Liberals and the CIA

[LnGrrrR]

That is not what I mean. I mean real aid and comfort to their cause.

When US citizens attack other citizens for fighting against terrorism, that is aid and comfort. I'll leave you with that simple generality. I'm sure along those lines you can remember some serious examples that emboldened the enemy.

If some Americans are giving MATERIAL aid to the enemy, then yes. Slinging insults is not material aid. Hence why I brought up the point about physical aid. Ideological aid isn't usually considered as "aid and comfort" because you can twist that anyway you want it.

Heck, if a terrorist goes to Starbacks and orders a coffee before he blows himself up, did I offer him "comfort" in the form a delicious latte?

[LnGrrrR]

Verbal, and other media attacks. Sorry I didn't specify.

Do you not believe in Freedom of Speech?

[Wild Cobra]

Do you not believe in Freedom of Speech?

Do you believe in shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded theater when there is none?

[LnGrrrR]

Do you believe in shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded theater when there is none?

I love when conservatives bring this up.

When yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater, there are actual safety concerns... just like the whole outing of a CIA agent discussed in another thread.

However, being supportive of a terrorist, or against the military, does not engender any 'safety' concerns. "Emboldening" anyone is not a clearly defined action, and so we should not look to curtail freedom of speech in this area.

Surely WC, you wouldn't use that sad "Fire in a crowded theater" example to argue for the Fairness Doctrine, would you?

[Wild Cobra]

I love when conservatives bring this up.

When yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater, there are actual safety concerns... just like the whole outing of a CIA agent discussed in another thread.

However, being supportive of a terrorist, or against the military, does not engender any 'safety' concerns. "Emboldening" anyone is not a clearly defined action, and so we should not look to curtail freedom of speech in this area.

Surely WC, you wouldn't use that sad "Fire in a crowded theater" example to argue for the Fairness Doctrine, would you?

I wish I had total recall of news events. I could show you some real disturbing things. There were repeated reports in the Arab world that things the liberals were saying here, was influencing their efforts to continue attacks.

[clambake]

I wish I had total recall of news events.

that would help

I could show you some real disturbing things.

please, no more pictures of yourself.

There were repeated reports in the Arab world that things the liberals were saying here, was influencing their efforts to continue attacks.

i remember those reports, and they were confirmed to be bogus.

[Wild Cobra]

please, no more pictures of yourself.

You mean you didn't like that bowling pic? I thought that would be right up your alley.

[clambake]

You mean you didn't like that bowling pic? I thought that would be right up your alley.

please don't attempt to be cute.

[LnGrrrR]

I wish I had total recall of news events. I could show you some real disturbing things. There were repeated reports in the Arab world that things the liberals were saying here, was influencing their efforts to continue attacks.

Who cares if it "influenced" them? Aid and comfort has historically been designated as material aid and comfort, not just words of encouragement. Words are just that, words. If you want to say, "Go Arabs! I hope you kill more Americans!" every day, on every webpage, by all means go ahead. You have a right to Freedom of Speech, even stupid, racist speech that may 'embolden' or 'influence' terrorists.

[Wild Cobra]

Who cares if it "influenced" them? Aid and comfort has historically been designated as material aid and comfort, not just words of encouragement. Words are just that, words. If you want to say, "Go Arabs! I hope you kill more Americans!" every day, on every webpage, by all means go ahead. You have a right to Freedom of Speech, even stupid, racist speech that may 'embolden' or 'influence' terrorists.

OK, we disagree. Myself, I have a hard time controlling myself from beating people who support the enemy. I want to hurt them, bad. I guess you just want to discuss it with them. You're a better man than I.

[clambake]

OK, we disagree. Myself, I have a hard time controlling myself from beating people who support the enemy. I want to hurt them, bad. I guess you just want to discuss it with them. You're a better man than I.

what people?

[LnGrrrR]

OK, we disagree. Myself, I have a hard time controlling myself from beating people who support the enemy. I want to hurt them, bad. I guess you just want to discuss it with them. You're a better man than I.

I don't agree with them anymore than I do the KKK. But that doesn't mean I think we should be allwoed to go up and punch KKK members in the face either.

[Wild Cobra]

I don't agree with them anymore than I do the KKK. But that doesn't mean I think we should be allwoed to go up and punch KKK members in the face either.

I don't think we should either, but that's what my instinct is to do. Don't you have any conflicts within yourself?

[ChumpDumper]

Wild Cobra: propagandist....internet tough guy....cyberstalker....flaglot....

[clambake]

Wild Cobra: propagandist....internet tough guy....cyberstalker....flaglot....

and you forgot "welfare recipient hating welfare baby."

[TeyshaBlue]

I don't agree with them anymore than I do the KKK. But that doesn't mean I think we should be allwoed to go up and punch KKK members in the face either.

It's all I can do to keep from addressing you as "Brock".

[Wild Cobra]

I went to the Roger Hedge website to listen to his show, and he has this programming note for one of today's show notes:

CIA Issue: Liberals and the CIA

The show started 23 minutes at RadioAmerica.

[LnGrrrR]

It's all I can do to keep from addressing you as "Brock".

Haha! Feel free I love that show, and am eagerly awaiting Season 4.

[LnGrrrR]

I don't think we should either, but that's what my instinct is to do. Don't you have any conflicts within yourself?

I've admitted in another thread that, if I had a family member or friend that was being threatened, I might torture someone myself. Just the same that if someone had kidnapped my wife, I'd want to do horrible things to them.

I don't think that would necessarily make it right, and I definitely don't want to enshrine my capability to do such into law though.