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    As many have mentioned it would be nice to have Jack back in the Silver & Black but its never going to happen. More than likely he would be headed to the Rockets over SA, for the simple fact that they have a need and possibly better packaged deal that can make both sides happy.

    Then again this has been a of yah summer for SA, and as mentioned before are the SPURS really done making all thier moves before the start of the season..... Makes you think...... JACk could be BACK and that would deffently put us over the LAKERS by everyones views........

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    YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE, SOWHAT YOU HAVE TO SHOVEL OUT ACOUPLE MIL MORE IT WOULD BE WELL WORTH IT IN YEARS TO COME WITH INCREASE IN PUBLICITY, MARKET VALUE AND TICKET SALES. "You must spend and take risks if you want to get head in the end, that was of course before the wife took it all". lol

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    Rockets won't take on SJaxs contract, that's why they didn't offer Artest more than one year.

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    Yeah, we don't know. We don't know if Manu's health will hold up. We don't know if RJ is going to be a flop. We don't know how bad our perimeter D is going to be exposed next year. You just gotta have faith.

    If you read my first post again, you would see that I'm not against them trying to trade for him. It would be risky IMO, because there are some what if's. I'm not against it at all, just stating something that should be of caution.

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    Then if We know that Nelly wont deal with Cuban, then Spurs is the only logical choice from the Article i read..... SJax stating that we wanted to be traded to one of the Tx's teams... SPURS have a good shoot. I dont see Cleveland in the hunt because they have already made all the chances they can to thier roster this summer and manage meant stated that are not willing to go further into the luxury tax.

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    Then if We know that Nelly wont deal with Cuban, then Spurs is the only logical choice from the Article i read..... SJax stating that we wanted to be traded to one of the Tx's teams... SPURS have a good shoot. I dont see Cleveland in the hunt because they have already made all the chances they can to thier roster this summer and manage meant stated that are not willing to go further into the luxury tax.
    So Cleveland doesn't want to go further into the luxury tax but the Spurs do?

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    Bonner and FInley are mostly spot-up shooters.

    They would fit in the GS system

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    Nelson also likes Finley....


    Who doesn't?

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    You can't take Jackson's numbers over the past couple of years and use them to predict how he would be on the Spurs. He's had ty field goal percentages putting up lots of shots as the #2 or 3 option on a bad team. On the Spurs, as a role player getting open jumpers off TD post up and TP/Manu drives, he would be deadly.

    Also, as far as his cost, if you trade Mason/Finley/Marcus Williams, the Spurs only take in about $550K in additional salary for this year, which would result in about and extra $1.1 million Holt would have to pay toward player salaries. It's nothing to sneeze at, but it's also not an exorbitant request.

    Buford et al would just have to get a little creative in the coming years to carry Jackson's contract. It would be great for our le run this year and next, and hopefully by the time he regresses significantly his contract will be close enough to expiring that he is tradeable.

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    Amend......

    Which coach doesn't?

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    As sweet as it would be to have ol' Jacko back, I'm concerned he would do more damage than good. Sure he'd make a few threes and get to the cup on occasion, but isn't that why we scored RJ?? If Stephen Jackson would WILLINGLY accept a secondary role I would consider it. But I still believe that we'll win the le this year regardless.

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    Articles suggest that GS wants cap relief. I see them trading Jackson to accomplish that but no way they trade Ellis and/or Biedrins to do so too. They can get some talent in return for those guys for sure.

    Dallas is really high on Beaubois so that might be why they part with Barea.

    GS has a log jam at the 2/3 so why would they want both Finley and Mason?
    Expiring contracts. Bonner might fit into that system nicely. Ideally Bonner and Fin and a 1st rounder. That would add more to the luxury tax, but RJ, Manu, SJax and Mason would be the best wing rotation in the league without a doubt.

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    How about which currently coaching coach? Or we can bring this full circle... now which owner doesn't like Avery Johnson?

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    Why are you pink bro?

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    Segu's parents should have been sterilized.
    They got it half-right and look what happened.

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    Amend......

    Which coach doesn't?
    Amend.
    One who has repeated.

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    Mavs trading for Stephen Jackson?

    • 08:53 AM ET 08.30


    A source very close to the Golden State front office said that Nellie is leading serious in-house conversation about proposing a trade to the Mavs that would move a rotation-caliber player, possibly Stephen Jackson, from Golden State to Dallas in exchange for cap relief.

    Stephen Jackson's salary is $7,650,000 so I don't see the Spurs paying that considering they are already paying for $10 million on luxury tax.

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    You can't take Jackson's numbers over the past couple of years and use them to predict how he would be on the Spurs. He's had ty field goal percentages putting up lots of shots as the #2 or 3 option on a bad team. On the Spurs, as a role player getting open jumpers off TD post up and TP/Manu drives, he would be deadly.

    Also, as far as his cost, if you trade Mason/Finley/Marcus Williams, the Spurs only take in about $550K in additional salary for this year, which would result in about and extra $1.1 million Holt would have to pay toward player salaries. It's nothing to sneeze at, but it's also not an exorbitant request.

    Buford et al would just have to get a little creative in the coming years to carry Jackson's contract. It would be great for our le run this year and next, and hopefully by the time he regresses significantly his contract will be close enough to expiring that he is tradeable.
    Agree, Agree, Agree.

    Im tired of people saying stupid like 'the spurs are already over the luxury tax, they wont take on his contract'...this isnt a freakin FA signing we're talking about, its a damn trade people. If we make this trade and end up with his contract, which contrary to popular belief is actually a good one, we will have to unload contracts that are close to the same value. The luxury tax wont increase astronomically, if anything like Vic said it will increase by a couple of hundred thousand dollars.

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    Agree, Agree, Agree.

    Im tired of people saying stupid like 'the spurs are already over the luxury tax, they wont take on his contract'...this isnt a freakin FA signing we're talking about, its a damn trade people. If we make this trade and end up with his contract, which contrary to popular belief is actually a good one, we will have to unload contracts that are close to the same value. The luxury tax wont increase astronomically, if anything like Vic said it will increase by a couple of hundred thousand dollars.
    There is no real problem with Jackson's salary for 2009-2010 season, it will be largely balanced out by the contracts that are traded for him.

    His guaranteed salaries for the three following seasons are a legitimate concern for the Spurs or any team considering a trade for him. You may regard those concerns as inconsequential, but that does not make it so. Whether you're tired of it or not, the likelihood of a trade for Jackson is greatly affected by the dollars and years guaranteed to him.

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    Parker/Hill
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    His first two years are great value, his physical fitness right now is great and suggests that his third yr will be good as well...if anything the Spurs are taking a gamble on the 4th yr which could always be used as a trade asset, 10 mill expiring is a good trade chip. We're going to have to go into re-build mode once TD is out anyways, so I dont see why everyone is so worried about the long-term issues. This teams time to win is now, if overpaying Jax in the fourth yr is what it takes to win two or three more les I do it in a heartbeat. If the Warriors accept Finley, Bonner, and Mason for Jax than this is a no brainer.

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    Chemistry wont be an issue with Jax. He knows the Spurs system and loves it. Minutes wont be a big problem with the Spurs either as many think.

    Manu doesnt care about minutes (he has stated before) that winning is the most important thing for him. If Manu is starting or coming off the bench hes gonna play the same way. Hes already accomplished so much in his career that individual stats and glory are only second to winning for him. Jefferson also i could assume doesnt care about minutes as much as earlier in his career. He has been to the Finals twice and lost both times. Hes a very mature player who wont cause a ruckus if he gets 25-30 minutes a night knowing that its for the benefit of the team.

    Jax would make this team DAMN good. And if the Spurs are fully healthy and if Parkers game continues to improve than this team could very well be the best Spurs team of all time easily....

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    His first two years are great value, his physical fitness right now is great and suggests that his third yr will be good as well...if anything the Spurs are taking a gamble on the 4th yr which could always be used as a trade asset, 10 mill expiring is a good trade chip. We're going to have to go into re-build mode once TD is out anyways, so I dont see why everyone is so worried about the long-term issues. This teams time to win is now, if overpaying Jax in the fourth yr is what it takes to win two or three more les I do it in a heartbeat. If the Warriors accept Finley, Bonner, and Mason for Jax than this is a no brainer.
    The final two years are a concern because they will paid under the terms of a new CBA, the details of which are completely unknown. Your assumption that the contract can evolve into a trading asset is based on a new CBA that is substantially the same as the current one. There is no good reason to make such an assumption. Jackson's contract, viewed in the context of a significantly altered CBA (perhaps one with a hard cap), could make it difficult to retain Parker and RJ when their deals are up in 2011.

    The second year of the contract, while it may be appropriate in size for someone with his skills, is also problematic because of the impact it could have on retaining Manu. Again, some may not consider this to be a major concern, but the Spurs FO may.

    Back in May, I advocated for Jackson as a better trade target than Jefferson for the Spurs. Well, they have added the contracts of RJ and Dice since then. Given their current obligations and the unknowns associated with the 2011 CBA, the dollars and years guaranteed to Jackson are significant concerns.

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    And if he doesn't, will you stop posting for a year??

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    10 mill expiring will always have value, there will always be teams rebuilding that could use the cap space by season's end regardless of the CBA...which I think might change but not drastically to the point where it will alter this.

    Isnt Timmy taking a 4 mill paycut in order to re-sign Manu? Plus a couple of expirings will still be around even if this SJax trade goes down, so I think theyll be able to put a decnent deal for Manu regardless. Call me naive but I dont see him going anywhere he is way too loyal. Regarding RJ, he's going to need to take a huge paycut after the two yrs cause he aint worth what we're paying him and if he jets than Jax will still be solid by than and he can step in. We use the cap room from RJ's expiring to sign Tony and thats that.

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