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    If Jackson is going to end up anywhere, I think it will probably be Houston. I doubt he would go to Cleveland and there's no way Nellie is trading with Cuban.

    However, word is Golden State is trying to get some cap relief so they are open to trading some rotation players. If they are really trying to get cap relief, then a trade with the Spurs wouldn't be completely out of the question. I'd love to see Jack back, but I just don't think it would happen.

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    Why would Houston want Jackson? The reason they did not sign Artest is because with his age and the length of the contract he wanted, he would not help them win a le with Yao and T-Mac in limbo. They could not build around him.

    Same with SJax. He is almost identical to why the Rockets did not want Artest.

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    Articles suggest that GS wants cap relief. I see them trading Jackson to accomplish that but no way they trade Ellis and/or Biedrins to do so too. They can get some talent in return for those guys for sure.

    Dallas is really high on Beaubois so that might be why they part with Barea.

    GS has a log jam at the 2/3 so why would they want both Finley and Mason?

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    If Jackson is going to end up anywhere, I think it will probably be Houston. I doubt he would go to Cleveland and there's no way Nellie is trading with Cuban.

    However, word is Golden State is trying to get some cap relief so they are open to trading some rotation players. If they are really trying to get cap relief, then a trade with the Spurs wouldn't be completely out of the question. I'd love to see Jack back, but I just don't think it would happen.
    Ellis, Biedrens, Maggette, Jackson. In 2012-2013, these four are the only certain contracts for the Warriors. That's four players making $41M. I think GS HAS to move at least two of them. Ellis and Biedrens both have player options for 2013-2014, so they might be harder to move. They're going to have to pay players like Curry and Randolph in a few years, and they're going to want to play them now.

    My guess is they'll move Jackson and Ellis. Jackson, in spite of the foolishness spouted here, is on a relatively decent contract. A contender won't balk at that for playoff clutch. Ellis is a bit of a headcase, but is the prototype guard to play under the new hand check restrictions, a la Parker or Devin Harris.

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    I can't see them moving Ellis unless he is a big time malcontent. Ellis and Curry could be a nice young back court for the future and then you keep Biedrins and Randolph.

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    I can't see them moving Ellis unless he is a big time malcontent. Ellis and Curry could be a nice young back court for the future and then you keep Biedrins and Randolph.
    Ellis' advocate was Mullin, who's now gone. The current FO personnel are the ones who meted out his long punishment suspension last year. Ellis made it clear this summer that he didn't want for GS to draft a PG. They drafted a PG.

    Doesn't sound like a marriage made in heaven to me. They might keep him this year unless he's actively disruptive, but if he is, they may ship him out before the deadline. I think he's gonzo by next summer at the latest.

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    I don't think Curry is a PG, but that is just me. I think he is a SG. It will be interesting to see what they do with Ellis.

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    Ok, I'll take that bet. How much?

    Jackson won't sign because he's an overrated player that takes more shots than he makes that cares more about SLAM magazine than playing good defense.

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    I don't think Curry is a PG, but that is just me. I think he is a SG. It will be interesting to see what they do with Ellis.
    He's as much a PG as Ellis is, and a better shooter by far.

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    Finley does have the Nellie connection... .

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    I don't think we need him. We need Splitter more than we need Jax.

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    Bakersfield CA, hands down. Fort Worth is pretty nasty too, but it's a diverse -hole.
    I see many of oyu have never been to Arkansas, Kentucky, pretty much all of Appalachia etc.

    Living in a trailer is one thing. Living in a town that still doesnt have running water is quite another.

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    I see many of oyu have never been to Arkansas, Kentucky, pretty much all of Appalachia etc.

    Living in a trailer is one thing. Living in a town that still doesnt have running water is quite another.
    I think the best test for white trashdom within a populace is, 'how many times does a city appear on episodes of COPS within a year?'. Observing Appalachia is like tribal anthropology. You can hardly fault them for being backwards.

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    We need a gangsta on this team. We are missing that.
    DAMN RIGHT! if you get Pimp C to rap about you than you must have done somethin. well i guess he did do something gangsta, he went straight up into the opposing teams fans seats and started brawlin. but not to mention the most gangsta thing he ever did....win the ship with the spurs

    the mans got a gun in the middle of the praying hands....thats hard

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    DAMN RIGHT! if you get Pimp C to rap about you than you must have done somethin. well i guess he did do something gangsta, he went straight up into the opposing teams fans seats and started brawlin. but not to mention the most gangsta thing he ever did....win the ship with the spurs

    the mans got a gun in the middle of the praying hands....thats hard
    Pimp C rapped about Stephen Jackon because they're both from Port Arthur. Nevertheless, Jax is the man and I've wanted him back ever since he bolted for Atlanta after the '03 Finals. Not going to happen though.

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    The Spurs would look a lot dangerous on paper, but I don't know what that would do to the chemistry. There's only one ball, Duncan, Parker, Jefferson, and Ginobili want their touches, then all of a sudden throw Jackson into the mix. I'm not too sure. It may work if everyone understands that they play in a role, and we know Duncan/Parker/Ginobili won't have a problem. However, we are unsure about Jackson/Jefferson. I wouldn't be upset if the Spurs FO pulled it off, but I don't see them doing it.

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    i could see houston in his future. definitely not the spurs.

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    i could see houston in his future. definitely not the spurs.
    totally agree. with t-mac out (and likely gone in 2010), they would have the most need for him (therefore could also offer the most minutes and shots) and they could offer a better package than Spurs or Mavs can. a package of Landry and Cook (expiring) might be quite interesting for the Warriors, overall they save about 24 million and still get back a nice player in Landry.

    on the other hand, there could be a reason why the Rockts might not go this direction, if they decide to totally restart. if they don't add long term contracts and also move Battier, they would become a major player in the 2010 free agency. (with Bosh being a possible target)

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    Rockets would make sense...but Sjax said he would like to be traded to a contender.

    Not Mavs because of Nellie, not Rockets because they are not contenders...so it would be between Cavs and Spurs.

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    Houston is one of the few teams in the league who stands a good chance at being able to actually cash in on the 2010 bonanza, so I doubt they'd be in a big hurry to take on Jackson for expirings. Now if GS would agree to something like Jackson for Battier plus a young player and/or draft pick then I think they'd pull the trigger on that.

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    Since when have any of those players complained about not getting touches?
    Selective reading. I also said we know how Duncan/Parker/Ginobili will react. What we don't know is how Jefferson/Jackson would react. Sure Jefferson might not worry about it with Duncan/Parker/Ginobili but if you throw in Jackson, he might get upset about the amount of touches he gets. We don't know how these two guys will react with limited touches, and that would affect team chemistry.

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    Rockets would make sense...but Sjax said he would like to be traded to a contender.
    sure, but Sjax isn't exactly KG or Shaq, to not only demand a trade but also dictate the destination.
    he says he wants out AND a contender AND warm weather AND whatever might be a bit to much. and I think he would still be pretty happy, if he ends up in Houston, even if they don't look like a contender for some years.

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    Rockets would make sense...but Sjax said he would like to be traded to a contender.

    Not Mavs because of Nellie, not Rockets because they are not contenders...so it would be between Cavs and Spurs.
    Houston isn't going anywhere this year, but their future isn't completely bleak. Plus Houston is pretty close to Jackson's hometown of Port Arthur.

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    Houston isn't going anywhere this year, but their future isn't completely bleak. Plus Houston is pretty close to Jackson's hometown of Port Arthur.
    Yao´s health is a big IF. So I wouldn´t put any money in their near future.

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    Jackson never complained last time he was with the team... So obviously, based on direct experience we "don't know"
    He also wasn't the fourth or fifth option. He's also become a better player since he was last on the Spurs. Who's to say he hasn't developed more of an ego? I'm not saying he has either. I'm just saying that we don't know.

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