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    The only thing we're missing is a counter to West/Odom-type athletic forwards, and who knows, that could be what they brought Haislip in for.

    We have about the best roster that could have been assembled, let's see how the first three months of the season pan out.

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    whats unrealistic about that? the trade or the roster or what?
    The fact that the FO just brought RJ into the team, and thus obviously want to play him.

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    Spurs FO knows way more things about the state of their roster than fans.

    Ginobili's health is a question mark for fans but Spurs' staff have medical reports about him. Spurs have a good idea if his previous injuries have long term consequences.

    Haislip is a question mark for fans but Spurs' staff has seen tons of games with him in Europe and has seen him practicing this summer. He isn't a sure thing but Spurs have surely a good idea on what he could provide or not to the team.

    Even if this team has some question marks, Spurs should have a quite good idea about their needs. I think they are fine with their current roster but if the right trade is on the table, they will do it now.

    good word. that's what i try to say on here to people who always say that gino or parker needs traded, spurs FO needs to do this, do that... i get so sick of it. spurs FO are the pros when it comes to player management, don't call any of them idiots when they've studied players, studied the game, and make hundreds of thousands of dollars to doing it everyday. they're the pros, not us

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    The fact that the FO just brought RJ into the team, and thus obviously want to play him.
    The more I think about the trade, the more nervous I get. The spurs went out on a limb to pay $14 million to RJ. We know what he can do offensively, Drive/Post/Shoot/Dunk. However the only thing I'm hearing is him being the main defensive stopper. And all those offensive skills I mention above are meaningless when your the 4th option. Like Finley all those skills will be used to support the big 3, which means he will be taking alot of jumpers and 3's like win Finley came here. The only reason the spurs would pay that kinda money is if they knew something about Manu. Like, if he gets hurt and he's out for 1-2 months with the same issues then they trade him, and get a real big man (7'0)or 2-3 solid role players for him. Because making RJ a third option works perfectly, instead of him being a Defensive stopper and taking whatever shots come his way. Manu is my favorite player, he has been since coming to the league. I'm just wondering if the FO really feels that all 4 guys can work together and be offensively effective/balanced. Or are they not saying something ( Manu is on the trading block ) so that Spurs fans wont protest. If RJ comes out to be all that and more and the spurs trade Manu, it will go over much better instead of the spurs saying we might trade if he doesn't heal right of the bat. Kinda like they did with Malik Rose for Nazr Mohamhed. They did it all of a sudden and by the time everybody realized what Nazr did for the Spurs nobody gave a crap about Malik, all they thought about was winning another le, which they did with Nazr as the starting center.

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    The spurs went out on a limb to pay $14 million to RJ. We know what he can do offensively, Drive/Post/Shoot/Dunk. However the only thing I'm hearing is him being the main defensive stopper. And all those offensive skills I mention above are meaningless when your the 4th option.
    Check out what Pop has to say on the subject. Begins at about the 4 minute mark.

    http://www.nba.com/spurs/features/090825_pop.html

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    Check out what Pop has to say on the subject. Begins at about the 4 minute mark.

    http://www.nba.com/spurs/features/090825_pop.html
    The whole Post up thing!! i'm figuring thats what your talking about. If so I was right about the spurs tweaking their offense. I like him posting up, cause we some more scoring downlow besides Duncan.

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    Also, when/if Gino is not starting, RJ will be the 3rd option with TP and Duncan. So he won't be just spotting up. He will be able to create with the ball in his hands, post up and do other things.

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    The whole Post up thing!! i'm figuring thats what your talking about. If so I was right about the spurs tweaking their offense. I like him posting up, cause we some more scoring downlow besides Duncan.
    Of course the offense will be tweaked. If you start RJ and McDyess in place of Finley and Bonner, there will be adjustments. Pop talked Holt into spending an extra 18-20M in payroll to buy some shiny new toys. He's going to use them. They're not paying RJ 14M to try to morph into a Bowen clone.

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    Let's trade RJ for LeBron!
    Team player and a 3/4th option. LJ does not fit that bill at all.

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    If we traded to get Outlaw/Prizbilla from the blazers which is worth 10mill would you do it? and how?

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    If we traded to get Outlaw/Prizbilla from the blazers which is worth 10mill would you do it? and how?
    Would I be for acquiring those two?

    Sure.

    But, why would the Blazers look to unload those two to the Spurs?

    Forgetting the fact that Pritchard has no intention of helping the Spurs, you know, for the sake of argument, what assets do the Spurs have to make an equitable trade?

    I just don't see a scenario where both teams fill a need or get better.

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    If we traded to get Outlaw/Prizbilla from the blazers which is worth 10mill would you do it? and how?
    offer them Tony. they might bite.
    give 6'2" and get back 13'10". good deal!

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    offer them Tony. they might bite.
    give 6'2" and get back 13'10". good deal!
    If were gonna give them Parker I want alot more than Prizbilla/Outlaw. If They trade Parker then Aldrige/Blake is the deal FOR STARTERS. They would probably have to throw in someone else to, to make that deal. Theirs no way I'd give up Parker for cheap. I'm not his biggest fan by any means, However he is an extremely valuable player so if he is trade you need a point guard and a few solid role players that can be stars if given the opportunity, Hence a point guard in Blake/Aldrige or Blake/Oden/Outlaw for Parker

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    If were gonna give them Parker I want alot more than Prizbilla/Outlaw. If They trade Parker then Aldrige/Blake is the deal FOR STARTERS. They would probably have to throw in someone else to, to make that deal. Theirs no way I'd give up Parker for cheap. I'm not his biggest fan by any means, However he is an extremely valuable player so if he is trade you need a point guard and a few solid role players that can be stars if given the opportunity, Hence a point guard in Blake/Aldrige or Blake/Oden/Outlaw for Parker
    Wow..

    Your eagerness to trade Parker has apparently caused your sarcasm detector to malfunction.

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    Would I be for acquiring those two?

    Sure.

    But, why would the Blazers look to unload those two to the Spurs?

    Forgetting the fact that Pritchard has no intention of helping the Spurs, you know, for the sake of argument, what assets do the Spurs have to make an equitable trade?

    I just don't see a scenario where both teams fill a need or get better.
    They definitely want to dump Pryz. He's the stopper from them being MAJOR players next summer. However, my price, if I'm making the deal, is no less than Rudy Fernandez to take Pryz off their hands.

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    They definitely want to dump Pryz. He's the stopper from them being MAJOR players next summer. However, my price, if I'm making the deal, is no less than Rudy Fernandez to take Pryz off their hands.
    What's Pryzbilla's contract?

    Whatever the case, if the Spurs could acquire him for nothing more than expirings that would be seeing minimal time when it comes to playoff time, I think I'd do it. Sure, I'd try to get as much value as possible -- i.e. Rudy -- but he wouldn't be a deal breaker.

    I've said all along that if the Spurs are going to improve, it'd be best with a legit 7'-ish defender or with a Bowen-esque wing; one that could play significant minutes alongside both RJ and Manu.

    Pryzbilla fits the defensive 5 and if the contract isn't too ridiculous, I'd be all for his acquisition.

    But I still don't see Pritchard making a deal with the Spurs that he's not seen as raping or at least getting the better of..
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    7M with an ETO

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    Not bad.. When's the ETO?

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    2010/2011, but he has a 15% trade kicker as well.

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    What the ..

    It ain't my money.

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    No more moves. It's been pretty much a perfect offseason

    We have an excellent mix of youth and vets, and about 7mil in expirings to use before the deadline if something goes wrong. We really need to find out what the young guys are going to give us before shuffling the deck any more, and that means playing wait and see until January.

    Lock and load, and make a stand HERE with what we've got.



    PS Anyone talking about trading Tony should be put up against a wall and SHOT. Trade one of the 3 best PGs in the world in his prime? GTFO here. Where's No Limit Army Commander when you need him?

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    No more moves. It's been pretty much a perfect offseason

    We have an excellent mix of youth and vets, and about 7mil in expirings to use before the deadline if something goes wrong. We really need to find out what the young guys are going to give us before shuffling the deck any more, and that means playing wait and see until January.

    Lock and load, and make a stand HERE with what we've got.



    PS Anyone talking about trading Tony should be put up against a wall and SHOT. Trade one of the 3 best PGs in the world in his prime? GTFO here. Where's No Limit Army Commander when you need him?
    finally some sense in this thread-- how much better of an off season could anyone have predicted this year--
    let's wait at least until oct 7 to start changing anything on this team

    We have a chance to win a le -as is-- who could have thought that 4 months ago

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    The Spurs need to sign Bruce Bowen ASAP.

    He would be a huge upgrade over Dan Hughes. Hughes has a great basketball mind, but he is boring as . So when Elliott takes his games off, Bruce can step right in.

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    finally some sense in this thread-- how much better of an off season could anyone have predicted this year--
    let's wait at least until oct 7 to start changing anything on this team

    We have a chance to win a le -as is-- who could have thought that 4 months ago
    They definitely want to dump Pryz. He's the stopper from them being MAJOR players next summer. However, my price, if I'm making the deal, is no less than Rudy Fernandez to take Pryz off their hands.
    Sense is not a strong point outside of comments by about 50 posters here, many of whom are seemingly on hiatus between seasons. But that's part of what makes this a fun and vibrant place!

    PS There is one caveat to my comments - if Portland will give us Rudy Fernandez for anyone outside of the Big 3, I'm buying. But they aren't, so I'm only dreaming. Nice to dream though, Ex.

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    Nah, Rudy Fernandez would be playing in the same role as Mason is, therefore, it would be the same situation.

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