Eurobasket 2009 (main thread)

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Not even 20%, not even 5%. The modern Greeks have no link with Ancient enes at all.

The only ones who maybe still have a link are the people from Crete, they have some Minoan ancestry in them.

I looked this up 20% of Greeks have blue eyes and in some places of Crete is 80%. of course I am from Crete so.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

In Greece.His father is Greek and his mother is from Cameroon.

KBP isn't Greek,he's just a clown.

off German Nazi.

[Bukefal]

First of all I have to say that I don't give a about politics and FYROM(or Macedonia or whatever).

Τhis is a basketball forum and we should talk about bball.ONLY.

But dude,please stop pretending that you know about greek history because you don't know .

Friendly and good luck to your team.

Nice to see you have a real own opinion Are you a Greek? I agree, enough politics or history, it doesnt matter. But can we all than please stop the attacking and insults too please? Also, no need to use FYROM.



All we ask.

Good luck to your team also

[Bukefal]

I looked this up 20% of Greeks have blue eyes and in some places of Crete is 80%. of course I am from Crete so.

First you say you are Greek, then you say you are Macedonian, then you say you are Cretan? If you are a Cretan how can you be Macedonian? If you are a Greek how can you be a Macedonian? Do you mean, Minoan? That's maybe what you are.

You didnt answer my question. Where was sofoklis raised? Where did he started playing basketball?

[VasP]

You didnt answer my question. Where was sofoklis raised? Where did he started playing basketball?

http://www.bigsofo.gr/site/index.php

'Sofoklis was born in Tiko of Cameroon on June 22, 1985. His father, Constantine, went to Cameroon on business and it was there he met with Sofoklis mother Georgette. For the same actual reason, business engagements that is, the Schortsianitis family came back to Greece and their first station had been Alexandropoles. Xanthi followed next and finally Kavala, where Sofoklis career started as well. At the age of 12 he began playing basketball with Hercules of Potamia - Kavala and soon the happy news made it all over Greece. His talent and his extraordinary body type and strength, always according to his age, brought him to the small national teams and at the same time, made him a target for many teams.'

[Henke]

off German Nazi.

Why I'm German?Because I have a Dirk's photo in my avatar?

I'm Greek and I live in Athens.

Now it's your turn to inform us where are you from.The truth please.

[Bukefal]

http://www.bigsofo.gr/site/index.php

'Sofoklis was born in Tiko of Cameroon on June 22, 1985. His father, Constantine, went to Cameroon on business and it was there he met with Sofoklis mother Georgette. For the same actual reason, business engagements that is, the Schortsianitis family came back to Greece and their first station had been Alexandropoles. Xanthi followed next and finally Kavala, where Sofoklis career started as well. At the age of 12 he began playing basketball with Hercules of Potamia - Kavala and soon the happy news made it all over Greece. His talent and his extraordinary body type and strength, always according to his age, brought him to the small national teams and at the same time, made him a target for many teams.'

Aha, I see. Thanks! Thats interesting, half Cameroon, half Greek. I only know he was drafted by Clippers right? I wonder if he had a tough time growing up in Greece as a black. Same goes for all of the balkans.

[VasP]

Πολλοί Έλληνες μαζεύτηκαν.

[Bukefal]

Why I'm German?Because I have a Dirk's photo in my avatar?

I'm Greek and I live in Athens.

Now it's your turn to inform us where are you from.The truth please.

Kalos Irthate Henke! Who's your fav team? Olympiacos or Panathinaikos?
Gia mas

Im also interested in KBP's background, he said he lives in Panama, right file? Speak out KBP!

[remon]

Yes i know "dude". do you?

And you still use it as your nickname? Of course, I don't expect anyone outside of the area that you try to convince about your 2000 years of history in the area and such to know that Boukefalos was the name of the horse of Alexander, and which is a greek word that means "ox-head".

Oher than that fact and the fact that if someone researches it could embarass you, when you say that modern greeks don't have any relation with ancient greeks and that your ancesty somehow has survived for over 2000 years, you insult me more than KBP insulted you, because you're insulting my intelligence.

Also, I wouldn't worry about KBP insulting you. After having been embarassed in so many fora, and him showing his total lack of any sense, KBP's insults should be more like a compliment.

And Vasp, please avoid greek in an english forum.

EDIT: For KBP-ian grammar.

[Bukefal]

Πολλοί Έλληνες μαζεύτηκαν.

Indeed, all of a sudden! Kalos irthate se olous!

[The_Game]

Pau Gasol saved Spain's ass from losing to Great Britain.

would of been a huge upset more so with Deng and Gordon missing.

[Bukefal]

And you still use it as your nickname? Of course, I don't expect anyone outside of the area that you try to convince about your 2000 years of history in the area and such to know that Boukefalos was the name of the horse of Alexander, and which is a greek word that means "ox-head".

Oher than that fact and the fact that if someone researches it you could embarass, when you say that modern greeks don't have any relation with ancient greeks and that your ancesty somehow has survived for over 2000 years, you insult me more than KBP insulted you, because you're insulting my intelligence.

Also, I wouldn't worry about KBP insulting you. After having been embarassed in so many fora, and him showing his total lack of any sense, KBP's insults should be more like a compliment.

And Vasp, please avoid greek in an english forum.

Wow another one! Well, im sorry if you feel otherwise, but be honest, modern Greeks have nothing to do with ancient enes, dont hate me, its not my fault. Of course no nation is ethnically clean, so arent my people, especially in the Balkans everything is mixed.

But I do can say that in Macedonia and the Macedonians in northern Greece have more links back to the ancient Macedonians than the modern Greeks in the rest of Greece with the ancient enes. Except for Crete maybe. I dont insult, everyone has different opinions, you have yours, i have mine, you have your view, i have my view. That i do not agree with you, does not mean that i feel you are insulting my intelligence. You shouldnt either, if you are intelligent.

[Henke]

Kalos Irthate Henke! Who's your fav team? Olympiacos or Panathinaikos?
Gia mas

Im also interested in KBP's background, he said he lives in Panama, right file? Speak out KBP!

Geia mas dude.

Panathinaikos.

KBP is just a ing sucker.I don't know his background,I hope he's going to tell us the truth.

[Bukefal]

Geia mas dude.

Panathinaikos.

KBP is just a ing sucker.I don't know his background,I hope he's going to tell us the truth.

Cool, Panathinaikos is a great club. I dont really have anything against KBP, he is a mystery to me. But I do dislike all the cursing around here. What do you think about AEK? How will they be doing next season? We have a Macedonian there now, Riste Stefanov.

[Bukefal]

Pau Gasol saved Spain's ass from losing to Great Britain.

would of been a huge upset more so with Deng and Gordon missing.

It was close. I would have loved to see GB beat them. But quality wins in the end.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

First you say you are Greek, then you say you are Macedonian, then you say you are Cretan? If you are a Cretan how can you be Macedonian? If you are a Greek how can you be a Macedonian? Do you mean, Minoan? That's maybe what you are.

You didnt answer my question. Where was sofoklis raised? Where did he started playing basketball?

WTF? I told you all this before. Stop being an ass.

[Bukefal]

WTF? I told you all this before. Stop being an ass.

Doesnt matter file.

[tso & lo Cavfanatic]

I'm sorry but all of you in this forum are prejudiced against Greeks because of KBP.
He is a liar and doubt if he is a greek guy.

Bukefal, you can believe whatever you want about your country. It's your right to believe that the name is Macedonia but you can say it publicly. Legal name of your country is FYROM and until it will change you have to agrre with it. It's a provocation to us.

[ChumpDumper]

Why is it a provocation?

What are you afraid of?

[tso & lo Cavfanatic]

Cool, Panathinaikos is a great club. I dont really have anything against KBP, he is a mystery to me. But I do dislike all the cursing around here. What do you think about AEK? How will they be doing next season? We have a Macedonian there now, Riste Stefanov.

[Henke]

Cool, Panathinaikos is a great club. I dont really have anything against KBP, he is a mystery to me. But I do dislike all the cursing around here. What do you think about AEK? How will they be doing next season? We have a Macedonian there now, Riste Stefanov.

Panathinaikos is the most successful club in Europe the last 20 years.5 euroleague les since 1996 is a great achievement.

As for AEK Athens...Best case scenario for them is to finish 4th in Greek League,it will be tough though.
Panathinaikos and then Olympiacos are by far the 2 best teams.Aris is the favorite for 3rd place and the 4th place is open for teams like Panellinios,Marousi,AEK and Panionios.

PS:Samardziski is a good player imho.Is he a starter in Zeleznik(I don't watch Adriatic league)?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I'm sorry but all of you in this forum are prejudiced against Greeks because of KBP.
He is a liar and doubt if he is a greek guy.

Bukefal, you can believe whatever you want about your country. It's your right to believe that the name is Macedonia but you can say it publicly. Legal name of your country is FYROM and until it will change you have to agrre with it. It's a provocation to us.

No they are racists against Greeks. RACIST not prejudiced. Yes I am Greek. I was born in Aghios Nikolaos.

[remon]

Wow another one! Well, im sorry if you feel otherwise, but be honest, modern Greeks have nothing to do with ancient enes, dont hate me, its not my fault. Of course no nation is ethnically clean, so arent my people, especially in the Balkans everything is mixed.

But I do can say that in Macedonia and the Macedonians in northern Greece have more links back to the ancient Macedonians than the modern Greeks in the rest of Greece with the ancient enes. Except for Crete maybe. I dont insult, everyone has different opinions, you have yours, i have mine, you have your view, i have my view. That i do not agree with you, does not mean that i feel you are insulting my intelligence. You shouldnt either, if you are intelligent.

You're just continuing to insult my intelligence.

It's like "mine's bigger". It just doesn't work that way. You can't say that your nation is "clearer" than another one, without proof, just by saying so it doesn't make it true, and most likely shows your lack of logic in this matter, or denial. Which is a bit nationalistic.

I'll tell you, my ancestry comes mostly from Eastern Thrace and Anatolia/Asia Minor. Yet, I'm blond with hazel eyes. How many Turks, which are the predominant people in these lands, have you seen with the same characteristics.

[Bukefal]

I'm sorry but all of you in this forum are prejudiced against Greeks because of KBP.
He is a liar and doubt if he is a greek guy.

Bukefal, you can believe whatever you want about your country. It's your right to believe that the name is Macedonia but you can say it publicly. Legal name of your country is FYROM and until it will change you have to agrre with it. It's a provocation to us.

Exactly, how can it be a provocation? So now i cant be named with what my name is? come on. Its also provocative to be called FYROM. We dont have a problem, the Greeks have, we dont want our land or our people back, we dont want to claim things that are not ours. We just want our name. If your name is Stavros, who the am i to tell you that you must not be stavros, but you must be Peter.