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USC & Texas. Notre Dame has tradition but not much more these days.
............besides Utsa of course!!!What college football program would you consider the cream of the crop? I would go with Notre Dame.....if they got their act back together.........based on tradition and the endowment that school/team has.
USC & Texas. Notre Dame has tradition but not much more these days.
any of the old swc schools
OMG - Notre is no longer in this discussion. Texas is a great school but not to that level yet tradition-wise. USC is a nice pick. Maybe Oklahoma. Alabama. Ohio St. Michigan. So I guess I'll go with USC, based on recent success and the fact that it's in a huge market, thus lot's of exposure and attention.
lebomb again making a worthless thread
You with another worthless response. If you didnt have a good answer, WTF did you comment?
pretty much the reason id pick them
They have tradition, and their own crappy network, but they haven't done anything to warrant the exposure they continue to get. Give it about 10 more years for their old-ass fan base to start dying off, and they'll be nothing.
Add in the fact that less and less people are Catholic(or care about going to a Catholic school), their tough entrance requirements(it's still a good academic school, something to be proud of), the fact that they aren't in a conference, and you come up with a school that just isn't attractive to top-flight recruits anymore. There is also something to be said for the sh!tty coaches that have been run through there since Holtz left.
Bowl record since 95: 1-9 (most were blow-outs) LOL
Record since 96':85-62 LOL
Every school has their down cycle.........no one, and I mean no one stays on top forever. Look when UT was down in the late 80's and 90's. A&M kicked that ass on a regular. Look at Nebraska now? They used to stomp everyone. So, yeah.....Notre Dame has been down for a decade. See what happens when they start winning again. You know people are bandwagon........lose and they drop your ass like a bad dream. Win and eveyone comes out of the wood work wearing your apparel. Anyhow, I still think if Notre Dame starts winning again.........many coaches would drop what they are doing and run to that job. That is how prestigious I think it is. This IMHO though.
In no particular order:
Oklahoma
Ohio State
Texas
USC
LSU
Florida
Florida State
Texas aTm
Notre Dame
Michigan
Bama
Nebraska
fine...a sig bet. 6 months...deal.
Lou Holtz says ND plays Florida for the big trophy...
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/ncfnation...itle-game.html
somebody should take him out to pasture...
Love how the studio guy reacts when ole' Lou picks the Domers to be in the national championship game. Had he been drinking coffee it would have been all over the table. Lou is entertaining, sure, but his "domer homer" analysis is laughable at best. Senility may be setting in, but I still like watching him foam and spit all over everyone when he gets fired up doing his takes on ESPN. The guy is hilarious.
there is no one "most prestigious". there are just several such as bama, lsu, florida, usc, oklahoma, texas, notre dame, penn state, ohio state, michigan. they all have the right mixture of pageantry, tradition and success. of course, some of them have cheated a lot more than the others have.
pretty much this.
To me, "most prestigious" isn't the same thing as "most desirable" or "best situation for immediate success."
I would say that Notre Dame is still the most prestigious school and football program for a head football coach to take on. The tradition is there, the fan base is there, the legacy is there. If you're successful, not only are you deified by the campus and everyone associated with the school, but you're pretty much canonized by all of college football. Notre Dame might not get the best recruiting classes anymore. They might not be a dominant team year in and year out, but when it comes to prestige, I think they still stand on top of the hill.
And, I'm a Michigan alum who hates Notre Dame football.
How would you like to be the guy who replaces Joe Pa?
I'm sorry Notre Dame students don't get to have sex.
its interesting...i have a friend, whom went to notre dame, and we make a bet each year on the game. the loser pays for an hour of unlimited drinking (till the winner pukes or time is up)...we like to call it power hour. the last three years i've given him 14, 21 & 25. i offered 18 this year and he said no...thats a ton of points for a supposed good team at home.
1) notre dame won't do this year
2) USC will them up
3) i gave you zero points
Maybe not this year...........but things go in cycles. USC will be decent one day and Notre Dame will be back on top. Book it. And, I dont really care for either team, I just know it will happen.
of course notre dame will be good again...thats obvious. but there are such things as trends...how do you think some teams build huge advantages head to head and in bowls over time? they have their ups and downs like everyone...but more ups than downs, relatively. thats what i'm hoping for USC. i think they've made some great ground on the irish...and they won't give it all back.
I hear ya.............. Its all subjective anyhow. Just wanted to see what everyone opinion is. Notre Dame seems like the Kentucky basketball job when it comes to football.
Exactly what I was thinking. It's going to be hard to replace a legend like that. The coach that replaces him will be in the spotlight for sure, at least on and around the campus area.
This is ESPNS rankings for all time most prestigious programs........................... Hmmmmmm???
1. Oklahoma Sooners
Total points: 1,968
Positives: When you look at the big picture of college football since 1936, no program has achieved greatness as consistently as Oklahoma. We didn't even count the fact that Oklahoma owns the longest win streak in FBS history (47) or leads the nation with a .765 winning percentage since World War II. The 1956 Oklahoma team catapulted the Sooners past Notre Dame to the top of the Prestige Rankings, and it's been in the top spot ever since. OU's seven national les have spanned four decades. The Sooners have finished in the final poll's top 5 an astounding 29 times. But the real fuel for OU's rise to the top of our rankings has been its conference dominance. The Sooners finished the regular season with at least a share of their conference's best record a stunning 39 times, seven more than any other program in the country.
Negatives: Oklahoma was downright mediocre in the '90s. The Sooners ranked 51st in that decade's rankings, directly behind Hawaii. OU also didn't have a single major bowl win and suffered through three losing seasons. The Oklahoma program also has been punished by the NCAA to varying degrees six separate times in its history.
Through the decades: Through 1958: 1st | 1968: 1st | 1978: 1st | 1988: 1st | 1998: 1st
Did you know? Oklahoma has been voted the No. 1 team in the country by the AP a record 97 times, including twice this past season to break a tie with Notre Dame.
2. USC Trojans
Total points: 1,897
Positives: With 513 points in 11 seasons (almost 100 more than its nearest compe or), the Trojans have been the undisputed king of the BCS era. USC's special 2004 season accounted for 118 points, which is one point shy of '93 Florida State's Prestige Rankings season record. It has enjoyed the services of an astounding 17 consensus All-Americans in the last seven seasons. USC has finished in the top 3 in annual Prestige Points in each of those seven seasons. USC also is the top-scoring program in the 1970s and is tied with Notre Dame and Ohio State for the most all-time Heisman winners with seven.
Negatives: It's amazing how USC's recent success has overshadowed its mediocrity in the 1990s. The Trojans didn't enjoy a single 10-win season between 1989 and 2001. It is barely over .500 (37-35) in the last five years of that stretch before Pete Carroll came to town. If you look at just the '90s, USC has fewer Prestige Points than schools like Syracuse, Wisconsin and BYU. USC was also docked for minus-29 points on our probation scoring system.
Through the decades: Through 1958: 8th | 1968: 5th | 1978: 3rd | 1988: 3rd | 1998: 5th
Did you know? If you altered our points system such that it did not include any points for best conference records or conference le game bonuses, USC would edge Oklahoma for the top spot by 11 points.
3. Ohio State Buckeyes
Total points: 1,655
Positives: Dripping with football tradition, Ohio State has been a fixture in the Prestige Rankings for the past half-century. In 1968-69, the Buckeyes racked up 190 points alone. As a point of reference, that's more than the highly successful Boise State program has earned in the last decade combined. OSU is the No. 5 program in the 1970s, and it could have been much higher had it not been for its "Ten-Year War" with Michigan during that time. Even for all the flack that John Cooper received for his 2-10-1 record against Michigan, he is responsible for a boatload of NFL 1st-round draft picks. The recent knock on OSU has been its failure to win the big bowl games, but that hasn't stopped them from finishing in the top 5 in all but two of the last seven seasons. Plus, the five-time national champions should like their spot in the Prestige Rankings ahead of their longtime rival to the north.
Negatives: The Buckeyes would have been a threat for the top spot in our rankings if not for the lack of dominating seasons in the '80s after Woody Hayes was fired. And if they had been able to knock off Florida and LSU in the two recent BCS National Championship Games, the Buckeyes would have really been nipping at USC's heels for the BCS-era crown.
Through the decades: Through 1958: 5th | 1968: 6th | 1978: 6th | 1988: 6th | 1998: 6th
Did you know? Ohio State has just five losing seasons since 1936 (and just two since 1960). That's the fewest among any program that's been around that long.
4. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Total points: 1,579
Positives: A true blue blood of the sport, Notre Dame is synonymous with college football. The Fighting Irish won four national les in a seven-year span in the '40s. The Golden Domers had another golden era in the '70s, when a national-high 18 consensus All-Americans helped them win it all two more times. Notre Dame was also the early dominator in our Prestige Rankings through 1955. The next season was a historic one, with ND's Paul Hornung winning the Heisman Trophy despite being on a 2-8 Irish squad. Notre Dame is still the all-time leader in consensus All-Americans with 77.
Negatives: Notre Dame haters would be quick to notice that the Irish earned almost a third of their Prestige Points before 1950. Of course, Notre Dame's recent struggles have been well do ented, but we have to continue to pile it on here. ND has just one bowl win since 1994. Since 2000, Notre Dame has a third of the first-round draft picks that Boston College has (2 to 6). And since 1998, Notre Dame ranks 30th in the country, behind four non-BCS schools and both Oregon teams.
Through the decades: Through 1958: 2nd | 1968: 2nd | 1978: 2nd | 1988: 4th | 1998: 2nd
Did you know? Since 1995, Notre Dame has fewer consensus All-Americans than Northwestern.
5. Nebraska Cornhuskers
Total points: 1,553
Positives: Nebraska has five national les, including two sets of back-to-back les (1970-71, 1994-95). They followed up the 1994-95 les with a shared le in 1997. The Huskers also have enjoyed the services of three Heisman winners: RB Johnny Rodgers (1972), RB Mike Rozier (1983) and QB Eric Crouch (2001). Nebraska ranks in the top five in numerous categories such as major bowl appearances (30, T-2nd), 10-win seasons (23, 3rd), bowl appearances (45, 4th), conference les (26, T-4th), weeks at AP No. 1 (70, 5th) and major bowl wins (14, 5th).
Negatives: Nebraska isn't among the elite in the first three decades of the AP poll era. The Huskers are in 35th place in the Prestige Rankings when the 1950s began. Things didn't turn around quickly after that either. In fact, Nebraska had 17 losing seasons in a 21-season span between 1941 and 1961. More recently, Nebraska has produced only two first-round picks this decade, while finishing the season unranked in four of its last five seasons.
Through the decades: Through 1958: 49th | 1968: 23rd | 1978: 8th | 1988: 7th | 1998: 4th
Did you know? Nebraska had a record 35 consecutive bowl appearances from 1969 to 2003. The longest current bowl-appearance streak belongs to Florida State, which has 27.
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