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  1. #126
    Believe. Mori Chu's Avatar
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    I think they should start Farmar. He was amazing a couple of years ago, but then he took a major step back. There are just some guys like that in the NBA where they have to be healthy and have to have the team's vote of confidence, and then they start playing great ball. But you can't just bring them in off the bench and yank them around and expect commensurate production.

    Fisher is a walking corpse, and Brown is fool's gold. Farmar has legit skills and is experienced enough to run the offense. Start him.

  2. #127
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    and Brown is fool's gold.
    See, what'd I tell ya: Sun's Fandom is the most knowledgeable & experienced in NBA arts & letters. It's the damnest thing I've ever seen.

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    Farmar played so horrible last season, if it wasn't for Sasha, Farmar would've been the one getting booed. Now he should start?
    Uh, oh, Luva is back from his vacation and he just threw a turd into my pool!

  4. #129
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    Brown was desperate to prove himself last year. Just like farmar/vujacic was desperate a couple of years back. They always settle down to their true potential.

  5. #130
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    See, what'd I tell ya: Sun's Fandom is the most knowledgeable & experienced in NBA arts & letters. It's the damnest thing I've ever seen.
    I said Farmar over Brown first. I am a Spurs fan. But who knows, a lot will depend on next year.

    Famar is the better player, but if he does not play his best, or has an at ude problem and Brown steps up, it will be Browns.

    If they both suck, then.......

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    Fisher is a walking corpse, and Brown is fool's gold.

    So the 25th pick in the draft is fool's gold, and the 26th pick in the draft is starter's material? I don't understand that logic.

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    I love these elementary, yet hilarious nicknames Lakaluva comes up with (Fartmar, Jefferson )

  9. #134
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    I love these elementary, yet hilarious nicknames Lakaluva comes up with (Fartmar, Jefferson )
    Yep, they're peaches!

  10. #135
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    I never understood the fascination with that Brown guy among Laker fans. He'd come in, with the crowd fully begging him to play passable ball, and he'd have 25,000 volts of adrenaline in his veins, hoping he could deliver for them. He played hard and did ... okay. But I never once saw the guy and thought, "This guy is a rotation NBA player for a championship team."

    Farmar, on the other hand, ... early in that one season, I think it was 2 seasons ago, he just came out like gangbusters. He was leading that team, destroying everybody. Had crazy speed, his shot needed to be respected; he gave that team a legitimate edge and scared the living out of me as a Laker hater. But then he faded. I forget why, exactly; nagging injury, or being in the coach's doghouse, something. Haven't seen him play quite the same way since.

    I guess my point is, I've seen both these gents' ceilings, and Farmar's is ridiculously higher than Brown's. Farmar is the truly valuable player here. If you don't want him, me and my Suns would be happy to take him off your grubby Laker hands, gargantuan ears and all.

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    And if you notice Brown is a little bug-eyed. I wonder what's that all about.

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    farmar wasnt the same after being hurt. you can only hope that was the reason for the downfall

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    It's a shame Farmar has that thing going against him. What's it called...Thats right-talent

  14. #139
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    All I remember is him coming back and torching the Spurs, then he just dropped of the radar.

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    He's in Phil's doghouse. & I don't know of anybody who's ever emerged from there.

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    He's in Phil's doghouse. & I don't know of anybody who's ever emerged from there.
    Name anyone who has ever deserved to.

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    Name anyone who has ever deserved to.
    Glen Rice.

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    After the stunt Glen Rice pulled deciding to complain about his touches in the NBA finals, he was lucky there's a trade deadline, cause he shoulda been traded right there and lost out on his ring.

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    I dont think anyone's saying Shannon is more talented than Jordan. He clearly is not. But his skillset and at ude is right for the triangle defense. He plays defense, can hit the open 3, and has a humble demeanor. Farmar is better at creating his own shot and making plays for teammates, but those are a lower premium for us since the ball is in Kobe's hands on the perimeter most of the time, as Jordan said.

    I'd like us to run some more traditional sets so that he can develop and showcase how good he can be, since I think that would also begin to get Kobe easier looks with the ball out of his hands a little more and perhaps increase his efficiency. Plus, I like Farmar. I've followed him for a while and he's a good kid, regardless of whether he's a little y or not. I want him to succeed and to be able to flourish if he can prove he's good enough to do it.

    Pure talent and skills wise, Jordan is the best PG on our team. We all know that doesn't make you the best player though, so i'm hoping his maturity develops this upcoming season so he can maximize that talent without wasting it on poor decision-making and laziness on defense.

    Shannon took much less money to stay with us when he had a great offer from Indy. I'd love to say I think Jordan would do the same but I can't, so I just hope he develops enough this season that PJ gives him enough room to play and grow so that he feels like he wants to remain a Laker.

    If not, he'll be leaving town and i'll wish him the best.

    I'd love for Kobe to not be the only playmaker in the backcourt anymore though.
    Im not a big PEr fan people get too wrapped up in stats. But I do agre with the above Farmar is trhe best PG on the team the offense is just a bad fit.
    Farmar is not as good as he THINKS he is ...but the Lakers have failed to use his strengths as well. anytime he is allowed to run and get out in transition he does well and is a good drive and dish player and underrated finisher. If he does truly want to be a Laker he NEEDS to improve his defense, (though it's not horrible, and his standstill jumphot) his decision making is just crappy cuz he tries too hard ...

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    After the stunt Glen Rice pulled deciding to complain about his touches in the NBA finals, he was lucky there's a trade deadline, cause he shoulda been traded right there and lost out on his ring.
    Nonsense.

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