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Our president is running the executive with Czars -- and a pretty whacky group of them, at that -- that have never faced Senate confirmation and he's left the actual cabinet members as window dressing.
If you have no fear of ever increasing governmental power...watch closely.
Our president is running the executive with Czars -- and a pretty whacky group of them, at that -- that have never faced Senate confirmation and he's left the actual cabinet members as window dressing.
The Empire Strikes Back!
Go Vader!
But you don't fear corporate power and its ability to buy the govt actions that enrich the corps at the expense of citizens?
Nope...to whatever nonsense that was.
Corporations pay to keep govt off them. Think extortion, mafia style. The govt has all the guns and power. If business don't pay enough, or try to compete with the govt...
...this attack on insurance companies will teach them. When WalMart gets that kind of power, I will fear them as much as govt now.
Watch it closely over the next months. By the end of it, with media outlets help...the insurance companies will look worse than terrorists. They will be investigated, regulated, demonized and demoralized.
This is how govt deals with, er..."compe ion." This is what govt abuse of power looks like.
Last edited by SouthernFried; 08-19-2009 at 09:48 PM.
"They will be investigated, regulated, demonized and demoralized."
.. sounds like a great plan. It will never happen.
because, like with Repugs blocking investigation of torture, the corps own enough Congress people to block investigation of for-profit health insurance companies.
btw, I don't think they need to be investigated. We know enough already that justifies a no-profit public option to reduce insurance prices and drive the for-profit insurance companies into boutique niches where they can scam those who want to buy from them.
a national co-op might work, the Repugs will fight like , block any change to protect their owners in the for-profit health insurance industry. And the Vast Right-Wing Hate Media Conspiracy will lie its way to success, already well under way.
regional or state co-ops won't work because they will be crushed and co-opted by the much larger for-profit insurance companies.
LOL
Speak out against Obama as a citizen, get his wolf pack to dive into your personal history and ninja character assassinate yo azz
Oppose Obama's policies as a business, the IRS comes'a'knockin'
Damn you're naive.
You want to strip corps of rights - to keep them from controlling the govt. which ACTUALLY holds the power that is being manipulated.
ALL people are greedy, you idiot. WE must limit the GOVERNMENT'S power and cotrol; that way INDIVIDUALS with agendas cannot wield that power over us!!!
There will ALWAYS be powerful people who control what the govt. does; limit the govt., and you limit those people's control.
I know the insurance industry is being blamed for trying to kill this legislation; but it is pretty much bought and paid for at this point, as is Pharma ---- they are both relatively silent about a bill that a bunch of you idiot liberals think is gonna teach them a lesson; I guaranty they are gonna do just fine; otherwise we'd see LOTS of ads on TV against these things; we're not seeing them; in fact, the only ads I'm seeing are in support - think about it naive lemmings; open your closed little minds, and see that the people that brought you the housing catastrophe are engineering an encore with healthcare!
Bad Corporations!!!
bull .
Bad government.
I'm sorry, apparently I was wrong; the insurance company's have gotten on the wrong side of at least some in government. Based on the following, who has the REAL power:
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Health Insurers Fear Probe By House Dems Is Reprisal for Opposing Part of Obama's Plan
Reps. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., and Bart Stupak, D-Mich., sent a letter warning health insurers that the House Energy and Commerce Committee is "examining executive compensation and other business practices of the health industry."
In a move some fear is a reprisal for opposing President Obama's health care plan, Democrats sent 52 letters to health insurers requesting financial records for a House committee's investigation.
Reps. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., and Bart Stupak, D-Mich., sent a letter warning health insurers that the House Energy and Commerce Committee is "examining executive compensation and other business practices of the health industry."
Waxman, chairman of the committee, and Stupak, chairman of the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee did not inform their Republican counterparts of their plans.
Health insurers have until Sept. 4 to provide Congress a detailed list of every employee who made over a $1 million dollars a year between 2003 and 2008. Democrats also want do ents about conferences and any events held off company property as well as the types of transportation, lodging, food, entertainment and even gifts exchanged.
Raising the intimidation stakes: the Waxman letter offers insurers no explanation of what is being investigated or why.
Industry insiders fear the beginning of reprisals for anyone daring to dissent from the Obama agenda. One said it feels like a reprisal audit by the IRS.
With raucous health care town halls unfolding nationwide during the August congressional recess and polls showing increased opposition to a government-run insurance program or "public option," neither Waxman nor Stupak nor their staffs would comment on this story. But it's no secret that Democrats blame anti-reform ads on the private health insurance industry and its supporters.
Private health insurers warn that a public option could put them at a compe ive disadvantage and even out of business, but they insist they support health care reform in general.
A spokesman for Stupak told The Associated Press Tuesday night that 52 letters had been sent to health insurers with $2 billion or more in annual premiums. He said letters were not dispatched to other industry groups, some of which have been airing television advertising in support of Obama's call for legislation.
But Robert Zirkelbach, spokesman for the American Health Insurance Plans, said Democrats on the panel hoped to "silence the health insurance industry and distract attention away from the fact that the American people are rejecting a government-run plan" as part of Obama's planned overhaul.
Zirkelbach said it would be up to individual companies to decide whether to turn the records over.
Spokesmen for three large insurance companies, Aetna, UnitedHealth Group Inc. and WellPoint Inc., confirmed the firms had received the letters but declined comment.
And so it begins...
Sounds like your talking about government.
Last edited by SouthernFried; 08-20-2009 at 10:15 PM.
Ok, I've amended my post... it still sounds like your talking about the government.
I'd rather have health care services provided for money than for altruism.
Last edited by Yonivore; 08-21-2009 at 08:24 PM.
Expanding Medicare to cover everybody and with govt as single-payer (and single-buyer of drugs, as exists in other countries) is the perfect solution. Medicare has 4% overheads.
I read one estimate that that would reduce the for-profit s bag, parasitical insurance companies by 70%, bankrupting quite a few.
Notice how investors bid up the for-profit insurance companies stocks when it was heard that the bill may pass without a public insurance.
Uh, Medicare is broken and is broke. Hardly the model for an efficient or effective health care system.
and your model is?
blah, blah, blah...."and really I am not repeating what a washington lobbyist has directed mindless asswipes across the country to think and say" blah, blah, blah.
Free Market Health Care, no more government controls on the commerce of health care; if my doctor wants to do house calls and provide care in exchange for fresh eggs, he should be able to do that. If he wants to be a "concierge" doctor in the Hamptons, like that silly new show, he should be able to do that. Go to school, get competent, receive a license to practice your trade and then, go out an do it.
Tort Reform, reduce the cost to doctor's and hospitals to actually do their jobs.
Privately-purchased a la carte Insurance (no more employer-based Group Insurance Programs), pay me a wage and let me buy my insurance; if I want only catastrophic, I only get catastrophic. If I want a $15,000.00 deductible, let me have it.
Tax-deferred/free health care savings accounts that I can continue to put money in and only use for health care expenditures. (but, if they'd just pass the Fair Tax, that wouldn't be necessary).
First four things off the top of my head.
You think Medicare is fiscally sound? Who's been listening to lies?
Here, here, ......I believe there are people who lead a life of service.....I just don't think any of them work for the goverment.
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