this country will recover when most of the baby boomers are dead

[Wild Cobra]

IMO anybody over 55 needs to STFU and let the young ppl fix this mess

Well, I see my time is short by your clock.

[jman3000]

On a side note... my mom and dad will live forever.

[nkdlunch]

They're the goat in the anaconda's body. Once it passes through things will change big time.

just like the Civil Rights happened after the previous generation was dead or senile

[Extra Stout]

Whence comes this assumption that Gen X is somehow this paragon of virtue compared to the Baby Boomers?

[SnakeBoy]

The problem with Baby Boomers is the generation that bore them. Not the boomers. We are a generation of kids from families with several kids rather than families having fewer kids today. It was expected in the Ponzi Scheme of Social Security, that there would be even more people to pay for our benefits. It's not happening. even when we die, gen X will have the same SS issues.

Yep. We need a pyramid to make it work and those days are gone. The ever increasing lifespan is also the primary driver of increased healthcare costs. A fact no politician wants to talk about.

[SnakeBoy]

Generation X which I am in the tail end of started entering the power structure about 10 years ago. It is no coincidence that you are seeing the political landscape to change a bit. We are seeing a black president that wannabee arch conservatives want to call a communist as president.

All I have to say is that we will be hard pressed to things up worse than our preceding generation has.

All you can do to make things better is to start makin babies. The more the better.

[LnGrrrR]

All you can do to make things better is to start makin babies. The more the better.

I'm working on that patriotic duty right now! 2 more months to go!

[nkdlunch]

Whence comes this assumption that Gen X is somehow this paragon of virtue compared to the Baby Boomers?

Gen X is the main product of Baby Boomers. SO if they turned out like crap, guess who's main fault that is??

[boutons_deux]

If Baby Boomers raised the ty Gen X, then did "The Greatest Generation" up raising Baby Boomers?

Actually, just play the Nazi card, and blame Baby Boomers on Hitler.

[nkdlunch]

If Baby Boomers raised the ty Gen X, then die "The Greatest Generation" up raising Baby Boomers?

Actually, just play the Nazi card, and blame Baby Boomers on Hitler.

Again, I am not saying Baby Boomers were a failure. On the contrary. They were a success for the most part, compared to their previous gen.

What I am saying is that for better or worse, baby boomers are a drag to this country now.

A. the sooner all realize this, the better
B. Baby Boomers need to let the younger gen take charge now

since B is not gonna happen, hence the le of my thread

[TeyshaBlue]

We get it. Old people are a drag on society.

Ok. You're in charge. Get busy.

[coyotes_geek]

Let's just go Logan's Run on society.

[TeyshaBlue]

Let's just go Logan's Run on society.

I know. I was just waiting for someone to post a carousel moment.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

IMO anybody over 50 needs to STFU and let the young ppl fix this mess

you know. i think you're right. obama is 47. 50 in 2012.

[LnGrrrR]

Let's just go Logan's Run on society.

I've got that movie sitting on my table at home. Go Netflix!

[SnakeBoy]

What I am saying is that for better or worse, baby boomers are a drag to this country now.

Here ya go...

[coyotes_geek]

I've got that movie sitting on my table at home. Go Netflix!

Love netflix. Whoever thought that idea up is a freaking genius.

[DarrinS]

Whence comes this assumption that Gen X is somehow this paragon of virtue compared to the Baby Boomers?

+1


And I'm not a baby boomer.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Whence comes this assumption that Gen X is somehow this paragon of virtue compared to the Baby Boomers?

No none is saying that. What is beig said is that the baby boomers suck and Gen X can only improve from there.

All you can do to make things better is to start makin babies. The more the better.

The only reason why its now a 'ponzi scheme' is because the SS surplus that was built up over 50 years was raped. Its akin to pulling money out of your IRA constantly starting at 30 and then wondering why you dont have at 65.

The fund was designed to garner interest while payouts were low ie before the baby boomers started to age to have the money available later. Its why they set up a separate fund from the general fund.

Well those ers have been taking money out of their IRA the whole time.

[TeyshaBlue]

No none is saying that. What is beig said is that the baby boomers suck and Gen X can only improve from there.

That arguement has already been destroyed once, yet you cling to it like a life vest.

[TeyshaBlue]

That arguement has already been destroyed once, yet you cling to it like a life vest.

Here, let me do it again.

All I am doing is attributing events that occur when a particular generation is between the ages of 30 and 50 to try and demonstrate the actions of said generation. Your dog must've come up with the media plan because its pretty damn stupid, I don't see a better idea than mine.

What you are doing is attributing events to a particular generation to try (and fail) to demonstrate the actions of said generation.

You probably could infinitely regress on anything as you demonstate a lack of critical thought.
You posit your "position", such that it is, as a zero sum game while stringing together a nebulous collection of "trends". You neglect influences outside of your narrow data set, as if the world, external to the baby boomers, exerts no influence whatsoever. You seem to negate the fact that while boomers did indeed rise to some influence, influence which you've yet to quantify in any meaningful manner, we did so hand in hand with our parents and older brothers and sisters.
You omit obvious accomplishments in civil rights, for instance, while offering up the vietnam conflict? Are you seriously laying the Vietnam conflict at the feet of the baby boomers? That alone is enough to discredit the rest of your absurd collection of wishes and perceptions.

For sure, my dog ain't the brightest. But, he can debate better than this.


AP Wire 8-26-09

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Leading entolomogists at Texas A&M recently revealed the startling results of a year long study of grasshoppers. "What we discovered, much to our amazement, is that grasshoppers hear with their legs.", Dr. Richard Loggert summarized.
"We studied the effects of loud noises on grasshoppers. When we placed them in a cage and then dropped a board on the ground next to them, they would jump..virtually every time. We then removed the rear legs from the grasshoppers and repeated the experiments. To our astonishment, they didn't jump when the board hit! We repeated the experiment several hundreds of times. Each revealed that, without their legs, they were apparently unable to hear the board hitting the ground."

[Wild Cobra]

Let's just go Logan's Run on society.

Sounds good to me. You have two years of consecutive nonproductive status before we will terminate you.

Fix the social spending, wont it!

[coyotes_geek]

The only reason why its now a 'ponzi scheme' is because the SS surplus that was built up over 50 years was raped. Its akin to pulling money out of your IRA constantly starting at 30 and then wondering why you dont have at 65.

The fund was designed to garner interest while payouts were low ie before the baby boomers started to age to have the money available later. Its why they set up a separate fund from the general fund.

Well those ers have been taking money out of their IRA the whole time.

No doubt congress' looting of the ss trust fund is a big part of the problem, but it's not all of it. SS is something like $9 trillion in the red and the congressional lootings only account for $5 trillion. Congress has sped up the process, but the system is still fundamentally flawed.

[Wild Cobra]

No doubt congress' looting of the ss trust fund is a big part of the problem, but it's not all of it. SS is something like $9 trillion in the red and the congressional lootings only account for $5 trillion. Congress has sped up the process, but the system is still fundamentally flawed.

How is it in the red? My research tells me the system is owed tons of money that was spent in the general budget. However, interest isn't paid on it. Now maybe there is $5 trillion borrowed and $9 Trillion owed with interest. Thing is, social security isn't expected to pay out more than it takes in for a couple decades still, but that depends on who's numbers you look at.

[TeyshaBlue]

The only reason why its now a 'ponzi scheme' is because the SS surplus that was built up over 50 years was raped. Its akin to pulling money out of your IRA constantly starting at 30 and then wondering why you dont have at 65.
The fund was designed to garner interest while payouts were low ie before the baby boomers started to age to have the money available later. Its why they set up a separate fund from the general fund.

Well those ers have been taking money out of their IRA the whole time.

I cant argue with the state of SS today. Can you show me the data that demonstrates it was the subset "baby boomers" who raided the trust fund?