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Cavs only 61 wins WTF???
My list
1 Cleveland 69 13
2 Boston 60 22
3 Orlando 55 27
4 Atlanta 45 37
5 Miami 45 37
6 Chicago 44 38
7 Detroit 42 40
8 indiana/philly/toronto/milwuakee or washington
Summer Forecast: '09-10 East standings
So far our forecasts have focused on the fun stuff: Rookie of the Year, Best and Worst Newcomers, Team Turmoil, Team Turnaround, Most Valuable Player and the futures of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and Amare Stoudemire.
But now we turn our attention to the real nitty-gritty: the 2009-10 outlook for each team.
Our 53 panelists from across ESPN have predicted the number of wins and losses for each team, and today we're providing the average tally for each team in the Eastern Conference.
One important note: The order of finish is more important in these predictions than the exact number of wins and losses. When 53 individuals vote, they will almost never all agree that one team will win as many as, let's say, 65 games or that another team will win only 20 games, even though we know these things happen frequently. Why? Because these are extreme results that happen when pretty much everything goes right or everything goes wrong for a team. The panel collectively takes a more measured view, so the forecasts for wins and losses tend to float toward the middle.
With that in mind, here is what our collective crystal ball reveals:
Predicted Standings for Eastern Conference: 2009-10
CONF TEAM W L PCT 09 W 09 L 09 PCT
1 Cleveland Cavaliers 61 21 .744 66 16 .805
Let's talk Shaq, the Big Caveat Emptor: He has won four les, is on his fifth franchise and has been swept from the playoffs six times. Reborn in Phoenix, he led the Suns to exactly one playoff win in two seasons. So will he break up the Cavs with laughter or just break them up? Can't wait to find out. (Why only 61 wins? See note above.)
2 Boston Celtics 57 25 .695 62 20 .756
Many think a healthy Kevin Garnett and a revitalized Rasheed Wallace will get the Celts back to the top. (See our East le picks on Thursday.) But KG's balky knee is unproven, and Sheed is a known coach killer who is coming off a lousy season and turns 35 this month. So some voters are still in wait-and-C mode.
3 Orlando Magic 56 26 .683 59 23 .720
Orlando's magical run to the NBA Finals didn't make a believer out of everyone, and the sorta-swap of Hedo Turkoglu for Vince Carter got mixed reviews (here and here). But some like what they see, including a starting lineup that features four recent All-Stars, and expect big things again in O-Town.
4 Atlanta Hawks 45 37 .549 47 35 .573
ESPN's panelists like the Hawks as the Beasts of the Rest in the East once again, expecting the additions of Jamal Crawford and Joe Smith to keep them in the No. 4 slot. If our Eastern Conference prognostications are accurate, the Hawks will again host the Miami Heat in Game 1 of Round 1 when the playoffs begin next April.
5 Miami Heat 44 38 .537 43 39 .524
A year ago, our forecasters were all over the place in trying to guess where the 15-67 Heat would finish in '09. Now that they have seen a healthy Dwyane Wade take his team to a 43-39 finish and the No. 5 seed, our panelists expect more of the same as Miami bides its time until the summer of 2010.
6 Chicago Bulls 43 39 .524 41 41 .500
Our voters have the Bulls winning as few as 30 games and as many as 55, and perhaps it comes down to what they think of reigning rookie of the year Derrick Rose, whose scintillating playoff performance was followed by a tumultuous summer. In any case, most of our panel is bullish on Chicago overall.
7 Philadelphia 76ers 39 43 .476 41 41 .500
Our panel is hardly in love with Philly, but it still sees the 76ers squeaking into the playoffs (with an average prediction of 39.4 wins). File under "Best Guess," though, because no one knows exactly what the arrival of new coach Eddie Jordan, the return of post man Elton Brand and the departure of point guard Andre Miller really mean.
8 Washington Wizards 39 43 .476 19 63 .232
To hopeful Wiz fans, the arrival of Flip Saunders, Randy Foye and Mike Miller along with an apparent return to health for Gilbert Arenas and Brendan Haywood will make all the difference. But while our panel sees the Wiz as probable to make the playoffs (with an average prediction of 39.1 wins), it still doesn't see them as true contenders.
9 Toronto Raptors 39 43 .476 33 49 .402
If you have to be cruel to be kind, then our panel is killing Toronto with kindness. After Monday's prediction that Chris Bosh would depart in 2010, now our forecasters have the Raptors missing the playoffs by 0.1 wins (with an average prediction of 39.0 wins). We'll see if the addition of Hedo Turkoglu is the tonic in Toronto.
10 Detroit Pistons 38 44 .463 39 43 .476
Detroit fans are already defining success downward, and our panel says they have the right idea. If our forecast plays out, the Pistons will miss the playoffs for the first time in nine seasons, and will have a lottery pick to show for their hotly debated trade of Chauncey Billups and acquisitions of Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.
11 Charlotte Bobcats 35 47 .427 35 47 .427
Michael Jordan's Bobcats are stuck in purgatory, according to our panel: too talented and well-coached to be terrible and get a high lottery pick, but not talented enough to make their first-ever playoff run. So what does all that mediocrity and a swap of Emeka Okafor for Tyson Chandler get you? Another 35-47 season.
12 Indiana Pacers 33 49 .402 36 46 .439
For three straight seasons, the Pacers have been the East's best lottery team. Alas, our panel doesn't see their inglorious run of ninth-place finishes continuing, as Indiana looks like No. 12 material to ESPN's experts. The biggest issue seems to be a depleted talent base unreplenished since the Pacers' recent glory years.
13 New York Knicks 32 50 .390 32 50 .390
It has been a strange offseason in New York, with doomed bids to sign 1995 co-rookies of the year Jason Kidd and Grant Hill, a field trip to witness Eddy Curry's waistline and endless negotiations with free agents David Lee, Nate Robinson and Ramon Sessions. The reason, of course, is the summer of 2010. In the meantime …
14 Milwaukee Bucks 30 52 .366 34 48 .415
With questions about Michael Redd's knee, Andrew Bogut's back, Charlie Villanueva's replacement and the PG position, Milwaukee is one of the NBA's true mystery teams. Could coach Scott Skiles lead the Bucks to a surprise playoff run? Could they fall apart and lose 60 games? As the saying goes, that's why they play the games.
15 New Jersey Nets 29 53 .354 34 48 .415
No franchise has more uncertainty about its future than the one that has traded away Jason Kidd, Richard Jefferson and Vince Carter in the past two years and made many false starts in its bid to get to Brooklyn. But the silver lining is the Nets have some good young talent and should have a high lottery pick and lots of 2010 cap space.
Cavs only 61 wins WTF???
My list
1 Cleveland 69 13
2 Boston 60 22
3 Orlando 55 27
4 Atlanta 45 37
5 Miami 45 37
6 Chicago 44 38
7 Detroit 42 40
8 indiana/philly/toronto/milwuakee or washington
cavs record in 2010-2011:
16-66
lol
Only if LBJ will leave maybe.
But we all know he gon stay in Cleveland
So true. Enjoy it while you can Cleveland.
^ that means that LeBron James lead the Cavaliers to 50 wins by himself.Than, that also means that LeBron is the best player in the league !
LeBron James is Most Valuable Player you just accepted it too!!!
I think Washington will finish higher than 8th. I'm picking the bucks and the Knicks to be the two worst teams in the East. I also think Toronto will make the playoffs and the Bulls will finish higher than #6(maybe #4).
They specify the # of wins isn't that big a deal and I agree. in the west they have the Mavs winning 50, Spurs winning 54 (just like last year), and Lakers winning 62 (despite upgrading). I expect all 3 to surpass that. Last year the Mavs were supposed to be 45-37 and Spurs 47-35 Lakers 55-27 and all 3 surpassed it comfortably.
They came out w/ West standings today as well . 1 LA 2 SA 3 PORT 4 DEN 5 DAL 6 UTA 7 NO 8 PHX
Fair, LA is clear #1, SA is clear #2 (on paper), DEN/DAL/PORT seem to be 3/4/5 cluster that can go either way, NO/UTAH #7 and PHX to me is clear #8
Damn Ghazi, I agree with 99% of this post. While I think PHX has the best chance to be #8, I think they will be pressed by OKC.
Nice observation but I would put DEN/DAL over POR and NO over UTA.
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