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3+ is an arbitrary number you came up with. If pop had one less ring, you'd have said 2+. Just sayin
You make it seem like that was PJax's fault. I'd like to see Pop take that team any farther than Phil did
3+ is an arbitrary number you came up with. If pop had one less ring, you'd have said 2+. Just sayin
Phil hands down....
BTW Phil (sitting in an orthopedic chair) intimidates the out of Pop from the sidelines.
imagine i these two were coaches together
the master of the offense and the master of the defense
but give pop jordan and pippen and shaq and kobe and i bet he wins 10 championships himself
but got to give a slite edge to the zenmaster just because he has more championships but we havent seen pop really coach without talent and we saw phil lead his medicore laker team to a 7th seed in 2 seasons, and the spurs were pretty much aboive medicore this year and they were riding the 2nd seed pretty much the whole season but right now its phil jackson head to head because he leads pop 4-1 against each other in the playoffs
if phil coached the spurs...they'd win 3 in a row.
Or, for heaven's sakes:back-to-back.
The fact that Pop has never won a back to back or even made back to back Finals basically removes him from the discussion IMHO.
Pop has never got a hand of cards including Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, or the combo of Shaquill O'Neal and Kobe Bryant.
As per usual: The good Dr with the voice of sound reason.
The fact that you are stupid basically removes your opinion.
other then the 4-1 series record head to head, it's pretty equal.
fixedThe Spurs FO never goes with medium risk high reward characters with chemistry issues over less risky options because of Pop's brownnosed style of coaching,
Christ, puttin' Pop under a microscope like this ain't worked out real well for Spurs Fandom.
Shoulda left him under that rock where he was.
jejejeje!!!
As per usual: Cul, slobbin the "good doctor's" knob every chance he gets...
Pop has never had the luxury of having 2 1st Team All-NBA players on his teams like Phil has with the Bulls and the early 2000's Lakers. When you have 2 of the top 5 players on the same team, you will always have the upper hand.
This last championship would have been Phil's most impressive IMO had it not been for all the unfortunate injuries the other teams were faced with (Orlando losing Nelson, Celtics without KG, Rockets losing Yao, Utah with injuries ALL YEAR, Spurs with no Manu, Dallas with a gimpy Josh Howard)
Still, the Lakers won it all fair and square with the hand that was dealt them and they get all the glory that comes with that, but Phil has yet to knock off a dominant team at full strength without having at least 2 of the Top 5 guys in the league together. Pop finished off a healthy Pistons team, something Phil couldn't do EVEN with a STACKED team of Shaq, Kobe, Malone, and Payton.
10>4 obviously, but 2 of 5 of the best players is better than 1 of 5 of the best players. Put Kobe or a 90's Jordan on the Spurs this year (say the Spurs swapped Manu for them)and the Spurs win the next 3 les letting Duncan (even a slightly past his prime Duncan) and Pop retire with 7 rings.
Anyone who doesn't say Phil is better (let alone the best) is a ing re of epic proportions.
Phil Jackson is the G.O.A.T. plain and simple, not even red auerbach can top that. no arguements here
First you belittle the championship by complaining about injuries, then try and make it seem like you're not a whiney by saying they won it fair and square. It's quite obvious you think they only won because of injuries, which makes you stupid. The Lakers were clearly the best team in the NBA last season. it was obvious.
And Malone was injured in those finals. As was Horace Grant. This means that the Lakers had to start Slava Medvedenko. Slava isnn't gonna get it done in the Finals. So considering Malone was injured and not playing, it isn't fair for to say Malone as part of the stacked team. It was more like: Kobe Shaq Payton and Slava
Hey, Dunc!!!!!!!!!! Where the have ya been, youngster?
I cannot wait for the season to start.....Yet another who is the better coach poll. Atleast change the coaches from time to time.
Dude, were it not for Ben Wallace and the NBA's bias towards big men when it comes to Defensive Player of the Year, Bruce Bowen would have 3 or more DPOY awards. On a Spurs team that cashes it's checks with defense, having Bruce Bowen alongside Tim Duncan is as potent as any 1-2 punch in the league.
Nice try though, but the Spurs had a perennial mvp candidate and a perennial DPOY candidate playing side by side for years.
Bottom line is Phil wins this REGARDLESS of how you try and spin it. Typical Spurs fan response to completely ignore that Bruce Bowen was a defensive superstar, and in many ways was the backbone of the Spurs defense...for years.
Pretty sad.
Phil wins by default because of his championships but don't forget that he's also had a longer coaching career than Pop. Also I think Pop has had to develope and acquire more talent in order to win his championships than PJ.
Last edited by TD4THREE; 08-22-2009 at 07:30 PM.
Lmao my bad I meant to put Kobe and MJ.
He had Duncan and Ginobili who are better then Snaq and Kobme.
At the very least equal.
2003 proof
2004 a flukey last second shot the only thing stopping a 2-0 sweep by Dunkar/Ginobili
yea. Manu was a real superstar back in 03 and 04.
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