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It's a blasphemy. Macedonia is Greek.
To be true about this the people at the Poznan arena were all part of the ones that want to sake Saloniki to their borders. This sort of thing is like good way to cause a war.
It's a blasphemy. Macedonia is Greek.
Does your name end with ou?
You like it or no, your name is FYROM.I'm sorry.Exactly, how can it be a provocation? So now i cant be named with what my name is?come on. Its also provocative to be called FYROM. We dont have a problem, the Greeks have, we dont want our land or our people back, we dont want to claim things that are not ours. We just want our name. If your name is Stavros, who the am i to tell you that you must not be stavros, but you must be Peter.
I dont, im realistic, there are no clean nations in the Balkans. But, I do know Macedonians are an ethnicity, while Greeks are not. They are mostly created to be an ethnicity. To be a greek was more in a linguistic and religious sense, rather than ethnically. Maybe only just a very very small part has some ethnical links to the ancient enes. You are from Asia minor, a prosfyga if i am correct? That you are blond is possible, but let me ask you, how many Greeks with blond hazel eyes have you seen in the land? Especially in Northern Greece.
One thing is always strange to me why they choose FYROM? Because FY stands for Former Yugoslav? Is always weird to me. Is like call USA "Former England"
You do know that many Greeks lived in Smyrna? They call it Izmir now.
These are KBP's bull s
Is not bull . Macedonian blood line is Nordic genetics. I am talking about the real one.These are KBP's bull s
You are taking it to the other end now. And i have a lot i want to discuss to with you, but i dont know if thats smart thing to do in this Eurobasket forum.
Macedonia was never Greek, Macedonia is not Greek and nor will it ever be Greek. You can complain at EU and NATO all what you want, you can call us fyrom and change our flags and harass us all that you want. But Macedonia stays, we stay, our name stays, our people stay, our language stays. Time will reveal everything, Greece is losing control and you know it. It doesnt matter, over 130 countries recognized us, everyone in the world thinks about us when they hear Macedonia, everyone calls us like that, except for you. It's a pity to have a problem right? We dont have any problems.
You cant hold us down, we are what we are file.
How do you know this? You took a poll of every person there yourself?
But pretty much all of present day Macedonia is within the boundaries of ancient Macedonia.
So Macedonia is Macedonian.
Then you're just taught the wrong history in your schools.
EDIT: Meh, wrong quote.
Last edited by remon; 09-08-2009 at 06:34 PM.
Do not be stupid. The people that was holding the flag in Poznan are same way like La Raza is in Mexico.
Also the Vergina Star has nothing to do with them. NOTHING. They are taking this as a flag and symbol that was from NOT there culture.
Yeah all those 'Greeks' were forced in 1913 to leave Asia minor and come to the newly acquired lands which Greece took from Macedonia in 1912, to settle there in Aegean MAcedonia, while all Turks living in modern Greece needed to settle in Asia Minor.
The problem was, that in Aegean Macedonia, there already lived other people, the Macedonian people. The Greeks had to find space and lands and houses for the 'greeks' from Asia minor so they tortured the Macedonians living there (home) and they threatened them to get out of the country, there the Macedonian exodus started, many Macedonians fleed to other countries. The new 'Greeks' from Asia minor took their lands and their homes, they had to learn Greek and were learned that they are in fact Macedonians and that Macedonians are Greeks, and now those people from Asia minor are telling us, that they are macedonians and we not? That's absurd isnt it? While the Macedonians who did not flee had to endure torture and torture, they werent allowed to speak their own macedonian language, their churches were burned, their graves were damaged, just because they are macedonians and live in Macedonia which was sadly enough, divided into 3 parts and one part fell under new Greek territory.
Dont tell me this did not happen, you know it, damn well.
Any blondes here?
It is known that many Macedonians do have blonde hair, same as ancient macedonians. While Greeks do notThese are KBP's bull s
'Former Yugoslavic Republic of Macedonia' is a temporary name.
The country will probably be named 'Republic of North Macedonia'. This name will be used for all international purposes.
But their cons utional name will remain Republic of Macedonia.
How do you know?
Sure it was -- it's just that Greeks like to commemorate their being conquered by more virile peoples.Also the Vergina Star has nothing to do with them. NOTHING. They are taking this as a flag and symbol that was from NOT there culture.
Totally wrong.
Look at this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_naming_dispute
Anyway, I'm not claiming to be a descendant of ancient macedons. I was talking about the "cleanliness" of nations etc etc.You are from Asia minor, a prosfyga if i am correct? That you are blond is possible, but let me ask you, how many Greeks with blond hazel eyes have you seen in the land? Especially in Northern Greece.
Btw, to Chump dumper, FYROM occupies, and I'm not using the negative sense of the word here, a very small percentage of the ancient kingdom of Makedon, most of FYROMS land was called Paionia in the ancient times.
When we used this flag, Greeks did not even know what flag that was. You cant deny that before the Seventies, Greece did not know anything about Macedonia, nor alexander, nor the sun. It happened afterward, when they thought they could make profit of our history, in tourism, make money and image, when they started to promote the macedonia is greek idea. When they started all of a sudden to rename schools and airports and banks into MAcedonian bank, school, airport makedonia. This all was strenghtened when it came clear that yugoslavia would break up and macedonia would be independent soon, only then you started caring and claiming macedonia.
Did you know that before that Greece has officialy recognized Macedonia and the macedonians? Did you know that the Grandfather of Bakoyannis has done that?
True, i do not deny that. REpublic of Macedonia today, has only a small part which belonged to Ancient Macedonia, its only the south, south of Skopje, also people from the north i agree have nothing to do with ancient macedonia. Only the south.
The rest of our country was taken in 1912, when macedonia was divided and then, and only then, became Greek land for the first time.
A moderator should delete most of this posts. And this 19th century nordicist/racist crap about blond Egyptians, blond Greeks, blond Romans should not be allowed.
I saw that (I misread the legend on another map), but that seems to be where most of them were forced to go. the Turks didn't live in Asia Minor originally, but now it's Turkey. I don't see much of a difference, unless you still demand that it officially be called Anatolia.
What country are you talking about? Macedonia was a multicultural region of the Ottoman empire. Slavic-speakers, Greeks, Turks, Vlachs, Jews etc were all leaving together.
It's actually kind of fun. We should move the discussion into the political forum and talk about self-determination and such.
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