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Mission accomplished...
LEONARD has to be a troll. No one can be that stupid.
Fedor at least had a solid martial arts background. Sambo is a martial art that he has ruled at for awhile, right? You should know your man crush.
Go shave your head, and watch that projector there big guy. DUDE IT'S HD IN A SMALL ROOM WHERE THE VIEWING DISTANCE ISN'T PROPER BUT MY FRIENDS LOVE IT. I GOT IT AT COSTCO, YO! WHO'S COMING OVER HOLMESeses? I USE SLANG BECAUSE I'M UNEDUCATED AND I SAY STUPID TO DEFEND FEDOR. WOOT! WOOT! HOLMESes.
Mission accomplished...
fedor ''can crusher''
Hard to counter that one...damnit!!
It's hilarious how somebody that knows nothing about me make all kinds of ridiculous claims about me...I guess he thinks a few people might belive? Or maybe he's just in' insane...
Yeah i gotta say to read the quotes it feels like you slept with his woman or never paid an old gambling debt..It's hilarious how somebody that knows nothing about me make all kinds of ridiculous claims about me...I guess he thinks a few people might belive? Or maybe he's just in' insane...
I may disagree with you about Fedor but i don't have anything personal against someone, i know nothing personal about..
If Dan Miragliotta where here, this arguement would have been stopped long ago, maybe even prematurely
DJohn for the win..
I don't have to believe it. The only fact I need is that you are a moron and use words like HOLMES. LOL. You believe Kyle Maynard can fight MMA. LOL. Rogers versus Fedor is an awesome fight and Overeem is definitely going to be an awesome fight -- just as a prediction of what you'll say when that fight is scheduled. Throw all logic and reasoning out the window.
Don't worry man; I'll support Kyle and his MMA endeavors. LHK!
He just makes it up as he goes...Yeah i gotta say to read the quotes it feels like you slept with his woman or never paid an old gambling debt..
I may disagree with you about Fedor but i don't have anything personal against someone, i know nothing personal about..
I said HOLMES one time in a sarcastic way, which you somehow turned that into me being an uneducated moron... (mechanical engineer, BTW)
Just like you saying I'm a fatass...WTF do you know? You're just making yourself look insane.
You've twisted the Kyle Maynard stuff all up from day one. Completely pointless to even address it again. You believe what you want to believe...your referring to Maynard is an absolute waste of time. I guess you think it discredits what I say in some way? I don't get it.
I've NEVER said Fedor vs Rogers is an "awesome fight" (again, you take what I say and twist it up). I've stated that Rogers is top 10 (fact), he's a legit threat (IMO), he's the best test Fedor will have had since Crocop in 2005 (IMO), and he's in the same tier as Carwin, Cain, Dos Santos (since we know about as much about all of them as of right now...IMO). You countered with babbling bull about no wrestling credentials, AA's glass jaw, etc. Where is YOUR logic and reasoning for saying that Rogers is "out of shape?" Back up what you say with SOMETHING. BTW, you missed a ton of sarcasm a few posts back before you went on the insane personal attack rant...
Overeem is also a threat and a solid matchup. He's been very good since he stopped cutting ridiculous weight to get to LHW. I think the only "awesome" fight for Fedor is Lesnar. Couture would be the next best thing just because it's Couture, but he would get annihilated at this point...
Rogers is a legit threat to a degree and its likely the best fight we will ever see out of Fedor outside the UFC which is something I am sick of saying.
I like Rogers...I have been following his career since I saw highlights of him on on some blog when he used to fight for EFX but I don't think he offers much in the way of possibly defeating Fedor. While a true legit blue chip prospect, Rogers hasn't done aside from knocking out Arlovski so one fight doesn't make someones career. But it shows Rogers is fierce and doesn't know when he is supposed to lose.
Anyway...it will be fun to watch.
Last edited by Evan; 08-29-2009 at 10:06 AM.
Yes. I turn everything you say. I said Maynard is ing idiot because he thinks he is fighting MMA. You say he is training in mma. How ing dumb can you be? HE ISN'T TRAINING NOR WILL EVERY TRAIN MMA. How ing dense are you? Use your intelligence and quantify it for us. Quantify how good Rogers is for beating AA and a guy that is 7-28. Quantify how great of shape he is compared to Tim Sylvia. You seriously need to reconsider if that Mechanical Engineering degree was worth it.
Just because someone is "RANKED", which is usually an OPINION and not based on a set of mathematical or empirical data, doesn't mean they are good. Look at boxing for the reasons why.
It's not babbling bull , when it's obvious that most of the top fighters have a long background in martial arts, be it sambo, wrestling, karate, etc. So that is babbling bull ? I get it. You need to have no arms and legs to be a real martial artist. Sweet. Thanks HOLMES. You prove my points once again.
He trained in an MMA gym for his fight...that was my point. Most here joked about it and said he would get killed (which he didn’t). I said he’s a smart kid and he wouldn’t go into something that would result in him getting smashed. You specifically dismissed him as an “idiot” which is extremely short-sighted. He accomplished what he wanted to accomplish. End of discussion. I damn sure never said he would amount to anything in MMA. I said he might do ok in THAT fight due to his wrestling/grappling (didn’t know the opponent and we knew that striking would be limited at that point). Nothing more…
What does Tim Sylvia have to do with Rogers? I guess you’re judging his condition based on physique? So he doesn’t look like Lesnar (who beat-up a 2-5 guy in his first fight, since we’re talking about 1st pro fights)…neither does Fedor. You act like he’s Ricco Rodriguez or Tank Abbott…
He’s just a big dude. Doesn’t mean he’s out of shape. You certainly don’t know that he is anyway. At least you haven’t provided anything that shows you do??? All I’m saying is we haven’t seen anything that would lead us to believe he doesn’t have a decent gas tank.
Actually, BE's consensus rankings are mathematical in nature...and about as good as rankings can be done IMO.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/rankings/heavyweight
Based on the premise that all MMA rankings are subjective but that it’s still useful and informative to know who the online MMA community as a whole ranks as the best fighters in MMA, we collect and average the rankings of the top MMA websites to produce our consensus rankings. Show more »
We compile the top MMA rankings from each of our sources and award 25 points for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to “normalize” the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. This formula ensures that each ranking site awards the same number of total points regardless of how many fighters they choose to rank. Each fighter’s total is divided by the number of possible points to determine their standing in the Consensus Rankings.
Perhaps you weren’t aware of how they’re done?
So based on what we know about Rogers at this point, MOST feel he's pretty good...and worthy of being in the top 10. You may disagree, but the “experts” from various MMA sites don’t.
Sweet...another Maynard reference...I've been discredited once again!! Damnit!!
You don't have to have a LONG martial arts or wrestling background to be good. Dismissing him because he doesn’t have a “national wrestling” background is weak. So he grew up on the streets of Chicago and then learned to fight in an MMA gym. Doesn’t matter to me…
when is this happening?
You're the one who babbles bull . HE DIDN'T FIGHT AN MMA FIGHT. IF YOU CHANGE ALL THE RULES TO MAKE IT A GRAPPLING MATCH. IT'S NOT AN MMA FIGHT. HE DIDN'T TRAIN MMA. What point of that don't you get? haha.. you are seriously the world's biggest idiot. Only a ing idiot like you would think a man with no arms and no legs can compete in an mma match. Yes, he is an IDIOT. I don't care how much you love his . HE WOULD GET SMASHED IF HE FOUGHT MMA. HE DIDN'T FIGHT MMA.
Those rankings take an arbitrary forumla of ranking opinion based rankings and that is somehow is a mathematical truth? Again, you are the BRIGHTEST. I hope America's education isn't being shown by your inep ude. I hope you are just pretending to be an ME, I'd suspect you have a mental handicap based on your reasoning.
2-5 is the same as 7-28. Check HOLMES.
Ricco Rodriguez also smashed AA. Funny you bring that up.
How about you take a poll and compare Carwin or Lesnar to Rogers and see who people say is out of shape. kthxbye.
I said it's been proven that a strong martial arts background means something. I'll add "Grew up on the mean streets of Chicago" when I look at prospects. you're dumb.
No wonder you think your kid is actually yours and your wife isn't cheating. LOL. Ignorance is bliss HOLMES. Go Maynard!
That wasn’t the first time there has been an MMA match with modified rules. Call it want you want…he accomplished what he set out to accomplish. He didn’t get smashed like everybody said he would.
You said they weren’t mathematical, but they’re as mathematical as RANKINGS (which are based on opinions AND results) can be. FACT: Experts agree that Rogers is a top 10 HW. You don’t…fine.
I never said they were the same did I? Both suck…but the 7-28 guy at least has some experience. My point is that you’re ripping Rogers for fighting a 7-28 guy a year before Lesnar fought his 2-5 guy. Who ing cares! Rogers fighting a 7-28 guy in his first fight has ZERO impact on who he is as a fighter today, yet you referenced that fight in your attempt to downgrade him. Genius.
Funny you bring up Ricco of 8 yrs ago when I was clearly referencing fatass out of shape Ricco today. Genius.
Kthxbye? Seriously?
Where did I say that Rogers is in the same condition as Lesnar or Carwin? You just continue to pull your own conclusions from everything I say.
Where is your proof that he’s out of shape?
I agree that a strong martial arts / wrestling background is typically a good start…but it’s not a requirement and isn’t a reason to downgrade a guy.
Um…wow…
Once again, acting like you know me. You must have a pathetic life to say something like that to somebody you don’t even know…
Again. You're a ing idiot. People didn't even know the rules until the day of the fight or the day before. So, they were saying he would get smashed, which he would have if he would have fought an MMA match. Try to understand the words that I am typing. I know it's hard.
Rankings aren't mathematical. What don't you get? You are saying one site that uses mathematics to align a bunch of opinions is now mathematical. That site isn't using matematics as an exclusive of opinions to rank those fighters. You sir, are a genius.
Yes because comparing Lesnars first match of 2-5 is the same. Because he hasn't been fighting guys before his FIFTH fight that have been former champions is close in comparison. Gotcha GENIUS.
Pointless
Indeed. You're too stupid to comprehend. Go post some BE or FL links.
Of course...that's all I do according to you and Mr Dio...good company!!
So uh, what exactly do you contribute to this forum? Aside from negativity, bad picks, and made-up personal insults towards me?
Negativity? Towards you? I just call you on your stupidity.
Bad Picks? Am I to win something? Is this a compe ion? I merely choose who I want to win. Is that hard for you to comprehend? As I've stated before and has held true, you can go back and look at the betting odds for all the events. If I were to choose those who have the better odds, I could be in the lead. Sweet. I'd be soooo super duper cool and could post stuff like "IM IN THE LEAD ES." So what difference does it make? I'm simply stating who I like to win.
E.g., Couture is better for the sport if he wins because people adore him. It garners more fans. Maia would have been better to win because Marquardt will get smashed again, and at least if Maia gets Silva to the ground he actually might win. Etc. Etc.
I'm glad you have no negativity and bring tons too.
You're just so full of MMA intelligence you can't simply state that Maynard trying his hand at MMA is pathetic and a digrace to the sport. No, that would be too simple. You simply can't say that it's a travesty that Fedor didn't sign with the UFC, you have to spin how signing with SF isn't bad.
You just spew utter nonsensical babble or pose your stances so you can weasel out of them. I'm going to call you France, because you don't have the balls to stand on one side of the line or the other. No wonder someone invaded your poontang. France.
Negativity in general...
Sounds like a good excuse for making ty picks.
More Maynard...sweet.
I've stated that I would prefer that Fedor be in the UFC but 3 fights in SF isn't the end of the world because they have enough compe ion to keep him busy against good guys for that period of time.
What line are you referring to exactly?
I am not sure where your at ude towards Leonard stems from but please do not highjack the thread.
Maynard will own you all day man. He'd smash you.
Yes. Luckily, I've never stated the same. You got me France, because you can't read.
Yes. That was exactly your stance in the topic of Fedor signing. You didn't come out and say "I think it would be better if he signed with the UFC." You came out and defended SF's stable of fighters from EVERYBODY who posts here on this board. You defended each of the Heaveyweights and said UFC had no compe ion for him by listing an article that debunked the UFC heavyweight stable and made your own list to dismiss them as well. I guess I understand by reading that, that everyone should know HOW you think FEDOR should be in the UFC. That conversation alone makes it all too clear France.
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