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We know nothing about Rogers' ground game really, but he's big, strong, and hits pretty hard. Should be an interesting matchup...
I don't understand why this is a laughable matchup?? Or boring? Or not worth watching??
We know as much about Brett Rogers as we do about Shane Carwin, who is getting the next shot at Lesnar, and is ranked 1 slot ahead of Rogers.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/7/29...ensus#comments
He's undefeated
He's big
He's strong
He hits hard
His ground game is an unknown
His fights haven't lasted long (cardio?)
It's not Lesnar, but it's a top 10 matchup against a legit threat...and it's about as good as SF can do at this point, with Overeem being the other option.
If Rogers was in the UFC he'd be in the hyped up group with Carwin, Cain, Dos Santos, etc...but since he's not people are going to dismiss him.
IMO, this is Fedor's toughest fight since Crocop in 2005.
It's a no win for Fedor though...lose and he instantly becomes an over-rated fraud (which would be completely unfair of course)...win and he was supposed to. That's just how it's going to be until he's in the UFC, and even then there would still be excuses made by the haters...
It's worth watching i guess, Rogers hasn't proven much other than the AA fight and AA has so much glass in his jaw he could make a chandelier with it...
That's what happens when the supposed Jordan of the sport is fighting in the minor leagues, and 95% of the rest of the MMA elite are where the best in the world come to compete..It's a no win for Fedor though...lose and he instantly becomes an over-rated fraud (which would be completely unfair of course)...win and he was supposed to
I don't hate the guy, but i don't respect the moves he has made. The UFC offered him an assload of money, contracts that are good enough for GSP, Anderson, Wandy, Hendo, Brock, Page, they even got o back (and he is greedy as they come) but not Fedor.. Making idiotic comments like "The contract is one sided and unfair"That's just how it's going to be until he's in the UFC, and even then there would still be excuses made by the haters...
Whether it's him or his MGT i really don't care, he is not fighting where he is supposed to be, it's moronic..
Rogers has proven as much as Carwin, who beat a heartless Gonzaga (ranked in the lower half of the top 10 at the time like Rogers is now)...and now gets a le shot...
I want Fedor in the UFC as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to rip on his opponent just because it's in Strikeforce. Rogers is a tough UFC-caliber opponent, whether it's the UFC, SF, Dream, Kimbo's backyard, whoever. Don't care. 3 fights and then Fedor is back into negotiations...and hopefully then he'll land in the UFC.
Nah watching fedor fight for the UFC HW belt for 5 mil, let's watch fedor fight brett rogers
LOL
Back in negotiations. You mean where Fedor and his crazy Russian team tell the UFC that a "gazillion dollar deal is not enough, we want co-promotion as well"? Fedor has done everything humanly possible to avoid fighting in the UFC. I suspect he'll continue to try and avoid the UFC until he retires..
You typed my exact thoughts...
Let me ask you and be honest. Do you feel the UFC has done everything possible to land Fedor, when you look at what he is actually worth to a company?? I sure do. This man is not in a negotiating spot to be asking for what he has..You typed my exact thoughts...
Another Fedor/UFC/Dumb Management debate...last one got pretty heated.
I'm not gonna get heated i already said my piece on it, i just don't get the Fedor defense on this issue. The UFC offered him more than he's worth and he still said no..
This deserves repeating..
I agree, and the last thing I want to do is trash Brett Rogers. I really like watching the guy fight, but IMO Cain Velasquez beats him right now. The UFC HW division is deeper. Im not saying Fedor sucks, Im not saying Fedor is scared, what I am saying is Fedors management sucks, and are scared.
Cain beats, Rogers with complete ease right now for sure.. And if Fedor came to the UFC tomorrow and fought Cain, the interest and PPV would be ten times what he is doing in SF. His fights won't sell, it's been proven. His last one with AA did like 100,000 PPV's, UFC 100 just did 1.5 million.. Outside of Rogers and maybe Overeem that's it from a compe on stand-point.. So what 3 fights with SF and then he'll go back to the UFC negotiating table, and if history is any guide, the same nonsense with M1 will still exist. If Strikeforce is still around when his deal is up, i bet he just re-signs with them or some other no name company, before ever coming to the UFC..
And i am not in the camp that thinks Alistair Overeem is anything special at Heavyweight, when he is sporting, losses and performances like this..
2 to Shogun (LHW)
2 losses to Nogueria
1 loss to Chuck Liddel (LHW)
1 loss to Werdum
1 No Contest with Cro Cop
epic meh
its the best they can do but the fact remains, its brett rogers.
I don't know if Werdum would make more sense?
But probably it would be too early to go fight in autum for Fabricio
Rogers is decent, but he can cause some trouble as he is quite big HW with great power.
Good interview by Arial
http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/08/27/f...t-rogers/#cont
Lesnar would kick his ass in a jumproping contest maybe...
I'm sure they gave him a good offer but I still question what it was exactly, how incentive based it was, what the guaranteed money was, etc. I'm sure we'll never know for sure, unless a copy of the contract offer gets out. We also don't know much about the SF deal, how the co-promotion money will work out, etc. Discussing it is pointless....still.
because Dana NEVER spews any BS...
I'm not so sure...Kongo exposed big holes in Cain's striking, which I was surprised to see. He showed a great chin though...and wrestling of course.
Referencing his LHW fights is kinda pointless, since he was cutting huge weight and ALWAYS gassed out after a few minutes (usually did well prior to gassing, FWIW). He was on a huge role for a year after moving back to HW…dominated Buentello, beat Hunt & Goodridge, and was beating CC up before the nutshot DQ. And he KO’d Hari in K-1 too. Pretty busy and impressive for a 1 yr stretch…before getting hurt.
You'll be locked in, biatch...
Rogers is a bigger threat than Werdum IMO. Werdum's striking isn't much of a threat and he wouldn't be able to submit Fedor. Rogers on the other hand is much bigger than Fedor and can certainly knock him out.
Damn I hate Milen
That interview was not hat great, Fedor said nothing new.
They should ask him why did he turned down the probably 5 milion and if it was a true with those milions? Ask him about ciontract and how much does he knows about all those negotiations.
ehhh nvm
all that
well i know i will be excited to watch this fight. i still respect the fighter, maybe not his management or his decision to goto strikeforce but hes still fedor.
but it's cool to hate on Fedor now...and wish a violent KO on him!! Come on!!
yeah but I watch everything
LEONARD has the best takes. I wouldn't have guessed any of it.
I think Rogers should be the consensus #1. That 7-28 guy he fought; that national wrestling background; that awesome shape he comes in; that glass jaw he smashed.
Leonard would defend Fedor fighting Kimbo.
I have showtime, and I probably won't even watch it live. MEH indeed.
Solid points as always...
Wow, you think Rogers should be #1? That doesn't make any sense at all. I think you're in the minority there...
Fedor doesn't have a "national wrestling background"...I guess he sucks too.
Why do you think that Rogers isn't in shape? What are you basing that on? Oh wait I know...BMI...of course...
Say what you want about Arlovski's jaw...Brett Rogers still plowed thru him faster than anybody ever has. I love how people rip on Arlovski instead of giving Rogers SOME credit. Arlovski had won 5 straight fights before Fedor and Rogers (including Werdum, Nelson, Rothwell, O'Brien...not a terrible list). Completely dismissing Arlovski is weak...
You're lying...or you're not much of an MMA fan...maybe more of a UFC fan.
I certainly would not defend Fedor fighting Kimbo, or anybody of his caliber. Kimbo has nothing to do with Brett Rogers...
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