this country will recover when most of the baby boomers are dead

[SpurNation]

Don't deign to tell me me what I think. You're already failing pretty hard at it.

I think people are quite stupid and generally are easy to be led around but in no way shape or form have I ever said that that behavior should take place.

Me saying that your generation ed things up for us is no different than saying its ed up to have someone come to a restaurant only to be left with the bill of the people already there as they walk out the door.

Passing off your debts to someone else is the exact opposite of taking personal responsibility.

Your babbling GOP 'charity choosing' dogma isn't even cogent to the point.

Hey man...I feel for ya. I don't think that once I denied the system of SS is screwed up. I just don't like it when people lump an entire generation for the faults that happened in the past. Not everybody in the baby boomer generation agreed to the system...they just happened to be caught in it like you will be too.

And your post earlier made reference that the entire baby boomer generation was at fault for you not being able to have yours in the future.

I was just giving example that one should be responsible for their own future and have seen that many in your generation don't take owness for their future knowing what lies ahead.

It was no way intended to say you individually conduct yourself that way...but your response was typicall from what I hear from many in your generation.

[LnGrrrR]

Whether it will be better, worse, or non existant at all I couldn't predict that. But, from what I see today...most of the younger generation don't have the concept of saving for the future and thus will have no future of their own once their gravy train of spending mom and dad's money runs out. I sincerely hope that would never happen but I see too many indicators it will.

It wasn't the younger generation that were running the banks and financial industries, whose ridiculously stupid policies led to collapse. Stupidity isn't endemic to one generation.

[DarrinS]

This thread is quite sad and makes me embarrassed of my fellow gen-X'ers.

How will many of you feel when your tattoos are wilting, your face piercings are sagging, and your stretched earlobes are hanging down to your birkenstocks? Will you feel like a drain on society?

You are ing about a generation that ushered in the civil rights act and gave us the technological revoluton that allows you to live in comfort and post bull on message boards all day.


LOL, when you are an old bag, you'll have to rely on Generation-Y and Generation-Next to take care of your sorry asses. All those dildos know how to do is text message and consume mass quan ies of super-caffeinated drinks, in between their X-box binges.

Hope you planned well for your retirement.

[TeyshaBlue]

Provide a refutation of something or just shut up.

I believe I already have...by piercing that bubble of causation when you laid the Vietnam war at the feet of the baby boomers whilst simultaneously ignoring gains in civil rights.
This is where critical thinking comes into play...not only examining conclusions from data sets, but the relations of conclusions to each other.
I'm an analyst by trade, and a musician by hobby. I swim in alot of ponds. On the back of my office door is a sign that reads "You don't know what you don't know." The analysts that report to me are sick of hearing it, but it serves us well.
You don't know jack. You just think that you do because it "seems" that some things are related. Until you can demonstrate that you can quantify these "influences" that the boomer are responsible for, then you are left with your opinion. Try stating it as that and you'll get a whole lot less guff and be a bit more intellectually honest to boot.
Alot of things happen for -all reasons. Examine all of them before you spout off.

[TeyshaBlue]

It wasn't the younger generation that were running the banks and financial industries, whose ridiculously stupid policies led to collapse. Stupidity isn't endemic to one generation.

But since we boomers where in place when stupidity was only recently discovered, we're in Lewis & Clark.

[DarrinS]

The baby boomers are a very industrious and entrepreneurial generation. One of their major flaws was probably raising a generation of spoiled, lazy, and obviously ungrateful "adult children" with a sense of en lement.


Maybe it's just my conservative mind, but instead of pointing fingers for all the world's ills, why not do something (like they did), to change things for the better?

[DarrinS]

It wasn't the younger generation that were running the banks and financial industries, whose ridiculously stupid policies led to collapse. Stupidity isn't endemic to one generation.

A large chunk of Gen-X'ers bought homes that they couldn't afford, and, in general, have lived beyond their means. It's the younger generation that want's what their parents have and they want it NOW.

You do realize that this massive downturn in the economy has had negative consequences for baby boomers, probably more than any other group, because they are so close to retirement, don't you? Did they purposely themselves over?

[TeyshaBlue]

The baby boomers are a very industrious and entrepreneurial generation. One of their major flaws was probably raising a generation of spoiled, lazy, and obviously ungrateful "adult children" with a sense of en lement.


Maybe it's just my conservative mind, but instead of pointing fingers for all the world's ills, why not do something (like they did), to change things for the better?

Now you're partaking of the same fount of stupidity (as recently discovered by baby boomers!) that fuzzylumpkins has apparently bathed in.

My kids, and I've got 4 from age 29 to 15, are some hard working fools. I ain't goin on some proud Dad-rant, but they certainly know how to work and ain't afraid of it.
There has been an accelerating curve of en lement in place for the last century...that happens when a society becomes prosperous...when those things that a previous generation strived for become easily obtained in a subsequent generation. You just can't judge an entire generation on influences external to them.

[DarrinS]

Now you're partaking of the same fount of stupidity (as recently discovered by baby boomers!) that fuzzylumpkins has apparently bathed in.

Someone caught on.

My kids, and I've got 4 from age 29 to 15, are some hard working fools. I ain't goin on some proud Dad-rant, but they certainly know how to work and ain't afraid of it.

Then you are raising them well.

There has been an accelerating curve of en lement in place for the last century...that happens when a society becomes prosperous...when those things that a previous generation strived for become easily obtained in a subsequent generation. You just can't judge an entire generation on influences external to them.

Very true.

[mookie2001]

a lot of people who think theyre gen Xers arent actually gen Xers if you go by the loose defintions that mean nothing








whats a baby boomer? 1942-68, 1945-65?

[hater]

I agree, the Baby Boom generation were terrible parents overall. Let their kids go to the drain pretty much. (with few exceptions such as me)

shame on the old farts

[TeyshaBlue]

I agree, the Baby Boom generation were terrible parents overall. Let their kids go to the drain pretty much. (with few exceptions such as me)

shame on the old farts

ROFL....

Hey, who dat in your avatar?

[Extra Stout]

Where the ethos of the Baby Boomers has a flaw, it is in its narcissism to the point of self-obsession, and of its triumphalist assertion that it alone has true enlightenment and everything that came before it is suspect. However, those flaws come alongside a good many accomplishments.

The WWII generation hoped to spare its children the hardships it had to go through. Unfortunately, an unintended consequence is that the Boomers never learned the tough life lessons the WWII generation did. Prosperity without effort makes one soft.

But Gen X is far worse. Gen X is the "Me Generation." Gen X takes all the flaws of the Boomers and builds on them, with fewer of the accomplishments. Gen X took the narcissism of the Boomers and mixed it with radical individualism to build a systemic social dysfunction where 1) they believe they are en led to everything they want, and 2) they don't care about anybody but themselves. They take responsibility for nothing -- all problems are somebody else's fault. They are always the victim. This very thread -- blaming the Baby Boomers for all America's problems -- epitomizes what Gen X is about.

Gen-Yers are even worse. And don't get me started on the millenials.

[hater]

ROFL....

Hey, who dat in your avatar?

It's pop in a gnome hat!

[TeyshaBlue]

It's pop in a gnome hat!

Nice!

[DarrinS]

Where the ethos of the Baby Boomers has a flaw, it is in its narcissism to the point of self-obsession, and of its triumphalist assertion that it alone has true enlightenment and everything that came before it is suspect. However, those flaws come alongside a good many accomplishments.

The WWII generation hoped to spare its children the hardships it had to go through. Unfortunately, an unintended consequence is that the Boomers never learned the tough life lessons the WWII generation did. Prosperity without effort makes one soft.

But Gen X is far worse. Gen X is the "Me Generation." Gen X takes all the flaws of the Boomers and builds on them, with fewer of the accomplishments. Gen X took the narcissism of the Boomers and mixed it with radical individualism to build a systemic social dysfunction where 1) they believe they are en led to everything they want, and 2) they don't care about anybody but themselves. They take responsibility for nothing -- all problems are somebody else's fault. They are always the victim. This very thread -- blaming the Baby Boomers for all America's problems -- epitomizes what Gen X is about.

Gen-Yers are even worse. And don't get me started on the millenials.

Damn, ES. I tend to agree with your assessment, but there are exceptions, as there are to any generalization.

From just my own personal experiences with those who are now late-teens to late-20's, we are in a heap of trouble.

[Extra Stout]

Damn, ES. I tend to agree with your assessment, but there are exceptions, as there are to any generalization.

From just my own personal experiences with those who are now late-teens to late-20's, we are in a heap of trouble.

There are always exceptions. Every generation has some exceptional people, and some total failures. But I maintain that each generation is yielding a lesser percentage of functional adults than the one preceding it. I say the typical Gen-Yer doesn't reach the emotional maturity of an adult until his thirties, if ever, whereas the Baby Boomers got there in their twenties.

I believe that the Gen-Xers are the last generation under whose leadership the United States will maintain at least a minimum level of social order. When they are out of picture, we will descend into chaos and death.

[DarrinS]

I believe that the Gen-Xers are the last generation under whose leadership the United States will maintain at least a minimum level of social order. When they are out of picture, we will descend into chaos and death.

I guess I'll have to move to "flyover country" when I get to retirement age.

[LnGrrrR]

A large chunk of Gen-X'ers bought homes that they couldn't afford, and, in general, have lived beyond their means. It's the younger generation that want's what their parents have and they want it NOW.

You do realize that this massive downturn in the economy has had negative consequences for baby boomers, probably more than any other group, because they are so close to retirement, don't you? Did they purposely themselves over?

Yes, and the people handing out the loans were probably baby boomers. As I said in the post you're responding to, stupidity is found in all generations, in relatively equal parts.

And the majority of baby boomers didn't screw themselves over... just a few key baby boomers (and various other generations I'm sure) in some key positions.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

The millennial generation gives me quite a bit of hope

http://www.newpolitics.net/node/360?full_report=1

The millennial generation is highly engaged in civic life, and has a broader conception of communal responsibility and teamwork than any generation since the great depression. Volunteerism is at an all time high among millennial generation members, and it is a generation that is known to have a very healthy respect for ins utional structures and parental/familial guidance.

The millennial generation is known for its tolerance, respect for diversity, and progressive politics.

What's so wrong with that?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I believe I already have...by piercing that bubble of causation when you laid the Vietnam war at the feet of the baby boomers whilst simultaneously ignoring gains in civil rights.
This is where critical thinking comes into play...not only examining conclusions from data sets, but the relations of conclusions to each other.
I'm an analyst by trade, and a musician by hobby. I swim in alot of ponds. On the back of my office door is a sign that reads "You don't know what you don't know." The analysts that report to me are sick of hearing it, but it serves us well.
You don't know jack. You just think that you do because it "seems" that some things are related. Until you can demonstrate that you can quantify these "influences" that the boomer are responsible for, then you are left with your opinion. Try stating it as that and you'll get a whole lot less guff and be a bit more intellectually honest to boot.
Alot of things happen for -all reasons. Examine all of them before you spout off.

All you've proven is that certain segments that are on the blurred lines between generations. The civil rights act was passed in 1965. That was when the oldest of the baby boomers were in their very early twenties and the youngest were only two years old.

Despite this you have no issue with trying to take credit for it out of one side of your mouth and then claim it discredits the central point of my argument. You may be some sort of an analyst but you are very poor in argumentation. When you make two mutually exclusive arguments you discredit both.

Fast forward ten years to the waning years of Vietnam and there is no question what generation it was that was spitting on our soldiers as they were coming home.

Now some credit can be given for helping end the war but even that is a double edged sword. It was Nixon, Ford and the oh so wonderful Kissinger that got us out of the war. All of these were men that the BB tried their hardest in 1972 to oust in the form of McGovern. It didn't work

Furthermore, you tout being an analyst as being some source of authority on the subject and then claim I know nothing but I will bet $5 to a doughnut that you are a market analyst or of that ilk and that would give you no authority on this subject whatsoever.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Where the ethos of the Baby Boomers has a flaw, it is in its narcissism to the point of self-obsession, and of its triumphalist assertion that it alone has true enlightenment and everything that came before it is suspect. However, those flaws come alongside a good many accomplishments.

The WWII generation hoped to spare its children the hardships it had to go through. Unfortunately, an unintended consequence is that the Boomers never learned the tough life lessons the WWII generation did. Prosperity without effort makes one soft.

But Gen X is far worse. Gen X is the "Me Generation." Gen X takes all the flaws of the Boomers and builds on them, with fewer of the accomplishments. Gen X took the narcissism of the Boomers and mixed it with radical individualism to build a systemic social dysfunction where 1) they believe they are en led to everything they want, and 2) they don't care about anybody but themselves. They take responsibility for nothing -- all problems are somebody else's fault. They are always the victim. This very thread -- blaming the Baby Boomers for all America's problems -- epitomizes what Gen X is about.

Gen-Yers are even worse. And don't get me started on the millenials.

Generation X is just getting its feet wet. How history will judge has yet to be determined despite our predecessors need to denigrate us from the very beginning.

That is why I have so much venom towards the baby boomers. I got very sick of hearing me and my brethren insulted as being lazy failures only to look around me and see a goddamn mess all the time.

I refuse to take part in the denigration of GenY. They have their own life to live and their own row to hoe. I will let history judge them and not count those chickens before they hatch.

[LnGrrrR]

The millennial generation gives me quite a bit of hope

http://www.newpolitics.net/node/360?full_report=1

The millennial generation is highly engaged in civic life, and has a broader conception of communal responsibility and teamwork than any generation since the great depression. Volunteerism is at an all time high among millennial generation members, and it is a generation that is known to have a very healthy respect for ins utional structures and parental/familial guidance.

The millennial generation is known for its tolerance, respect for diversity, and progressive politics.

What's so wrong with that?

Neat link on the Millenials, of which I am one, I guess. That or Gen Y. It's not like these are easily defined until much later.

I'm guessing that the majority of Millenials will stress civil liberties, and social tolerance/equality.

The two major factors that I think will set the millenials apart from other generations are being raised with the Internet, and of course, 9/11 and the fallout from that.

[TeyshaBlue]

Despite this you have no issue with trying to take credit for it out of one side of your mouth and then claim it discredits the central point of my argument. You may be some sort of an analyst but you are very poor in argumentation. When you make two mutually exclusive arguments you discredit both.

Fast forward ten years to the waning years of Vietnam and there is no question what generation it was that was spitting on our soldiers as they were coming home.

OMG...and you think I have poor argumentation skills? Who do you think the soldiers were?
Can't have it both ways, junior.

Furthermore, you tout being an analyst as being some source of authority on the subject and then claim I know nothing but I will bet $5 to a doughnut that you are a market analyst or of that ilk and that would give you no authority on this subject whatsoever.

You would be wrong, yet again. I love doughnuts tho...so feel free to serve a few. I ain't an authority on much of anything...never really said I was. Your blind hatred of boomers seems to be filling in some blanks for you. It doesn't take a room temperature IQ to discredit your conclusions. , your byzantine construct of contradictions does that all by itself.

[TeyshaBlue]

Generation X is just getting its feet wet. How history will judge has yet to be determined despite our predecessors need to denigrate us from the very beginning.

That is why I have so much venom towards the baby boomers. I got very sick of hearing me and my brethren insulted as being lazy failures only to look around me and see a goddamn mess all the time.

I refuse to take part in the denigration of GenY. They have their own life to live and their own row to hoe. I will let history judge them and not count those chickens before they hatch.

ROFL @ you and your "brethren".