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The Admiral:
agility, speed, quickness, flexibility endurance, stamina, and abilities
Dwight:
strength
When I say athletic, i mean on all aspects: agility, speed, quickness, flexibility, strength, toughness, endurance, stamina, and abilities.
David Robinson in his prime vs Dwight Howard now.
The Admiral:
agility, speed, quickness, flexibility endurance, stamina, and abilities
Dwight:
strength
I'd give it to Robinson in his prime.
Howards prime hasn't come yet though, so you can't really say.
DRob is more athletic than Howard. Wilt Chamberlain was more athletic than both of them put together.
DRob had offensive skills.
Howard is still trying to develop some.
Howard is a better athlete
Robinson is a better jumpshooter
D-Rob more athletic... by far...
Ummmm neither.
Wilt Chamberlain.
Yeah, there's a couple of jumpshots in here:
well between D-Rob and Dwight, I'd go with D-Rob. But if you want an answer to the actual question posed - who is the most athletic center of all time? - that would be someone else entirely. Maybe Hakeem?
Hakeem is in this conversation as well, but Wilt? He was definitely more athletic "ath-a-let-ic", as Chuck would say, than his peers by a wider margin than David or Dwight, but even if he were more athletic than either of those two, it's not like he is that much better than the both of them put together. , Shaq would have scored 200 in the game Wilt got 100. And no, I haven't seen the 16MM filmstrip that the game was recorded on, so yes, I'm too young to know how great Wilt was, but that's besides the point. David and Dwight were/are physical freaks amongst a set of peers that has been getting increasingly physically freakish. Wilt was playing abunch of 5'11 white guys who knew next to nothing regarding nutrition and training compared to todays athletes and trainers. Seriously, Wilt being so great was like Barry Bonds playing against a team of Honus Wagner clones. He's still great, but the crappiness of those around him makes him look that much better.
Props to him for scoring with 20 million women or whatever.
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Hakeem had far better skills but over all athleticism,.... I think DRob was better.
David Robinson above anybody. Wilt? Hakeem? Those guys couldn't dream of athletically doing what Robinson could do.
Howard is athletic but he's nowhere close to Robinson's agility, balance, or hang time.
To answer this question all you have to ask if any of the other three could:
1) walk across a basketball court on their hands
2) do a 360 dunk with two hands during a game
3) dribble up the court and avoid Michael Jordan stealing the ball and finish with a slam
A lot of people don't remember what kind of a freak David was. David Robinson easily.
Those blocks at 2:11 were trademark DRob blocks. The Admiral would get up so fast for the block that opposing players were left bewildered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_ChamberlainAs he did at Overbrook, Chamberlain again showcased his diverse athletic talent. He ran the 100-yard dash in 10.9 seconds, threw the shotput 56 feet, triple jumped more than 50 feet, and won the high jump in the Big Eight track and field championships three straight years.[26]...
Even far beyond his playing days, Chamberlain was a very fit person. In his mid-forties, he was able to humble rookie Magic Johnson in practice,[96] and even in the 1980s, he flirted with making a comeback in the NBA. In the 1980-81 NBA season, coach Larry Brown recalled that the 45-year old Chamberlain had received an offer by the Cleveland Cavaliers. When Chamberlain was 50, the New Jersey Nets had the same idea, and Chamberlain declined again.[96] Chamberlain however participated in several marathons instead.[4] He would stay an epitome of physical fitness for years to come, until his health rapidly worsened in 1999.
Some fans need to know the history of the game.
If you are ignorant on a subject, at least acknowledge you are ignorant and not have an opinion on it.
Hakeem is in this conversation as well, but Wilt? He was definitely more athletic "ath-a-let-ic", as Chuck would say, than his peers by a wider margin than David or Dwight, but even if he were more athletic than either of those two, it's not like he is that much better than the both of them put together. , Shaq would have scored 200 in the game Wilt got 100. And no, I haven't seen the 16MM filmstrip that the game was recorded on, so yes, I'm too young to know how great Wilt was, but that's besides the point. David and Dwight were/are physical freaks amongst a set of peers that has been getting increasingly physically freakish. Wilt was playing abunch of 5'11 white guys who knew next to nothing regarding nutrition and training compared to todays athletes and trainers. Seriously, Wilt being so great was like Barry Bonds playing against a team of Honus Wagner clones. He's still great, but the crappiness of those around him makes him look that much better.
Props to him for scoring with 20 million women or whatever.
Did you read the post? I acknowledged my own lack of knowledge of all of Chamberlains athletic accomplishments, so thoughtfully prvided in the wikipedia link above.
I am not however, so blinded by rose colored visions of the past as to ignore the superior athletic compe ion the modern NBA has to offer. If you think the NBA was better in the 50's than it is now, by all means, go on with your nostalgic ramblings.
The only reason Olajuwon, Howard, and Robinson did not similarly dominate the college track and field days of their time, was that they never competed in them.
P.S. Instead of just using your time to call someone ignorant in an inane post of your own, why not bring a take? Something legit. I'm up for discussion.
i'd have to agree. wilt definitely was a freak.
Apparently you didn't even read the one sentence I wrote. Take your own advice and read it again.
Since when have I said athletic compe ion was ignored? When did I say the NBA was better in the 50's than it is now?
And Wilt only played half a season in the 50's. He went up against a prime Jabbar and played him dead even, even though Wilt was way past his prime. In turn, Jabbar was playing dead even against a young Hakeem when Jabbar was in his late 30's.
And you know because .....
So far you have demonstrated that your ignorance on a subject will not stop you from forming an opinion, that you can't take your own advice and read other people's posts in their entirety, and that you jump to conclusions. Good job.
Just do a simple search on Spurstalk, the subject of NBA oldies vs. modern NBA has been discussed ad nauseum. Besides, why would you be up for discussion on a subject you admit on being ignorant on? I am not going to argue optimization theories with a Grade 2 kid learning the multiplication table.
lol wikipedia
Some people need to realize that you cant compare different eras of basketball. Would Wilt be able to dominate in the 90s when the NBA was stacked with quality centers? Who would know? You can certainly compare David with the Dream. David was more athletic but the Dream had way more skills with a basketball.
Absolutely right.
Robinson in his prime was on another planet, way more athletic than Howard (overall)
David Robinson was a physical wonder. He was amazing. Dwight Howard still seems a bit rigid to me whereas Drob had more fluid movement.
I'd say David Robinson.
David Robinson didn't have the greatest foot work in the world or the best offensive skills but he really was an incredible defender.
As for Hakeem, he had the best offensive skills of the three and he was extremely agile and athletic too. But he wasn't as tall as either one of the other guys.
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