Get to know Marcus Haislip

[poop]

Yeah...it's not like 400lbs is an otherworldly amount. I haven't maxed out in forever but I could probably get 350 up and he is quite a bit bigger than me.

id consider it otherworldly if a non-juicing 6-10 man with 4-foot long skinny arms with small joints and a lanky frame and nowhere the muscular development typically necessary could bench anywhere near 400lbs.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Does Odom play SF only during garbage time?

Well if you had done your research or watched the Lakers at least a couple of times you would know when and how much he plays at SF.

[ceperez]

At least do some research, any research. Lamar Odom played SF in about 1% of all his minutes last season. He played over 98% of his minutes at PF. Look it up before you post.

And as I pointed earlier, if he defends Dirk it will be as a PF not as a SF. Dallas does not play Dirk with two other bigs. You can look that up as well.

Haislip may very well be used to defend mobile PFs like Dirk, Odom, and Lewis. When he does, he will be playing PF not SF.

Then by your logic, Dirk and Odom shouldn't create match up problems because their size 7'0" and 6'10" are not out of the ordinary for a PF position. You got to realize, they play a SF role in their offense and that causes match up problems because a SF is too small and a PF typically is too slow.

Now speaking about Lewis, this guy hangs around the 3 point lane and rarely ever has a post-up game. Is that a PF? Maybe only in position, but not in function.

These guys play SF in offense and have the luxury of playing the PF in defense simply because of their height (not effectively, but adequate enough).

Duncan on the other hand, is a real PF, but don't expect him to guard the likes of Dirk/Lewis/Odom because he isn't quick enough.

Now look at our main compe or the Lakers. Bynum is a true center, Gasol is a true PF, Bryant is a SG, Fisher an SG and Odom well he can play PF but creates match up problems when he plays his natural position, that is a SF. Odom starts his offense from the 3pt, he can take a shot from there or dribble penetrate if he needs to. Do PFs do that?

Now look at Haislip, same thing, he can start his offense from beyond the 3pt line, take his shot from there or dribble penetrate. His low post game, just like Odom's isn't that great. So in situations with true PFs, McDyess or Blair should do much better.

[Mel_13]

Then by your logic, Dirk and Odom shouldn't create match up problems because their size 7'0" and 6'10" are not out of the ordinary for a PF position. You got to realize, they play a SF role in their offense and that causes match up problems because a SF is too small and a PF typically is too slow.

Now speaking about Lewis, this guy hangs around the 3 point lane and rarely ever has a post-up game. Is that a PF? Maybe only in position, but not in function.

These guys play SF in offense and have the luxury of playing the PF in defense simply because of their height (not effectively, but adequate enough).

Duncan on the other hand, is a real PF, but don't expect him to guard the likes of Dirk/Lewis/Odom because he isn't quick enough.

Now look at our main compe or the Lakers. Bynum is a true center, Gasol is a true PF, Bryant is a SG, Fisher an SG and Odom well he can play PF but creates match up problems when he plays his natural position, that is a SF. Odom starts his offense from the 3pt, he can take a shot from there or dribble penetrate if he needs to. Do PFs do that?

Now look at Haislip, same thing, he can start his offense from beyond the 3pt line, take his shot from there or dribble penetrate. His low post game, just like Odom's isn't that great. So in situations with true PFs, McDyess or Blair should do much better.

Thanks for making my point. When Haislip plays against the players in the examples you cite he will be on the floor with one other Spur big. The man he is guarding will be on the floor with one other big from the other team. Each team will have 3 other players on the court, two guards and a SF. Haislip and the man he guards will be PFs in those configurations.

I have said several times that Haislip would seem likely to get a chance to guard mobile PFs like Dirk and Odom. That will make him a mobile PF, not a SF.

[ceperez]

I have said several times that Haislip would seem likely to get a chance to guard mobile PFs like Dirk and Odom. That will make him a mobile PF, not a SF.

Well if "mobile PF" is the term that fits you fancy, then so be it.

SF in my book.

But agree, it all depends on configuration. I however like this second team configuration:

Hill - PG
Ginobli - SG
Haislip - SF
Blair - PF
Mahinmi - C

Go to cause a lot of matchup problems for sure!

[Mel_13]

Well if "mobile PF" is the term that fits you fancy, then so be it.

SF in my book.

But agree, it all depends on configuration. I however like this second team configuration:

Hill - PG
Ginobli - SG
Haislip - SF
Blair - PF
Mahinmi - C

Go to cause a lot of matchup problems for sure!

Just tell me. Let's fantasize that the Spurs send that line up out against Dirk, Dampier, Marion, Terry and Kidd. While our SF Haislip guards their PF Dirk, who guards Marion?

Or they use it against Gasol, Odom, Artest, Kobe, and Fisher. While our SF Haislip guards their PF Odom, who guards Artest?

Or against Howard, Lewis, Pietrus, Carter and Nelson. While our SF Haislip guards their PF Lewis, who guards Pietrus?

Do you really think the Spurs are going to counter line-ups like these with Haislip and two other bigs?