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    Christ, they hand that PG job to Smush Parker (sight unseen) for two in' years of sheer agony, but, yet they won't give Farmar a straight shot. I can't reconcile it.

    If Derek Fisher was on LA in 2006 and 2007, Smush wouldn't have had the starting job. We both know that.

    They just won a championship with Fisher as the starter. Yeah, Fisher's weaknesses made your Houston series a lot tougher than it had to be, but if Farmar is playing instead of Fisher, they maybe beat Houston in 5 or 6 instead of 7, but then in the next series, Denver undoubtedly forces a game 7 and possibly wins because of the huge series Billups has on Farmar, whereas he had a lack luster series against Fisher. For all the ing you guys do about Fisher, he's won more championships than any other active PG. You want players like him who only want to win, not players like Farmar who whine about playing on a good team because it's harder for him to get points.

    If LA trades Farmar and gives all his minutes to Brown,

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    Parker getting that position like he did and Farmar not getting the opportunity is political. We're not privy to the nuts & bolts of it, but, it does not sit well with me. Before Jackson dumps Farmar I would hope he'd be given a open shot at that PG position. I just believe Jackson has already made of his mind and once that happens, it's over.

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    Parker getting that position like he did and Farmar not getting the opportunity is political. We're not privy to the nuts & bolts of it, but, it does not sit well with me. Before Jackson dumps Farmar I would hope he'd be given a open shot at that PG position. I just believe Jackson has already made of his mind and once that happens, it's over.
    Political? Farmar was a rookie iirc.

    If you're not a tall defender or a dead-eye shooter you get no love from Phil at the PG spot. Always been that way, always will.

    Shannon may be the best of both, Farmar is clearly the worse of both.

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    If you're not a tall defender or a dead-eye shooter you get no love from Phil at the PG spot. Always been that way, always will.

    "that way" has won 10 championships, so I wouldn't be ing about it if I were Cubby.

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    Lol Farmar baically telling the greatest NBA coach of all time he doesn't know what's best for his team.

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    Farmar should definitely start on the all-alien team.

    Farmar and Sam Cassell at guards, Popeye Jones, Cadillac Anderson and George Muresan on the front line.

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    If, Denver undoubtedly forces a game 7 and possibly wins because of the huge series Billups has on Farmar, whereas he had a lack luster series against Fisher.
    No that wouldn't have happened. While Farmar's defense is horrid, Derek Fisher is just as bad with worse lateral quickness. One of the worst defenders in the league.

    Besides that, JR Smith was torching Fisher in crunch time in a couple of those games. Farmar playing that series wouldn't have changed anything besides him making the offense more dynamic.

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    "that way" has won 10 championships, so I wouldn't be ing about it if I were Cubby.
    That is why I have been saying that Shannon Brown fits LA much much better than Farmar does. Brown is 6'4, strong and athletic, and can shoot the 3 ball. Farmar may thrive more in another system. That remains to be seen. However in Phil Jacksons triangle O,Brown>>>>>>>Farmar.

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    While Farmar's defense is horrid, Derek Fisher is just as bad with worse lateral quickness.

    I know, but Fisher matches up a lot better with Billups than Farmar does. If Farmar is guarding him, Billups can post up at will.

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    Farmar playing that series wouldn't have changed anything besides him making the offense more dynamic.

    The stats clearly show LA's offense is better with Farmar off the court than with Farmar on the court.

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    Christ, DUNCAN and his never ending love affair with statistics.

    Phil gave Parker a two year free ride for reasons that to this day mystify me. He is not a professional basketball player, but, yet he was granted that job without nary a question ever being raised at the time, or, since. Yet, he won't give Farmar a block of time to prove himself.

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    he talks the talk, i wish he would walk it

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    he talks the talk, i wish he would walk it
    Give him a similar opportunity that was granted on to Parker. Doesn't have to be the same two year no questions asked opportunity Smush received,,,just the first two months of the '10 season.

    Phil will never do it. He's already written him off, put him in the cornfield.

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    Don't you think he should first learn top be a solid back-up?
    Proper protocol in the NBA as in other professional sports was abandoned long ago. "deserves" has nothing to do with it.

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    I sure hope the lakers get rid of Farmar, as he has been one of their biggest bench sparks and overall pains in the ass for opposing teams the past 3-4 years.

    Brown maybe better for the starting lineup and Phil Jackson's triangle, but they are going to miss Farmar's instant offense off the bench, to which I believe he could carve out a niche for himself on that team, especially since Fisher's days are coming to an end soon.

    Problem is, he thought he was going to heir apparent to Fisher, and it looks like Brown has now laid claim to that. Poor lakers. Losing Farmar will be another HUGE gash in the their long term future (along with losing Ariza).

    As it stands the lakers have a 2-3 year window where they will compete for championships, then Fisher/Kobe/Odom/Artest/Gasol will all be hitting their low to upper 30's and will have to be augmented with talented youngsters from which the lakers reservoir will be empty.

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    As it stands the lakers have a 2-3 year window where they will compete for championships
    Sight unseen, TJ, I'd settle for that, thank you.

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    The article's from Singapore? that's a first. lol

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    Christ, DUNCAN and his never ending love affair with statistics.

    Phil gave Parker a two year free ride for reasons that to this day mystify me. He is not a professional basketball player, but, yet he was granted that job without nary a question ever being raised at the time, or, since. Yet, he won't give Farmar a block of time to prove himself.

    Smush Parker got two years because there were no better options. It's not like Phil Jackson chose Smush Parker from a pool of PG's where he had way better options.

    And that stat I posted gives evidence that's pretty much indisputable that Farmar s up the triangle and makes the team worse offensively. Call it a love for statistics, but it's a telling stat.

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    And actually Smush wasn't quite given a two year free ride. Two games before the regular season ended in 2007, Phil had it with him and benched him. Farmar started every playoff game that year.

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    Stats aren't needed to see that. DUNCANownsKOBE is on point in this one.

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    Smush Parker got two years because there were no better options. It's not like Phil Jackson chose Smush Parker from a pool of PG's where he had way better options.
    Anybody would've been more serviceable than Smush Parker. He was an unmitigated disaster. I'm confident there were waiver wire PG materiel available at the time, but, Jackson had made the choice of Parker and nothing was going to change his mind. You can bet that when Kobe went after Buss the name Smush Parker was bandied about plenty.

    So, if Parker can get that kind of unfettered opportunity to fail over a two year period, then Farmar deserves a like opportunity now. Not two years of failure like Parker received, but, two months to sink or swim.

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    LOL comparing Farmar to Parker

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    all 3 of them will be getting torched.

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    all 3 of them will be getting torched.


    so true

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    Hey, when you bozonuts can dispose of the Mavs then you'll have room to squawk.

    + it'll help ya's immensely when you go back-to-back. You look puny & weak without the repeats, squirts.

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