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    Summer Forecast: Best newcomer
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    There has been much player movement this offseason, with big names changing teams and conference pecking orders. So, on the second day of our Summer Forecast series, we ask 53 of ESPN's best basketball minds: Who will be the best newcomer this season?

    Here's the voting breakdown:

    2009-10 predictions: Best newcomer

    RANK PLAYER VOTES

    1
    Richard Jefferson
    Small forward
    San Antonio Spurs
    Last season
    Milwaukee Bucks
    19.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg
    14

    2
    Shaquille O'Neal
    Center
    Cleveland Cavaliers
    Last season
    Phoenix Suns
    17.8 ppg, 8.4 rpg
    8

    T-3
    Ron Artest
    Small forward
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Last season
    Houston Rockets
    17.1 ppg, 5.2 rpg
    6

    T-3
    Vince Carter
    Shooting guard
    Orlando Magic
    Last season
    New Jersey Nets
    20.8 ppg, 4.7 apg
    6

    T-5
    Shawn Marion
    Small forward
    Dallas Mavericks
    Last season
    Miami/Toronto
    12.9 ppg, 8.5 rpg
    3

    T-5
    Andre Miller
    Point guard
    Portland Trail Blazers
    Last season
    Philadelphia 76ers
    16.3 ppg, 6.5 apg
    3

    T-5
    Hedo Turkoglu
    Small forward
    Toronto Raptors
    Last season
    Orlando Magic
    16.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg
    3

    T-5
    Rasheed Wallace
    Power forward
    Boston Celtics
    Last season
    Detroit Pistons
    12 ppg, 7.4 rpg
    3

    Also receiving votes: Blake Griffin (2), Emeka Okafor (2), Trevor Ariza (1), Jamal Crawford (1), Terrence Williams (1)

    The skinny

    Jefferson (14 votes)
    The first big move of the offseason will prove to be the best move, more than one-quarter of our voters said. RJ is the piece that will get the Spurs back into the West's elite. Jefferson's shooting numbers were down last season with the Bucks, but he shot 40 percent from beyond the arc and still knows how to score. Playing in a winning atmosphere certainly will help matters, too.

    Most important, perhaps, is that RJ has been healthy for the past two years -- something the Spurs' big three has not been -- and he's still on the right side of 30. If he proves to be the perfect fit, the Spurs could push the Lakers for the Western Conference crown.

    O'Neal (8 votes)
    Witness this: Seven of our voters -- and Cleveland's front office -- are banking on a motivated Shaq to take the Cavs to new heights. Although some wonder whether Shaq can take a backseat to LeBron or handle Dwight Howard come playoff time, there's no question there's still some Diesel left in the tank. Adding his post presence to a team that won 66 games last season without one makes Shaq's mission -- "Win a ring for the King" -- look highly possible.

    Artest (6 votes)
    To gain this honor, Artest is in a tough spot. When you join the defending champs, there are plenty of opportunities for downward mobility. Ordinary things can derail any le favorite ( o, injuries), perhaps a far more likely event than Ron-Ron Twittering Kobe & Co. into a funk. But with his drive and focus to earn a first le, it could be time to paint the portrait of Artest as a champion.

    Carter (6 votes)
    All things considered, many of the voters here eventually could rue not hopping onto this bandwagon. Although the "Heir Jordan" references vanished long ago, the numbers indicate Carter will be an upgrade over Turkoglu. So the Magic lose some length? How about VC's many strengths, such as his still-powerful forays to the hoop? Think his solid 3-point accuracy (38.5 percent) with the woeful Nets last season will improve when he plays alongside the best big man in the game?

    Marion (3 votes)
    Sure, he's coming off his lowest scoring average (12.9 points per game) since his rookie season, but there are three good reasons Marion earned three votes: (1) He should enjoy life in the fast lane again, this time with Jason Kidd running the break; (2) he can still defend multiple positions; and (3) there's no way he can shoot any worse from downtown than he did last season (19 percent).

    Miller (3 votes)
    The Blazers wanted Turkoglu, but landing Miller might be a blessing in disguise. He gives the team a veteran presence and, more importantly, allows Brandon Roy to play off the ball. Although he can't spread the floor with his 3-point shot, he can get the ball into the hands of those who can shoot it from deep and get the team easy baskets in transition. And if it doesn't work out, Portland can let him walk in two years.

    Turkoglu (3 votes)
    Turkoglu provided the best offseason intrigue when he nearly signed with Portland and then, at the eleventh hour, opted for Toronto. He gives the Raptors a sense of the dramatic on the court, too: His late-game heroics were special in the '09 playoffs. Yes, $53 million is a lot for a guy who shot only 41 percent from the floor (110th in the NBA) and 35 percent from behind the arc (95th) last season, but he'll take some pressure off Chris Bosh and maybe even persuade him to stay.

    Wallace (3 votes)
    No doubt Wallace needed a change of scenery after five years in Detroit. Boston is probably the perfect place for him now. He'll get to start fresh with a le contender loaded with veterans. Sheed will play a smaller role than he did with the Pistons, but he still needs to get in shape and keep his emotions in check. Either way, he is a considerable upgrade over Mikki Moore.


    The voters

    Henry Abbott (ESPN.com TrueHoop senior writer), J.A. Adande (ESPN.com senior writer), Kevin Arnovitz (ESPN.com TrueHoop Network editor), Andrew Ayres (ESPN.com NBA editor), Jon Barry (ESPN NBA analyst), Bruce Bernstein (ESPN NBA Studio Production), Alfredo Berrios (ESPN Deportes editor), Dwayne Bray (ESPN Studio Production), Jordan Brenner (ESPN Insider editor), Lisa Brooks (ESPN Stats & Information), Maurice Brooks (ESPN.com NBA editor), Chris Broussard (ESPN The Magazine senior writer), Ric Bucher (ESPN The Magazine senior writer), Michael Bucklin (ESPN Interactive Games), Kevin Calabro (ESPN NBA broadcaster), Kevin Conlon (ESPN Stats & Information), Jay Corbin (ESPN The Magazine editor), Chad Ford (ESPN Insider senior writer), LZ Granderson (ESPN The Magazine senior writer), John Hollinger (ESPN Insider senior writer), Jade Hoye (ESPN Multimedia), Michael Jackson (ESPN Stats & Information), Scoop Jackson (ESPN Page 2 columnist), Avery Johnson (ESPN NBA analyst), Eric Karabell (ESPN.com senior writer), Rob King (ESPN.com editor in chief), Seth Landman (ESPN Fantasy basketball writer), Tim Legler (ESPN NBA analyst), Nancy Lieberman (ESPN NBA analyst), Keith Lipscomb (ESPN Fantasy basketball analyst), Patricia Lowry (ESPN Studio Production), Mike Lynch (ESPN Stats & Information), Eric Neel (ESPN.com senior writer), Pete Newmann (ESPN Stats & Information), Chris Palmer (ESPN The Magazine NBA writer), Greg Pike (ESPN NBA Studio Production), Chris Ramsay (ESPN.com NBA coordinator), Dr. Jack Ramsay (ESPN NBA analyst), Adam Reisinger (ESPNDB editor), Jalen Rose (ESPN NBA analyst), Bob Salmi (ESPN NBA analyst), Chris Sheridan (ESPN Insider senior writer), Marc Stein (ESPN.com NBA senior writer), Patrick Stiegman (ESPN.com VP/Executive editor), Otto Strong (ESPN The Magazine NBA editor), Mark Summer (ESPN NBA Studio Production), David Thorpe (ESPN Insider NBA analyst), Justin Verrier (ESPN.com NBA editor), Bill Walton (ESPN NBA analyst), Royce Webb (ESPN.com NBA editor), Josh Whitling (ESPN Fantasy basketball writer), Matt Winer (ESPN NBA anchor) and Matt Wong (ESPN.com NBA editor).

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    to think McDyess is probably right behind wallace

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    Wow Artest averaged 17 points last season? He's gonna have to take a lot less shots with Kobe/Gasol in front of him.

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    RJ Is going to be worth his weight in PLATINUM to the Spurs roster this year. Or perhaps just another Larry O'Brien trophy...

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    I am glad I looked before reposting this.

    You got me D228. You got me.

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    Damn, 64 days to wait

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    to think McDyess is probably right behind wallace
    Uhh, no.

    Also receiving votes: Blake Griffin (2), Emeka Okafor (2), Trevor Ariza (1), Jamal Crawford (1), Terrence Williams (1)

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    Wow Artest averaged 17 points last season? He's gonna have to take a lot less shots with Kobe/Gasol in front of him.
    Artest took 15 shots per last year, 5.6 from 3 in 35.5 minutes.

    Ariza took 7.3 shots per, 2.3 from 3 in 24.4 minutes. Playoff time may be a better barometer, as he took 8 shots per in 31 minutes, 3.6 3s.

    Bottom line - Shots will go down across the board but efficiency will go up. Artest will never see a double team again, for example. And he's on the best passing team in the league with the most fluid offense so he'll get a lot more easy looks.

    I expect Artest to be a killer from 3 point land.

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    just over two more months and its on! .. The anticipation is killing me!!

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    I agree RJ was the best move. LA, Orl, Cle, and Bos added big names as well but they were in the championship picture before they got them.

    Spurs were circling the drain. Injuries were piling up. Eliminated in 5 by LA one year, knocked out in Round 1 by a weak Dallas team last. If they don't get impact like RJ, they were done and they knew it.

    Milwaukee execs also said were glad to send RJ away because his D is fading fast and his shot selection was awful. We'll see how he improves in SA. But people should remember that when they knock Artest's shooting.

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    Hmmm, I must need to update my firefox version because I do not see Dejuan Blair on that list.

    Brb

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    Hmmm, I must need to update my firefox version because I do not see Dejuan Blair on that list.

    Brb
    He's right there next to his ACLs.


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    He's right there next to Bynum


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    Artest took 15 shots per last year, 5.6 from 3 in 35.5 minutes.

    Ariza took 7.3 shots per, 2.3 from 3 in 24.4 minutes. Playoff time may be a better barometer, as he took 8 shots per in 31 minutes, 3.6 3s.

    Bottom line - Shots will go down across the board but efficiency will go up. Artest will never see a double team again, for example. And he's on the best passing team in the league with the most fluid offense so he'll get a lot more easy looks.

    I expect Artest to be a killer from 3 point land.
    Oh yeah I understand that, it just took me by surprise that a team with Yao and T-Mac (Granted they where both rare in action together) that he got that many shots.


    Although I think Phil should use him for his Defense, if he can get him back playing like he was before then it will be a damn good pickup.

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    RJ, Blair, Dyce and even Mahinmi easily make that list

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    He's right there next to his ACLs.

    Walton, Vujachick, Morrison


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    Walton, Vujachick, Morrison

    Vujachick the guy who has been cut of the Slovenian NT ?

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    Wow Artest averaged 17 points last season? He's gonna have to take a lot less shots with Kobe/Gasol in front of him.
    That's exactly what will make it so funny because he won't take less shots. I can just see Kobe now calling for the ball with 7 seconds left as Artest fires a 45 footer with two men on him. It's gonna be ripe.


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    Vujachick the guy who has been cut of the Slovenian NT ?
    exactly my point. Vujachick is not even worth one of Blair's ACLs

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    Milwaukee execs also said were glad to send RJ away because his D is fading fast and his shot selection was awful.
    Did they tell you over sushi or do you have a link?

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    Here are a few more that will be coming out in the next few days, that should be worth reading.

    Aug. 27: Team in turmoil/biggest turnaround
    (San Antonio and Dallas should be top 2.)

    Sept. 2: Western Conference standings
    (Lakers obviously #1, but should be interesting to see who they rank from 2-8)

    Sept. 4: Western Conference champions
    (Gee, I wonder who they'll pick?.. )

    Sept. 7: NBA champions
    (There are only 5 teams who realistically have a shot at winning, lets see who BSPN picks.)

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    Here are a few more that will be coming out in the next few days, that should be worth reading.

    Aug. 27: Team in turmoil/biggest turnaround
    (San Antonio and Dallas should be top 2.)

    Sept. 2: Western Conference standings
    (Lakers obviously #1, but should be interesting to see who they rank from 2-8)

    Sept. 4: Western Conference champions
    (Gee, I wonder who they'll pick?.. )

    Sept. 7: NBA champions
    (There are only 5 teams who realistically have a shot at winning, lets see who BSPN picks.)
    Bigget turnaround - Cavs

    WC standings - Cavs # 1

    WC champions - Cavs

    NBA Champions - Cavs

    Somehow ESPN will make this fact.

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    Artest took 15 shots per last year, 5.6 from 3 in 35.5 minutes.

    Ariza took 7.3 shots per, 2.3 from 3 in 24.4 minutes. Playoff time may be a better barometer, as he took 8 shots per in 31 minutes, 3.6 3s.

    Bottom line - Shots will go down across the board but efficiency will go up. Artest will never see a double team again, for example. And he's on the best passing team in the league with the most fluid offense so he'll get a lot more easy looks.

    I expect Artest to be a killer from 3 point land.
    Ron Artest really has never been an efficient offensive player his entire career, regardless of whether he was the #1, 2 or 3 option
    He best year, shooting-wise, was his last year in Sacramento. Outside of his two years with the Kings, where he was unquestionably a main guy in their offense, he has never shot over 43% through any year, and he shoots mostly in the 40 to 42%s.

    His 3 pt shooting was the best ever %-wise and volume-wise last year. While this could point to an improvement of his 3 pt shooting accuracy, most times it is because of a e.

    Artest, when the offense runs through him, holds on the ball way too long, and shoot questionable shots. However, the lakers have more than enough offensive firepower, he is there to defend, so his offense should be an afterthought, as long as he doesn't mess it up.

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    Bigget turnaround - Cavs

    WC standings - Cavs # 1

    WC champions - Cavs

    NBA Champions - Cavs

    Somehow ESPN will make this fact.
    That's who they want, but out of the 5 teams I was talking about, I had them as the worst team.

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