CIA staged mock executions

[LnGrrrR]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/...ort/index.html

Newsweek also said that, according to its sources citing the inspector-general's report, interrogators staged mock executions to try to frighten detainees into talking. In one instance, Newsweek reported, a gun was fired in a room next to one terrorism suspect so he would think another prisoner was being killed.

What a surprise! You allow one thing, and inevitably, it will lead to more abuses...

And just in case anyone isn't aware, mock executions are illegal.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/fiv...f-torture5.htm

[Bender]

but Jack Bauer uses mock executions to get what he wants.

[hater]

I have no problem with mock executions. In fact they should be used more often in the day to day

[IceColdBrewski]

Pretend killings?

Oh the horror.

[doobs]

Seriously, what's wrong with this?

[clambake]

using this to make people confess to something they didn't do?

brilliant. so much for intelligence.

[LnGrrrR]

Before you go and say, "What's so bad about mock executions?", please, look at the data, especially those that have survived such incidents.

Is it the new feeling of conservatives that the ONLY thing that defines torture is permanent physical disfigurement? Is there no such thing as torture that is mental in nature?

[doobs]

Before you go and say, "What's so bad about mock executions?", please, look at the data, especially those that have survived such incidents.

Is it difficult to survive a mock execution?

Is it the new feeling of conservatives that the ONLY thing that defines torture is permanent physical disfigurement? Is there no such thing as torture that is mental in nature?

Scaring a guy is not nearly as bad as actually hurting a guy. Apples and oranges, don't you think?

[nkdlunch]

Scaring a guy is not nearly as bad as actually hurting a guy. Apples and oranges, don't you think?

is that so? let's see. If you HAD to pick between spanking your child or performing a mock execution to discipline him, which one would you pick?

[LnGrrrR]

Scaring a guy is not nearly as bad as actually hurting a guy. Apples and oranges, don't you think?

Point blank: Do you believe there is such a thing as mental torture?

[doobs]

is that so? let's see. If you HAD to pick between spanking your child or performing a mock execution to discipline him, which one would you pick?

Do you actually hurt your children when you spank them? That's child abuse, man.

[DarrinS]

If you want information from an Al Qaeda prisoner, all you need to do is ask politely.

[nkdlunch]

Do you actually hurt your children when you spank them? That's child abuse, man.

answer my question

[doobs]

answer my question

You answer mine.

I can play this game all day.

[nkdlunch]

You answer mine.

I can play this game all day.

of course you hurt your kids when you spank them. why they cry then? ok now answer my question

[doobs]

Point blank: Do you believe there is such a thing as mental torture?

Yes, if it results in permanent severe psychological damage. But I also think it's important to observe a distinction between physical torture and psychological torture. Apples and oranges, like I said.

[clambake]

i don't care if it's accurate.....i want that confession!

[doobs]

of course you hurt your kids when you spank them. why they cry then? ok now answer my question

If you're doing it right, you're not actually hurting them. They cry out of embarrassment, sadness, anger . . . whatever . . . but it shouldn't be because of physical pain. So you're an abuser. Good to know.

You're the one comparing spanking to physical torture, right? What a dumb thing to say. Of course I would rather spank my child than subject him to a mock execution. But I'd rather subject him to a mock execution than rip his fingernails out.

Do you see why your question is so ing stupid?

[nkdlunch]

Scaring a guy is not nearly as bad as actually hurting a guy. Apples and oranges, don't you think?

Of course I would rather spank my child than subject him to a mock execution.

thank you for participating

[LnGrrrR]

Yes, if it results in permanent severe psychological damage. But I also think it's important to observe a distinction between physical torture and psychological torture. Apples and oranges, like I said.

Then mock executions are torture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mock_execution

Go to any reputable website for psychiatrists/psychologists/medical professionals, and not one of them will deign to say that mock executions aren't a form of mental torture. They're forbidden by the Army Manual for interrogation as well.

Of course, some countries love using it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-clicked.html

[LnGrrrR]

If you want information from an Al Qaeda prisoner, all you need to do is ask politely.

Do you believe there is such a thing as mental torture?

[LnGrrrR]

You're the one comparing spanking to physical torture, right? What a dumb thing to say. Of course I would rather spank my child than subject him to a mock execution. But I'd rather subject him to a mock execution than rip his fingernails out.

Why must it be an 'either or' equation?

So, because we're not ripping out their fingernails, it therefore doesn't equal torture?

[SonOfAGun]

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
-- George Orwell

[LnGrrrR]

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

-- George Orwell

The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them. - George Orwell

[MannyIsGod]

Yes, if it results in permanent severe psychological damage. But I also think it's important to observe a distinction between physical torture and psychological torture. Apples and oranges, like I said.

So when the people who have studied the effects of mock executions say that is exactly what happens do you simply disregard their opinions or do you stick to what you just said?