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    DENVER - A city panel in charge of overseeing marijuana possession crimes in Denver recommended on Wednesday that the fine for possession be set at $1.

    If Denver's presiding judge accepts the recommendation from the Denver Marijuana Policy Review Panel, the fine would be the lowest in the entire nation for marijuana possession.

    The panel was created by Mayor John Hickenlooper in December 2007 after voters passed an ordinance that made it so adult marijuana possession is the city's "lowest lawn enforcement priority."

    In May 2008, the city attorney's office made it so those cited for the crime can mail in their fines instead of having to appear in court. At that time, the city attorney's office assigned the value of the fine at $50.

    "By setting the fine at just $1, we are sending a message to Denver officials that the era of citing adults for using a less harmful drug than alcohol is over. It's simply not worth the city's time or resources," said panel member and SAFER Executive Director Mason Tvert, who coordinated the successful Denver marijuana initiatives.

    Lt. Ernest Martinez with the Denver Police Department is also part of the panel and voted against lowering the fine.

    "There's no indication that there's a problem with the fine schedule," Martinez said. "The panel is going outside the bounds of the language of the ordinance."

    Martinez thinks there should be more dialogue about the changes.

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    I can't wait to see all those idiot college students send in their fine only to lose all their financial aid

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    I guess, given the al ude there, citizens of Denver don't care about people being high?

    I think reducing the fine is a horrible idea and I hope nothing comes of this attempt.

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    I guess, given the al ude there, citizens of Denver don't care about people being high?

    I think reducing the fine is a horrible idea and I hope nothing comes of this attempt.
    Its already legal to a certain degree there. Its use is as rampant as alcohol only a tenth as destructive. Its a waste of resources and money to continue fighting a pointless fight.

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    Machs nix to me!!! ..................I still can't smoke it, as it makes my heart race and I have to take a Xanax to calm down.

    But we do need to decriminalize it for sure!!!

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    Its already legal to a certain degree there. Its use is as rampant as alcohol only a tenth as destructive. Its a waste of resources and money to continue fighting a pointless fight.
    Well I think it is hypocritical to fine people a dollar for doing it.

    Either something is illegal and worth fining people over or it isn't. And if somethng is illegal then people should be fined substancially for doing it- every time.

    By fining people only a dollar, they are basically okaying usage of marijuana without coming right out and fully legalizing it. That is a double standard, one I find to be unacceptable.

    Do you agree about it being a double standard?

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    I think the $1 fine is kind of silly. Just decriminalize it and quit going through the motions.

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    By fining people only a dollar, they are basically okaying usage of marijuana without coming right out and legalizing it. That is a double standard, one I find to be unacceptable.

    Do you agree about it being a double standard?
    The people in Colorado are a lot smarter than I give them credit for. I've known people very close to me that marijuana has helped them both physically and/or mentally.

    It's time to legalize it NOW!!!

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    Well I think it is hypocritical to fine people a dollar for doing it.

    Either something is illegal and worth fining people over or it isn't. And if somethng is illegal then people should be fined substancially for doing it- every time.

    By fining people only a dollar, they are basically okaying usage of marijuana without coming right out and fully legalizing it. That is a double standard, one I find to be unacceptable.

    Do you agree about it being a double standard?
    They're hands are tied by big government. The state has legalized its use to a certain extent but the federal anti-drug laws are still in effect. This is there answer to making it right because that's what the people want. Lots of unnecessary red tape and governmental bull due to old unsubstantiated and out dated laws and ways of thinking.

    The important thing is that non of the substance abuse laws change. You can't smoke and drive and so forth. They're protecting the guy having a smoke just like the guy having a glass of wine with his dinner is protected.

    This is people like you and me (well more like me) fighting to maintain our ability to exercise our cons utional rights and fight off being controlled by money grubbing assholes.

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    I think the $1 fine is kind of silly. Just decriminalize it and quit going through the motions.
    They would if they could. If you can figure out a way to get passed the federal end of things you'd be the most celebrated man in the nation. Cali's doing a decent job.

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    The people in Colorado are a lot smarter than I give them credit for. I've known people very close to me that marijuana has helped them both physically and/or mentally.

    It's time to legalize it NOW!!!
    My knee jerk reaction is to say don't legalize it. My sister was addicted to pot and it caused her so many problems.
    However people can abuse anything- even over the counter allergy pills and I sure don't want to see those outlawed.

    What are the proven medical benefits of marijuana? What are the bad side effects? The only thing I know about marijuana is that my sister was reckless with it and that I have no inclination to ever use it.

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    My knee jerk reaction is to say don't legalize it. My sister was addicted to pot and it caused her so many problems.
    However people can abuse anything- even over the counter allergy pills and I sure don't want to see those outlawed.

    What are the proven medical benefits of marijuana? What are the bad side effects? The only thing I know about marijuana is that my sister was reckless with it and that I have no inclination to ever use it.
    Side effects are being tired, lazy and hungry. Short term memory is moderately affected.

    Relief from general body pains to severe pain. Pretty good at getting rid of headaches and subsiding menstrual cramps.

    Improves concentration.

    Federal researchers implanted several types of cancer, including leukemia and lung cancers, in mice, then treated them with cannabinoids (unique, active components found in marijuana). THC and other cannabinoids shrank tumors and increased the mice's lifespans. Munson, AE et al. Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids. Journal of the National Cancer Ins ute. Sept. 1975. p. 597-602.
    Chemicals in cannabis have been found to stop prostate cancer cells from growing in the laboratory, suggesting that cannabis-based medicines could one day help fight the disease, scientists said Wednesday.
    On and on and on.

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    The point is not what are the benefits. There are plenty of things worse for you that are perfectly legal:

    Alcohol
    Fatty Foods
    Tobacco
    ......

    It is about not wasting money on something that people should have the choice to do. Incredible amounts of resources are dedicated to marijuana. As long as it is not a mind altering drug (Acid....), it should be up to the people to use it within reasonable guidelines (not driving under the influence...)


    I do not even smoke either.

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    Side effects are being tired, lazy and hungry. Short term memory is moderately affected.

    Relief from general body pains to severe pain. Pretty good at getting rid of headaches and subsiding menstrual cramps.

    Improves concentration.





    On and on and on.

    Thanks very much for the info, B2B. I appreciate it.

    Marijuana, in the case of my sister, also has the unforunate side affect of causing major pains in the neck- as my sis and her friends were when they were using.

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    I can't honestly think of anything worse than alcohol. Exponentially more destructive.

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    All I know is that it has proven to be an anti-anxiety agent for many people. In most cases it just relaxes them and takes the edge off.

    I also know for a fact, that it is dispensed legally in Cali. for cancer patients to ease their pain an nausea after chemo.

    Medicinal herbs have been around since the dawning of man. In fact most prescription drugs are derived from one kind of herb or another.

    I'm sorry your sister got so messed up on it. I'm inclined to believe she was most probably putting some thing else in the pot, and if not I fully understand her not being able to handle it. I could never be a pot smoker, and believe me I tried. It just doesn't agree with some peoples systems.

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    Marijuana is only illegal 'cause the government can't get a piece of the pie. At least not all of the pie. Plain and simple. People should exercise self control when using it. If they can't, then they have no business using it. I have a friend that went to SMU. Graduated with a law degree pretty high, no pun intended, in his class and now works for a pretty big law firm. He would get high every time he could and did so before class, so weed ruining lives is baloney. If I'm not mistaken he received a $100,000 advance when he was hired.........

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    Thanks very much for the info, B2B. I appreciate it.

    Marijuana, in the case of my sister, also has the unforunate side affect of causing major pains in the neck- as my sis and her friends were when they were using.
    Perhaps she would have been equally immature and destructive despite the drug. At some point you have to hold her accountable for her actions. Marijuana doesn't have the same addictive characteristics as alcohol, meth, heroin or coke...

    Or perhaps she would have been less fascinated and/or reckless with it had it been legal.

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    I believe Marijuana cannot be addictive physically. Only mentally. There are no reports of it causing your body to crave it really. Some minor things possibly, but the vast majority of testing says its addictive qualities are not like that of other traditional drugs.

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    If I see somebody driving while high, I'm getting out of their way.
    If I see somebody serving me food while high, I'm getting them fired.
    If somebody sees me getting high, I laugh and wait for them to leave the room.

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    All I know is that it has proven to be an anti-anxiety agent for many people. In most cases it just relaxes them and takes the edge off.

    I also know for a fact, that it is dispensed legally in Cali. for cancer patients to ease their pain an nausea after chemo.

    Medicinal herbs have been around since the dawning of man. In fact most prescription drugs are derived from one kind of herb or another.

    I'm sorry your sister got so messed up on it. I'm inclined to believe she was most probably putting some thing else in the pot, and if not I fully understand her not being able to handle it. I could never be a pot smoker, and believe me I tried. It just doesn't agree with some peoples systems.
    My sister had a lot more problems than the pot. The pot only contributed to the trouble she got herself in, it was certainly not the sole cause of her woes.

    And like I said, she could have abused over the counter pills just as easily.

    I wish there were a way pot could legally be perscribed by a doctor for those medical purpose it would help with but remain illegal for recreational use.

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    If I see somebody driving while high, I'm getting out of their way.
    If I see somebody serving me food while high, I'm getting them fired.
    If somebody sees me getting high, I laugh and wait for them to leave the room.
    Don't quit your day job, K?

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    My sister had a lot more problems than the pot. The pot only contributed to the trouble she got herself in, it was certainly not the sole cause of her woes.

    And like I said, she could have abused over the counter pills just as easily.

    I wish there were a way pot could legally be perscribed by a doctor for those medical purpose it would help with but remain illegal for recreational use.
    There is a way, in California. But why do you want it to remain illegal? Do you want alcohol illegal? Fast Food? Tobacco?

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    My sister had a lot more problems than the pot. The pot only contributed to the trouble she got herself in, it was certainly not the sole cause of her woes.

    And like I said, she could have abused over the counter pills just as easily.

    I wish there were a way pot could legally be perscribed by a doctor for those medical purpose it would help with but remain illegal for recreational use.
    If it was legal for recreational use it would serve a much more productive role in society than it being illegal. Check the current state of the war on that drug.

    Marijuana being illegal for recreational use is as pointless as making Tylenol Allergy illegal unless a doctors prescribes it.

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    There is a way, in California. But why do you want it to remain illegal? Do you want alcohol illegal? Fast Food? Tobacco?
    Fast food- no. I would starve.

    I would love to see alcohol and tobacco be illegal. Both have caused my family a great deal of harm while costing them ridiculous amounts of money.

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