Stephen Jackson wants out of GS

[Culburn369]

sj pulling a kobe

...also sj pulling a Spurs Rodman.

[JJ Hickson]

Yep, they sit over and lament their injuries and injustices, and their injuries. They also play host to the Pistonage that come in there: they talk about when they beat 'em in the Finals and how they were a worthy opponent and that they felt bad for beating them, but, that they built them there own wailing wall down the way and for them to go in there and commiserate with their fellows. Then they go back to lamenting their injuries and examining Pop's for the secrets to why it does not stink. Then back to the injury lamenting and that if they can just get the planets aligned, dogs & cats sleeping together, grace from Stern they can get another ring to go with the 3 regular ones they got, + that strike 1.

Epic.

[VivaPopovich]

He should want out of his ugly mindset instead.

But hey, at least he makes the covers of SLAM Magazine... right?

[kamikazi_player]

I don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't mind him going back to the Spurs. He has the 3 point shooting ability and the defense we need to impose a bigger threat in the west. I don't know who to give up for him though.

[monosylab1k]

According to dallasbasketball.com, Nellie is working up a trade proposal to offer to the Mavericks, probably involving JJ Barea and expiring contracts. there's a zero percent chance it happens, though.

[Findog]

According to dallasbasketball.com, Nellie is working up a trade proposal to offer to the Mavericks, probably involving JJ Barea and expiring contracts. there's a zero percent chance it happens, though.

I guess I'd be in favor of it; you can never have enough good players. Do you think SJ would be only playing 25-30 minutes a night?

[monosylab1k]

I guess I'd be in favor of it; you can never have enough good players. Do you think SJ would be only playing 25-30 minutes a night?

I'd absolutely love it, especially if Barea is involved. That way, JET takes more of the backup PG minutes. Jackson is versatile enough to play SG or SF, so instantly instead of having a lack of size/depth at SG, we've got a plethora of it. I'd work the minutes as such -

PG: Kidd 30, JET 18
SG: Howard 25, Jackson 13, JET 10
SF: Marion 25, Jackson 17, Howard 6
PF: Dirk 30, Thomas 11, Marion 7
C: Gooden 25, Dampier 18, Dirk 5

Considering how old the team is getting, reducing everyone's minutes just a little bit is a good idea. The only pickle is who would be the Final 5 in crunch time? I'm guessing -

Kidd
JET
Jackson
Marion
Dirk

?

[monosylab1k]

And if somebody's minutes have to be reduced drastically, then I'd have no reservations reducing JET's role on the team. He's been great for many many years for Dallas, but he's too streaky and undersized to ever be really trusted.

[Findog]

One has to wonder though if the Mavs are interested in taking on Jackson's contract. And the db article says Ellis is available too and they would be a package deal. You want Jackson, you have to take Ellis too.

[monosylab1k]

One has to wonder though if the Mavs are interested in taking on Jackson's contract. And the db article says Ellis is available too and they would be a package deal. You want Jackson, you have to take Ellis too.

If they're truly in win-now mode and aren't just stockpiling expiring contracts so that Mark can masturbate to the fiscal savings every night, then this part 2 of the Mavs very own "Gasol deal". Getting Marion for nothing isn't quite Gasol level, but getting Marion/Jackson essentially for JJ Barea absolutely is.

And if we take Ellis, they have to take Josh. Otherwise no deal. That's how I'd play it.

[Findog]

If they're truly in win-now mode and aren't just stockpiling expiring contracts so that Mark can masturbate to the fiscal savings every night, then this part 2 of the Mavs very own "Gasol deal". Getting Marion for nothing isn't quite Gasol level, but getting Marion/Jackson essentially for JJ Barea absolutely is.

And if we take Ellis, they have to take Josh. Otherwise no deal. That's how I'd play it.

Yeah, if we get Jax/Ellis, then there's suddenly a logjam at the 2/3 spots.

[IronMexican]

If SA got him, I'd put them above the Lakers. If Dallas got him, I'd put them on par with LA. Be interesting if he went to either team.

[My Fault]

Opps. I forgot. The Spew homer also says you are mad when you state facts about that ty team or you are jealous.

to the Spews homer.

looks like I was right... You meet that special someone one day don't worry about it. Afterall there's more to life than basketball so no need to be bitter

[Culburn369]

Afterall there's more to life than basketball

That's what they say after the Mavs stomp a mudhole in your ass and then proceed to walk it dry.

[Sdayi135]

If they're truly in win-now mode and aren't just stockpiling expiring contracts so that Mark can masturbate to the fiscal savings every night, then this part 2 of the Mavs very own "Gasol deal". Getting Marion for nothing isn't quite Gasol level, but getting Marion/Jackson essentially for JJ Barea absolutely is.

And if we take Ellis, they have to take Josh. Otherwise no deal. That's how I'd play it.

Would you be willing to part ways with Josh Howard to do the deal though? I thought he was pretty much "untouchable."

[Muser]

If SA got him, I'd put them above the Lakers. If Dallas got him, I'd put them on par with LA. Be interesting if he went to either team.

If healthy then I agree, Jackson would cancel out the Odom advantage.

[jack sommerset]

The Spews should not think twice about this. Just ing do it. Mangoo for Jackson.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Well first off, unless an offer just blows away the Warriors, I don't see Don Nelson doing cuban any favors. Also as mentioned in another post the thought of Ellis being involved is again, unlikely unless the offer blows the warriors away. I think Ellis is only 24, plenty of time for him to get better.

Ellis and Jackson are both in Nelson's dog house. When Nelson doesn't like a player, he makes rash decisions, his beef with Cuban wouldn't matter.

[Sdayi135]

Didn't Ellis sign a ridiculous extension last summer or the summer before?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Plus Ellis and Jackson would cost a lot for the Mavs. Maybe both Terry and Howard, that would be too high a price for cuban in my opinion.

I think they're willing to trade Jackson and his bloated contract for nothing at this point.

One team that's absolutely moronic for not going after captain Jack is the Cavs. Jamario Moon and Anthony Parker aren't gonna cut it.

[anonoftheinternets]

are u kidding, no way GSW give up monta ellis ... hes got a real chance to be brilliant in this league. If Dallas gets ellis and steph jack that would awesome for them.

[anonoftheinternets]

oh forgot gsw has stephen curry. I think Dallas should pull the trigger if they hav a shot. They will immediately go from very good to elite.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

They can't trade either of those two for another month or so. Chances are Mike Brown wont give up Delonte West though, and Gibson is pointless on the warriors with Curry and Ellis still around. The Cavs simply put don't have the pieces.

Plus the Warriors have a pretty solid fan base, but a trade of 1 or 2 of their top players would just kill their support.

I'm not saying trade those two.....I was saying that those two aren't good enough to fill the role they're supposed to be filling.

And why not trade Mo Williams? What has he done to achieve this untouchable status he has?

[monosylab1k]

Well first off, unless an offer just blows away the Warriors, I don't see Don Nelson doing cuban any favors. Also as mentioned in another post the thought of Ellis being involved is again, unlikely unless the offer blows the warriors away. I think Ellis is only 24, plenty of time for him to get better.

I don't think GS wants a straight up salary dump either, but would Dallas really be willing to give up either JET Marion or Howard for only Jackson (plus a player or two to make the numbers work both ways)? Don't forget the Mavs have 90 million dollars on the books right now making the numbers have to match up pretty damn close.

Now looking at the 4 teams Jack would like to be traded to I really only think the Mavs and the Spurs have the pieces to get him.

Mason+Bonner+Finley for Jackson is a pretty good offer. All three players have expiring contracts and they fit Nelly's system of shoot first play defense every now and again.

The only way I see the Mavs making a better offer is if it is Jackson for Terry, but I can't see Cuban wanting to make that move.

All I said was that supposedly a source close to Nellie says he's preparing a trade proposal for the Mavericks before any other team.

[DPG21920]

That would suck if they got Jackson without giving up any talent. If they can keep Josh, Marion and Jet while getting Jackson that would suck.

Especially if Josh commits to the 6th man role with Terry or Jackson does.