the ARENAS that are in Greece. There are some nice quality arenas, but there are also "high school looking" arenas.

Get a dictionary and look up English word ignorant. You might learn something.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Read it yourself:

http://www.euroleague.net/compe ion/teams

http://www.euroleague.net/compe ion/format

"The first qualifying round will have 8 teams playing in two-game series (home and away), the winners of which will advance to the second qualifying round.
The losers of these two-game series will play in the 2009-10 Eurocup."

You are ridiculous. It would take a 10 year old 5 minutes to learn that this is not a promotion and relegation system. I feel sorry for you.

[manufan10]

Pictures are lying. I've posted the link to the site that both you and I have used. I haven't cursed or bashed Greece, yet ChumpDumper looks nice compared to me.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I like cats. I had 2 of them and they both died.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Pictures are lying. I've posted the link to the site that both you and I have used. I haven't cursed or bashed Greece, yet ChumpDumper looks nice compared to me.

The site is almost entirely outdated by 5-7 years except for a few facts. You are ignorant, you are arrogant, but more than that you are prideful about it.

[manufan10]

Get a dictionary and look up English word ignorant. You might learn something.

You see, no where in my posts did I insult you. Yet you come to me with insults. You claim you are going to tell the mods about the things I've said, but I have never insulted or cursed at you or Greeks.

I looked up the word ignorant and this is what I found:

[Spursfan092120]

I like cats. I had 2 of them and they both died.

I apologize for your loss...lost my dog I've had for 19 years last year.

[ChumpDumper]

They lied plain and simple over and over and over. They make you seem like a very nice person.

Nah, they have much more polite than I.

I think it's very safe to conclude that several A1 clubs continue to play in smaller, tier venues like those pictured in the thread for economic reasons, and I have no problem with that. If the Toros tried to play in the Frank Erwin Center, they wouldn't have stayed here more than one season. They were toying with the idea of playing in an even smaller venue than they do now to get better scheduling. I probably would have canceled my season tickets in that case, as bench seating is a deal breaker for me.

[manufan10]

The site is almost entirely outdated by 5-7 years except for a few facts. You are ignorant, you are arrogant, but more than that you are prideful about it.

I'm just going by what it says. Again, I'm NOT BASHING the Greek arenas, which you don't seem to comprehend. The site said these were the arenas from the 2008-2009 year.

Basketball Clubs in professional divisions (2008-2009)

http://www.stadia.gr/maps/mapbasketball.html

If it's wrong, prove it with links/pictures. I'll own up to it like I did with the other arena where there was significant upgrades.

[ChumpDumper]

The site is almost entirely outdated by 5-7 years except for a few facts. You are ignorant, you are arrogant, but more than that you are prideful about it.

If you have newer pictures of those small arenas, post them. I posted the picture of Maroussi's arena from their website.

[manufan10]

I like cats. I had 2 of them and they both died.

I apologize for your loss...lost my dog I've had for 19 years last year.

+1

My dog that I've had for 15 years just passed away last week.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm just going by what it says. Again, I'm NOT BASHING the Greek arenas, which you don't seem to comprehend.

I will bash any upper level pro basketball arena with bench seats and/or plastic patio furniture.

[Mel_13]

You are ridiculous. It would take a 10 year old 5 minutes to learn that this is not a promotion and relegation system. I feel sorry for you.

So please tell us.

What words would you use to describe what will happen to the loser of the matches between Aris and Maroussi?

In fact I don't think the loser will be relegated to a lower level of play. That would presume that the teams were already in the higher league. Neither Aris or Maroussi have yet qualified for regular season Euroleague play.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You see, no where in my posts did I insult you. Yet you come to me with insults. You claim you are going to tell the mods about the things I've said, but I have never insulted or cursed at you or Greeks.

I looked up the word ignorant and this is what I found:

You are ready for banishment. According to manufan 1/3 of US is ignorant and he singles out the middle of "heartland USA".

The mods made clear such actions would result in banning after they gave warnings. Of course you can say racist things all day to Greece here and it is "funny" but they take the "USA, USA, USA" serious here. Probably because of the Texas issue.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I will bash any upper level pro basketball arena with bench seats and/or plastic patio furniture.

You are a racist. Did you actually think you fooled anyone?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I apologize for your loss...lost my dog I've had for 19 years last year.

I still have 2 dogs. They are like 8 years now. I hope they last this long as 19 years.

[manufan10]

Ah, the joys of selective reading.

[ChumpDumper]

You are a racist. Did you actually think you fooled anyone?

I tried to find a small arena in the ACB to bash, but they all hold at least 5,000 people. Nevertheless, if I find a picture of bleacher seating or plastic patio furniture in another upper level league's venue, rest assured it will be bashed.

[Mel_13]

I tried to find a small arena in the ACB to bash, but they all hold at least 5,000 people. Nevertheless, if I find a picture of bleacher seating or plastic patio furniture in another upper level league's venue, rest assured it will be bashed.