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    This is how it works. Only people in the gate is counted. But also even people in the gate will NOT be counted if they come from the soccer games. In Greece if you go to a home soccer game of your club and then also there is a basketball home game then you are only counted in soccer attendance but you can also attend the basketball game.

    Just in one game last year Panathinaikos had 13,000 fans from the soccer game at the basketball game and none were counted for the basketball game attendance.
    So they don't pay to watch the basketball games, just soccer.

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    lol 92-69
    lol 108-77

    lol Greece

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    So they don't pay to watch the basketball games, just soccer.

    I take it back you are also an idiot.

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    lol 92-69
    lol 108-77

    lol Greece
    WTF is this bull ?

    2004 Olympics

    USA 77 - Greece 71

    2006 World Championship

    Greece 101 - USA 95

    2008 Olympics

    USA 92 - Greece 69

    Stop making up your pathetic lies.

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    WTF is this bull ?

    2004 Olympics

    USA 77 - Greece 71

    2006 World Championship

    Greece 101 - USA 95

    2008 Olympics

    USA 92 - Greece 69

    Stop making up your pathetic lies.
    Pathetic lies? , boy..don't you even know your own team's scores? 92-69..olympics..World University Games, USA beats Greece 108-77. I could also say 88-80, if you'd like...would that be better?

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    This is still going on??

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    Pathetic lies? , boy..don't you even know your own team's scores? 92-69..olympics..World University Games, USA beats Greece 108-77. I could also say 88-80, if you'd like...would that be better?
    World University Games?


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    I take it back you are also an idiot.
    I'd say the Greeks are idiots if they can't keep a count of who walks through the doors of their arenas.

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    Greece is currently hosting a 4-team tourney leading up to the Euro championships. Host nation plus Russia, serbia, and Lithuania. They are playing in the Olympic Arena (18000+).

    Greece v. defending Euro champs Russia right now. Wait for a long view from under the basket or a high view during a time out. Estimate the attendance for yourselves.

    http://www.justin.tv/imtestingagain

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    I'd say the Greeks are idiots if they can't keep a count of who walks through the doors of their arenas.
    Ok that's 1,2... damn.. hold on I have to start over.. 1,2,3... CRAP!

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    Greece is currently hosting a 4-team tourney leading up to the Euro championships. Host nation plus Russia, serbia, and Lithuania. They are playing in the Olympic Arena (18000+).

    Greece v. defending Euro champs Russia right now. Wait for a long view from under the basket or a high view during a time out. Estimate the attendance for yourselves.

    http://www.justin.tv/imtestingagain
    That arena is 20,000 plus you idiot.

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    This thread is hilarious! +1000

    And it never gets old.

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    That arena is 20,000 plus you idiot.
    Right, and there are like 3,000 people in the stands.

    I know, I can't count the invisible season ticket holders.
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 08-25-2009 at 04:28 PM.

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    Right, and there are like 3,000 people in the stands.

    I know, I can't count the invisible season ticket holders.
    1,000 dumb ass. You NEVER EVER get any facts right.


    There are fires near there idiot. The fires are all the way to the edge of north part of Athens area. That is exactly where OAKA arena is at idiot. Hardly anyone is even allowed around. It was just people related to the game in some way that was allowed in there you tool.

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    1,000 dumb ass. You NEVER EVER get any facts right.
    You're saying there's only 1,000 people watching the game in a 20,000 seat arena?

    I stand corrected.


    There are fires near there idiot. The fires are all the way to the edge of north part of Athens area. That is exactly where OAKA arena is at idiot. Hardly anyone is even allowed around. It was just people related to the game in some way that was allowed in there you tool.
    There were 1,000 people related to the game?


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    You're saying there's only 1,000 people watching the game in a 20,000 seat arena?

    I stand corrected.


    There were 1,000 people related to the game?

    There are 4 national teams playing there dumb ass. All the press from 4 countries, all the basketball systems people on all levels of 4 countries, all the families of all the players and so forth. You have established you are an ignorant moron. So just keep confirming it every day like you always do.

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    Thousands!

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    What is the reasoning or benefit of them not being able to count the season ticket holders?

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    What is the reasoning or benefit of them not being able to count the season ticket holders?
    They apparently don't count no-shows in reported attendance. Per KBP they also do not club supporters who attend games with their tickets from the soccer team associated with clubs. Per one of his own posts, a Panathinaikos game was attended by over 13000 such non-paying supporters that were not included in the reported attendance. What that says about the ability to sell seats to basketball games in Greece is obvious; even the most popular team in the country is giving away tickets that have not been sold.

    What is completely obvious and irrefutable is that Greek basketball, outside of Panathinaikos and Olympiacos, is a poorly attended sport, with crowds typically less than 2,000 and often well below 1,000. Many leagues around Europe have much, much greater attendance. Our fake Greek friend is greatly upset by the reporting of these simple facts and responds to them with his typical insults and profanity.

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    Greeks are not advanced enough to have turnstiles.

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    What is the reasoning or benefit of them not being able to count the season ticket holders?
    Because they do not believe season ticket holders count as attendance. Just like in NBA you see Heat or Grizzlies game or even Rockets game and they give "attendance" number of 15,000 and it looks like maybe at most 5,000 are in the arena.

    In Greece that would be considered a lie to record the number of tickets sold because in future someone would mistake as how many were in the arena. Actualy Greece is right on how they count it and the other countries are wrong. It should not be called "attendance" just because a ticket was sold yet just look at NBA no matter what it is called "attendance" even if the people never show up just because a ticket was sold.

    In Greece there are two categories "tickets sold" and "attendance" and actually Greece is right on that and the other places are wrong.

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    They apparently don't count no-shows in reported attendance. Per KBP they also do not club supporters who attend games with their tickets from the soccer team associated with clubs. Per one of his own posts, a Panathinaikos game was attended by over 13000 such non-paying supporters that were not included in the reported attendance. What that says about the ability to sell seats to basketball games in Greece is obvious; even the most popular team in the country is giving away tickets that have not been sold.

    What is completely obvious and irrefutable is that Greek basketball, outside of Panathinaikos and Olympiacos, is a poorly attended sport, with crowds typically less than 2,000 and often well below 1,000. Many leagues around Europe have much, much greater attendance. Our fake Greek friend is greatly upset by the reporting of these simple facts and responds to them with his typical insults and profanity.
    Stop making up idiot. Where the did you get the idea that you can go to the basketball games free? No one goes to the games free unless they are part of the club. There are discounts for relatives and people that used to be part of the club and things like that. But you do NOT go for free just because you have a soccer stub.

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    They apparently don't count no-shows in reported attendance. Per KBP they also do not club supporters who attend games with their tickets from the soccer team associated with clubs. Per one of his own posts, a Panathinaikos game was attended by over 13000 such non-paying supporters that were not included in the reported attendance. What that says about the ability to sell seats to basketball games in Greece is obvious; even the most popular team in the country is giving away tickets that have not been sold.

    What is completely obvious and irrefutable is that Greek basketball, outside of Panathinaikos and Olympiacos, is a poorly attended sport, with crowds typically less than 2,000 and often well below 1,000. Many leagues around Europe have much, much greater attendance. Our fake Greek friend is greatly upset by the reporting of these simple facts and responds to them with his typical insults and profanity.
    And again you make up nonsense. Panathinaikos and Olympiacos are only clubs with good attendance?

    Aris has almost as much as they do and usually almost every year PAOK is 1-3 in the league and many years they are number 1 in attendance.

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    Because they do not believe season ticket holders count as attendance. Just like in NBA you see Heat or Grizzlies game or even Rockets game and they give "attendance" number of 15,000 and it looks like maybe at most 5,000 are in the arena.

    In Greece that would be considered a lie to record the number of tickets sold because in future someone would mistake as how many were in the arena. Actualy Greece is right on how they count it and the other countries are wrong. It should not be called "attendance" just because a ticket was sold yet just look at NBA no matter what it is called "attendance" even if the people never show up just because a ticket was sold.

    In Greece there are two categories "tickets sold" and "attendance" and actually Greece is right on that and the other places are wrong.
    So do you have the tickets sold numbers for the clubs?

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    Because they do not believe season ticket holders count as attendance. Just like in NBA you see Heat or Grizzlies game or even Rockets game and they give "attendance" number of 15,000 and it looks like maybe at most 5,000 are in the arena.

    In Greece that would be considered a lie to record the number of tickets sold because in future someone would mistake as how many were in the arena. Actualy Greece is right on how they count it and the other countries are wrong. It should not be called "attendance" just because a ticket was sold yet just look at NBA no matter what it is called "attendance" even if the people never show up just because a ticket was sold.

    In Greece there are two categories "tickets sold" and "attendance" and actually Greece is right on that and the other places are wrong.
    Greeks are also wrong because attendance is supposed to be the number of people who attend the game.

    Their numbers are always wrong.

    Greeks are wrong.

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