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    NBAChamp..to be Continued SpurNation's Avatar
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    Think about it.

    The civil war was fought by the north to insure that we as a people had the right to "individually" make our decisions in life.

    Today's expanding government controll is making us slaves to the agendas of the political elite.

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    This thread will end well.

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    Absurd concept.

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    Yes! We are exactly like the black slaves! Maybe even more so. In fact I wish I was a black slave from back then as opposed to being put through the type of conditions we have to live in now.

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    The shock was intentional.

    But the principle of the civil war was to ensure that all people regardless of race have pursuant to themselves the ability to live free without physical bondage.

    I believe we are esculating in a path of fiscal and political bondage that will eventually take our freedoms away to make those decisions for ourselves.

    That to me will be as absurd as the plight the black race had to endure during the era of slavery in this country.

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    We need another Abraham Lincoln and sequentially, we need our Martin Luther King.

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    It's healthy to have mistrust of government, especially a sprawling, invasive government.


    But to compare that with the plight of black slaves in the Civil War era?

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    Think about it.

    The civil war was fought by the north to insure that we as a people had the right to "individually" make our decisions in life.

    Today's expanding government controll is making us slaves to the agendas of the political elite.
    *super-nova straw thread*

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    I really don't know why this would be considered to be any kind of profound idea. It just demonstrates that the OP doesn't understand what chattel slavery is, or why the Civil War was fought, or what mid-19th century concepts of self-determination in America were.

    Nobody in here is going to say anything more intelligent on the interplay between state involvement in the economy and its effect on personal liberty than Friedrich Hayek did in The Road to Serfdom, insofar as he eventually got the Nobel Prize, so just read that book and quote him.

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    It's healthy to have mistrust of government, especially a sprawling, invasive government.


    But to compare that with the plight of black slaves in the Civil War era?
    My fear is that we as a people of this nation are... in the near future... are going to be as obligated to our federal owners as black slaves were to their's.

    The bondage will take on as much reprocussions both physicaly and pyscologically. It's already happening in today's society where government programs intended to help people rise from the depths of poverty instead help feed the need of dependency on those programs. The middle class is being driven at an alarming rate more and more into poverty status because of freedoms being taken away to help support the feeding of the poverty afflicted until one day we have a society much like that of the south prior to the civil war. Wealthy owners and the servants to feed that wealth. That wealth being the federal government.

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    The op is a ing re and should stop posting.

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    not even close.

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    Well, we aren't like slaves of the 1700's, but that's what the elite seem to be trying to do.

    Think about it. They think it is their right to take as much of our money as they want in taxes, and they are nice letting us keep as much as they do. Regulations and laws that are stupid. The federal government has already stolen states rights.

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    Damn. The Obama administration just auctioned me off for a couple of old refridgerators.

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    whos "they" WC?

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    Damn. The Obama administration just auctioned me off for a couple of old refridgerators.
    i looked up your value in the blue book.

    thats a fair offer.

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    i looked up your value in the blue book.

    thats a fair offer.


    This being a slave thing sucks.

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    This being a slave thing sucks.
    i kid.

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    ^^^ it's all good. I laughed.

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    I really don't know why this would be considered to be any kind of profound idea. It just demonstrates that the OP doesn't understand what chattel slavery is, or why the Civil War was fought, or what mid-19th century concepts of self-determination in America were.

    Nobody in here is going to say anything more intelligent on the interplay between state involvement in the economy and its effect on personal liberty than Friedrich Hayek did in The Road to Serfdom, insofar as he eventually got the Nobel Prize, so just read that book and quote him.
    Do you think we are going to have a choice if governemt expands to the point where we have to function to serve it's agenda?

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    Do you think we are going to have a choice if governemt expands to the point where we have to function to serve it's agenda?
    Seriously, read the book I recommended.

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    Seriously, read the book I recommended.
    Will do.

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    Well, we aren't like slaves of the 1700's, but that's what the elite seem to be trying to do.

    Think about it. They think it is their right to take as much of our money as they want in taxes, and they are nice letting us keep as much as they do. Regulations and laws that are stupid. The federal government has already stolen states rights.
    It's sad to think of all those slaves earning $100,000+. It's far better to earn less than that and not be a slave. Also, you get tell all those high-earners what to do or else they'll be whipped or starved for a while, and you get to rape their women, too!

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    The civil war was fought by the north to insure that we as a people had the right to "individually" make our decisions in life.
    Read a book.

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