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    Marijuana is only illegal 'cause the government can't get a piece of the pie. At least not all of the pie. Plain and simple. People should exercise self control when using it. If they can't, then they have no business using it. I have a friend that went to SMU. Graduated with a law degree pretty high, no pun intended, in his class and now works for a pretty big law firm. He would get high every time he could and did so before class, so weed ruining lives is baloney. If I'm not mistaken he received a $100,000 advance when he was hired.........
    Actually, it's illegal because the base plant, hemp, was a cheaper source of fiber for paper than the wood pulp that William Randolph Hearst had heavily invested in to make paper for his news chain. That's the whole 100% reason.

    If you're "green" at all, you should favor legalization of MJ just to use the plant body to make paper instead of shredding trees up for it. Sell and tax the buds, and everyone benefits.

    Sorry about your sister, angel, but she sounds like someone that didn't use for pleasure, but to fill a hole in her life. Peeps like that will find something to use, legal or illegal. If it's illegal, it sets up a whole black market violence trip that involves people who don't use, but just get robbed and killed for drug money. Make it legal, bring it out into the light, tax it, and take the billions spent on the war lost on drugs, and put it towards rehab and therapy, and you'll have money left over.

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    Fast food- no. I would starve.

    I would love to see alcohol and tobacco be illegal. Both have caused my family a great deal of harm while costing them ridiculous amounts of money.
    If one of your family members dies of being a lard ass would you change your mind about fast food?

    I don't even think its comparable. Fast food is monumentally more destructive than marijuana. Monumentally would even be an understatement here.

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    Don't quit your day job, K?
    i think someone else got him fired

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    If it was legal for recreational use it would serve a much more productive role in society than it being illegal. Check the current state of the war on that drug.

    Marijuana being illegal for recreational use is as pointless as making Tylenol Allergy illegal unless a doctors prescribes it.
    The real issue is not the marijuna, the tobacco, and the alcohol- it is the people who abuse it and the people who make it available. Problems are caused by the disregard of the users of pot, alcohol etc of the consequences of their actions and also by the greed of the company who sells the products.

    Even if there was no more fighting over drugs, people would find something else to war over. Sadly, that is human nature.

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    Fast food- no. I would starve.

    I would love to see alcohol and tobacco be illegal. Both have caused my family a great deal of harm while costing them ridiculous amounts of money.
    Why not fast food? Because it has not harmed you? It has harmed countless families and killed more people than marijuana with obesity becoming a major, major problem.

    If you are for things that hurt people being illegal, you must be for fast food as well. Food is more addictive than marijuana.

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    The real issue is not the marijuna, the tobacco, and the alcohol- it is the people who abuse it- the disregard of the users of the consequences of their actions and the greed of the company who sells the products.

    Even if there was no more fighting over drugs, people would find something else to war over. Sadly, that is human nature.
    If the real issue isn't marijuana then stop suggesting that it be illegal. Don't provoke. Toke.

    Your last statement somewhat resembles my views on religion.

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    Food is more addictive than marijuana.
    No . I can't wait to get home and cram my face full of fettuccine alfredo with prosciutto and mushrooms.

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    pm a pic of your sister please, she sounds like my kinda gal.

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    about time people start to wake up.

    People should learn about how marijuana got illegal in the first place. Racism and ignorance helped fuel it.

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    I have never and may never use marijuana.

    However, I think that filling our prisons up with people who are fathers, brothers, 18 year olds, and so on, just because they smoked weed, is absolutely ridiculous.

    A society that allows people to drink as much as they want, chain smoke, gorge themselves on fast food, but not even own a bit of marijuana is absolutely hypocritical.

    We saw the effects of prohibition, and they were deadly. Making pot legal would completely collapse a lot of the drug trade in the United States.

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    No . I can't wait to get home and cram my face full of fettuccine alfredo with prosciutto and mushrooms.

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    about time people start to wake up.

    People should learn about how marijuana got illegal in the first place. Racism and ignorance helped fuel it.
    about time? about time?

    Millions upon millions of lives have been DESTROYED by the system because they chose to partake in the HARMLESS act of smoking marijuana. I know a few of them personally. I have been arrested on marijuana-related charges myself. The handful that are dealers might deserve a crueler fate, probably not. Mostly everyone else got the Law's boot up their ass, sometimes for life, for no goddamn reason at all.

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    Angel-luv's reaction is what is wrong with America, stereo typing and Lack of education brings out the holier than thou tree huggers. Why doesn't her sister be an adult and admit she is a up? Ir it's not weed it will be paint sniffing,frog licking, etc....

    I work at the VA and 90% of the old solderer's come in because of bad livers and over eating. No one is out to get rid of Booze,tobacco,or hostess ding dongs all three give you heart disease. If it wasn't for weed I would have shot someone by now.

    Angel-Luv means well but I think she is out of touch with the real world.

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    Marijuana is only illegal 'cause the government can't get a piece of the pie. At least not all of the pie. Plain and simple. People should exercise self control when using it. If they can't, then they have no business using it. I have a friend that went to SMU. Graduated with a law degree pretty high, no pun intended, in his class and now works for a pretty big law firm. He would get high every time he could and did so before class, so weed ruining lives is baloney. If I'm not mistaken he received a $100,000 advance when he was hired.........
    Explain to me how its big government not getting a piece of the pie that keeps MJ illegal please and how its not Big Pharma losing out when an easily available drug is a far better solution for many medical conditions they "solve" with their drugs?

    Big government stands to gain a new place to tax yet Big Pharma has a severe problem with market share loss when doctors start prescribing a joint and Merck's new wonder drug isn't needed.

    So please, explain how your comment makes sense.

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    The real issue is not the marijuna, the tobacco, and the alcohol- it is the people who abuse it and the people who make it available. Problems are caused by the disregard of the users of pot, alcohol etc of the consequences of their actions and also by the greed of the company who sells the products.

    Even if there was no more fighting over drugs, people would find something else to war over. Sadly, that is human nature.
    So explain to me why this stance supports marijuana prohibition?

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    Nice you guys was able to get Manny to come out of his cave.....



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    Manny is right, if anything, the government stands to gain from the legalization two-fold:

    1) From Tax gains

    2) From the allocation of resources and manpower.

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    about time? about time?

    Millions upon millions of lives have been DESTROYED by the system because they chose to partake in the HARMLESS act of smoking marijuana. I know a few of them personally. I have been arrested on marijuana-related charges myself. The handful that are dealers might deserve a crueler fate, probably not. Mostly everyone else got the Law's boot up their ass, sometimes for life, for no goddamn reason at all.
    ?? I was promoting the deregulation of marijuana, not for it.

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    Why not fast food? Because it has not harmed you? It has harmed countless families and killed more people than marijuana with obesity becoming a major, major problem.

    If you are for things that hurt people being illegal, you must be for fast food as well. Food is more addictive than marijuana.
    People become obese from eating too much of all sorts of food.
    Maybe we should all eat as the astronauts in space do in order to prevent that from happening.

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    My sister was addicted to pot and it caused her so many problems.
    she was the cause of her own demise... stop being so damn ignorant already.

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    about time? about time?

    Millions upon millions of lives have been DESTROYED by the system because they chose to partake in the HARMLESS act of smoking marijuana. I know a few of them personally. I have been arrested on marijuana-related charges myself. The handful that are dealers might deserve a crueler fate, probably not. Mostly everyone else got the Law's boot up their ass, sometimes for life, for no goddamn reason at all.
    In addition to the reasons why marijuana is still illegal I gave above having to do with pharmaceutical corporations, the other aspect to it is that drug laws are a huge source of income for the companies in the prison business.

    Why make fewer acts illegal when there is a huge market in this country to incarcerate individuals. The fact that prisoners are a commodity in this country now is a huge factor in keeping drug laws on the books.

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    she was the cause of her own demise... stop being so damn ignorant already.

    I acknowledge that. But the pot certainly did not put her in a more productive state of mind.

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    Explain to me how its big government not getting a piece of the pie that keeps MJ illegal please and how its not Big Pharma losing out when an easily available drug is a far better solution for many medical conditions they "solve" with their drugs?

    Big government stands to gain a new place to tax yet Big Pharma has a severe problem with market share loss when doctors start prescribing a joint and Merck's new wonder drug isn't needed.

    So please, explain how your comment makes sense.
    I know for myself when I say big government I mean the people who are supposed to represent us but instead accept the endless piles of dough for the benefit of special interests.

    Now I hate Viva but I get what his point was.

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    ?? I was promoting the deregulation of marijuana, not for it.
    cool? there never was an about time. weed should have never been criminalized. not only is it harmless, its a beautiful, fragrant, tasty plant.

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