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    Always two sides to the story...
    So that accounts for all of the increase? These guys made 3000 complaints in one year?

    I don't think so.

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    Maybe you can answer this question. Why is it that I can get an MRI on my dog for $400 but for a person it costs thousands? Same equipment/results or no?
    that depends on what kind of MRI is being done. it is possible that an MRI on a dog could run as high as that for a human if a pet owner was willing to pay for the more expensive types (e.g., a brain MRI is far more expensive than one for the shoulder). also, your vet was probably the only one running the MRI, that is, he (or she) acted as a radiology tech, radiologist and medical physicist all at once.
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    plainly put, it is physics applied to medicine, especially in the areas of medical imaging and radiotherapy. you will see mp's working is dosimetry or in programming algorithms for PET (positron emission topography) scans, MRIs and CTs. they can also train radiology techs, they monitor radiation exposure for health care providers as well as patients and may work with radiologists, oncologists and radiation therapists. i myself work with radiology picture, archiving and collection (PAC) systems. i did my graduate work at UT health science center and got certified in imaging informatics at the veterbi school of engineering at USC (it is an oline program by the way and is under the school of biomedical engineering). you probably have taken at least up to quantum physics and diff eq as well as some c++ classes so you can easily qualify for admission into a program.
    Sounds like a pretty interesting gig.

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    So that accounts for all of the increase? These guys made 3000 complaints in one year?

    I don't think so.
    Increase in what?

    http://www.tmb.state.tx.us/agency/st...nforce/inv.php

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    Instead of handing down "one size fits all" mandates on how it's going to be, Washington should be enabling states to set their own agendas, and solve their own problems, when it comes to health care.
    I wouldn't mind if it meant regarding all matters within that state.

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    After the $250,000 cap was imposed, the number of complaints against Texas doctors to the Medical Board rose from 2,942 to 6,000 in one year. More than half those complaints were about the quality of medical care.

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/health/52925462.html

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    that depends on what kind of MRI is being done. it is possible that an MRI on a dog could run as high as that for a human if a pet owner was willing to pay for the more expensive types (e.g., a brain MRI is far more expensive than one for the shoulder). also, your vet was probably the only one running the MRI, that is, he (or she) acted as a radiology tech, radiologist and medical physicist all at once.
    Ok that makes sense, especially the last part. Almost all the lab work, cultures, x-rays, echo, and the MRI was done in-house by the vet. It was expensive but would have been completely unaffordable if it cost the same as human medicine.

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    After the $250,000 cap was imposed, the number of complaints against Texas doctors to the Medical Board rose from 2,942 to 6,000 in one year. More than half those complaints were about the quality of medical care.

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/health/52925462.html
    Oh ok, those numbers don't jive with TMB's own statistics but since lawyer gave those stats to a local reporter who then published them they must be true.

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    Let me get this straight. Under the current Tort Reform if a physician or hospital makes a million dollar mistake all that can be awarded in a suit is $250,000?

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    Let me get this straight. Under the current Tort Reform if a physician or hospital makes a million dollar mistake all that can be awarded in a suit is $250,000?
    We capped non-economic damages at $250,000 per defendant, or up to $750,000 per incident, while placing no cap on more easily determined economic damages, such as lost wages or cost of medical care due to injury.

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    Oh ok, those numbers don't jive with TMB's own statistics but since lawyer gave those stats to a local reporter who then published them they must be true.
    I'm just saying what I read -- there are several sources with the same number. The article in mysa is a nice one about the near complete lack of a medical error reporting system in Texas.

    And where's the savings?

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    The article Chump linked did say the number of lawsuits fell dramatically once tort reform kicked in. I'd be curious to know how many people pre-tort reform were just suing their doctors and not bothering with filing official complaints. I have a hard time believing that tort reform and the corresponding drop in malpractice insurance premiums caused some massive reduction in the quality of health care doctors started providing. It's not like if everyone's car insurance got cut in half we'd all start going out of our way to drive recklessly.

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    Strangely enough, after "tort reform" my medical costs have skyrocketed. I thought this was going to make it cheaper to care for people!

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    I'm just saying what I read -- there are several sources with the same number. The article in mysa is a nice one about the near complete lack of a medical error reporting system in Texas.
    Well that's one of the big problems with the healthcare topic. It's so easy to spin the stats depending on your position.

    And where's the savings?
    I think we've been through this in a past thread. Texas Tort reform was designed to keep physicians and insurers in the state. It has worked in those regards but I don't think will result in great savings. The argument is made that because we have more compe ion among insurers that the cost is lower than it would have been had insurers continued to flee the state. I don't know how to find meaningful stats on that. I just know I'm happy with my policy and it's not too expensive.

    More needs to be done to eliminate defensive medicine as I said. I don't know exactly how they could do that, nobody on either side has made any specific proposals that make sense to me.

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    States without "tort reform" still have doctors. There's no mass fleeing.

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    Well that's one of the big problems with the healthcare topic. It's so easy to spin the stats depending on your position.
    Well according to their own data, the number of litigations and disciplinary actions has increased quite a bit.


    I think we've been through this in a past thread. Texas Tort reform was designed to keep physicians and insurers in the state. It has worked in those regards but I don't think will result in great savings. The argument is made that because we have more compe ion among insurers that the cost is lower than it would have been had insurers continued to flee the state. I don't know how to find meaningful stats on that. I just know I'm happy with my policy and it's not too expensive.

    More needs to be done to eliminate defensive medicine as I said. I don't know exactly how they could do that, nobody on either side has made any specific proposals that make sense to me.
    It's not defensive medicine anymore with tort reform, yet it is still being done. Testing is a cash cow.

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    I'm just saying what I read -- there are several sources with the same number. The article in mysa is a nice one about the near complete lack of a medical error reporting system in Texas.

    And where's the savings?


    Greedy hospitals and doctors will just pocket the savings. Those doctors have no principles -- they'll cut off a diabetic's foot to make some cash. Obama said so:


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    Look, I'm posting YouTubes from work again!
    I'm in favor of maggot therapy to eliminate necrotic tissue in diabetic foot ulcers. Insurance should cover it.

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    We capped non-economic damages at $250,000 per defendant, or up to $750,000 per incident, while placing no cap on more easily determined economic damages, such as lost wages or cost of medical care due to injury.
    This makes more sence and an explainable reason why malpractice insurance might rise 25% because many times it cost 4 to 5 times more to fix a mistake. It also makes sense why the insurance companies are being targeted regarding trying to pass the health bill. Using malpractice premiums as an excuse as to why it needs to pass.

    Now my next question. If this bill is passed...will the government be allowed to sue a physician, hospital or pharmeceutical company for neglegence in treatment of a person being provided this insurance?

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    I still need several years of non-stop posting to catch up to your ridiculous post count CHump.

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    I still need several years of non-stop posting from work to catch up to your ridiculous post count CHump.

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    Well that's one of the big problems with the healthcare topic. It's so easy to spin the stats depending on your position.
    very true indeed. one example is that it would be just as easy to say that there are suits against doctors for the sake of getting money (which i am sure is quite true) and then there can be some who argue that there are many patients who could have sued for malpractice but never did due to being intimidated by the process (which i am sure is true as well).

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    I wonder why doctors aren't coming out in droves in support of ObamaCare/KennedyCare?

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    Look at me! I can spoof the quote feature! WEEEEEEE! Well, time to go smoke some pole.

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    Look at me! I'm posting about gay sex from work!

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