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  1. #26
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    As much as he's fallen from grace and as big of a jerk he's proven to be, one could still argue that Iverson should be on that first team. This guy keeps him off of the top three teams? Come on now. Even as a fan, I realized how much of a selfish player he is. But can you really say he hasn't been one of the six best guards over the past decade? I find that hard to argue.

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    As much as he's fallen from grace and as big of a jerk he's proven to be, one could still argue that Iverson should be on that first team. This guy keeps him off of the top three teams? Come on now. Even as a fan, I realized how much of a selfish player he is. But can you really say he hasn't been one of the six best guards over the past decade? I find that hard to argue.
    Huuuge AI fan here. But I wouldn't put him on any "best of something team". He has great stats, amazing talent, is a lot of fun to watch and plays balls out everygame. But he is too uneffective to be considered for the All-decade team.

    There's probably nobody (with the exception maybe of Manu) I'd rather watch play instead of Iverson. But if I'd have to pick players to make a winning team I wouldn't pick him.

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    How can Nash not be first team? He has back-to-back MVPs this decade.

  4. #29
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    Yeah I didn't read the whole thing, my apologies to you.
    Accepted

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    How can Nash not be first team? He has back-to-back MVPs this decade.
    That (MVP) is a political process...thus carries a scent of taint to it.

    His chronic inability to lead a team to an NBA le stains him tremendously.

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    His chronic inability to lead a team to an NBA le stains him tremendously.

    We also need to remember this is the all decade team, not the all 2005-2007 team.

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    This was an excellent way to pick the all-decade team, with a couple exceptions.

    One, they should have given bonus points for playoffs.

    Two, the number of all-star selections, all-NBA selections, MVPs, etc., should have been factered in as well.

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    This is insanity. Billups over Nash? McGrady over Vince(this one is absolutely laughable)? Nowitzki over Garnett?
    McGrady at his peak is easily better than Carter at his to say he isn't is not only laughable but illogical.

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    As much as he's fallen from grace and as big of a jerk he's proven to be, one could still argue that Iverson should be on that first team. This guy keeps him off of the top three teams? Come on now. Even as a fan, I realized how much of a selfish player he is. But can you really say he hasn't been one of the six best guards over the past decade? I find that hard to argue.
    Agreed - AI is at least on par with Ray Allen this decade.

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    McGrady was arguably the best player in the league for a few years, has Carter ever even been considered a top 10 player at any point in his career?

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    McGrady was arguably the best player in the league for a few years, has Carter ever even been considered a top 10 player at any point in his career?
    Making a lot of points on a crappy team doesn't make you the best player on the league. McGrady's case is worst than Iverson's 'cause at least AI plays hard, T-Mac is a pussy.

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    'cause at least AI plays hard
    But, only when he's in the mood, DAF.

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    Kidd Prime (earlier this decade) >>> Paul Now

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    Kidd Prime (earlier this decade) >>> Paul Now
    Jason Kidd in his prime may have been better than CP is now, but he was in no way that far ahead.

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    Um, no. And it's not even close. Talk to me when Tracy McGrady gets out of the first round. In fact, the minute he gets injured, they magically make it out of the first round. Surprise, surprise.

    Vince has not only been way farther in the playoffs, but he has never, ever had someone the caliber of Yao Ming on his team.
    Making a lot of points on a crappy team doesn't make you the best player on the league. McGrady's case is worst than Iverson's 'cause at least AI plays hard, T-Mac is a pussy.
    You guys need to actually go back and look at what T-Mac was doing in the early part of this decade. He did a of a lot more than just score points.

    His stats:

    2000-2001: 26.8 points, 7.5 rebounds, 4.6 assists, 1.5 steals, 1.5 blocks per game. On 45.7% shooting and 35% from downtown.

    Those are better numbers than Kobe Bryant put up this past year.

    And he gets even better.

    2001-2002: 25.6 points, 7.9 rebounds, 5.3 assists, 1.6 steals, 1.0 blocks per game, on 45% shooting and 36% from 3.

    And then we have the 2002 season.

    32 points.
    6.5 rebounds.
    5.5 assists.
    1.6 steals.
    And nearly a block per game.
    on 45.7% shooting.
    and nearly 39% from three point range.


    Sounds like he was playing pretty damn hard to me. That or he's the most talented player in NBA history and was doing this at 60%
    And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a season of better numbers than anyone outside LeBron James has ever managed to produce in quite some time (you could say Kobe has had perhaps seasons of close to or equal these stats, but they aren't clearly better).

    You could definitely say Kobe has had more seasons of high production, but T-Mac at his peak was CLEARLY either the 1st or 2nd best guard in the league. For about 5 years, his production was clearly at the very top of the NBA.

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    Making a lot of points on a crappy team doesn't make you the best player on the league. McGrady's case is worst than Iverson's 'cause at least AI plays hard, T-Mac is a pussy.
    You're an idiot.

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    But at least I'm not a Mavs fan.

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    lol hole country

    Your spur "fan" days are numbered too. About a year or 2 left until Manu's rotten ankles fall off and your bandwagoning ass finds another team.

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    lol hole country

    Your spur "fan" days are numbered too. About a year or 2 left until Manu's rotten ankles fall off and your bandwagoning ass finds another team.
    I was a Spurs fan long before Manu got to SA and I'll remain one after he leaves.

    And there's no better place to live than where I live: beatiful women, great food, great weather, beach, I can shower as many times a day as I want 'cause we don't have water shortage problems.
    There must really be few places better to live than in my city and Dallas sure isn't one of them.

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    lol hole country

    Your spur "fan" days are numbered too. About a year or 2 left until Manu's rotten ankles fall off and your bandwagoning ass finds another team.
    I'm a Cubs fan too. Just FYI.

  21. #46
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    I was a Spurs fan long before Manu got to SA and I'll remain one after he leaves.
    Sure you were.

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    [The minute McGrady is hurt, they get out of the first round.]

    Ruh, roh, here is that [Houston is better without McGrady Principle] again, only purported by a Spurs fellow. Any Houston fandoms care to agree? I'll be watching!

  23. #48
    this isn't long enough polysylab1k's Avatar
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    But at least I'm not a Mavs fan.
    I'm not a Mavs fan either. Sincerely I'm a fan of Thunder team and I have been a Thunder fan since as early as the accomplishment of that team, which is some truth you definitely know if you were registered earlier than when someone changed my team.

  24. #49
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    I was a Spurs fan long before Manu got to SA


    Yeah and I was a fan of the Slovenian National team before Goran Dragic was on it.

  25. #50
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    Making a lot of points on a crappy team doesn't make you the best player on the league. McGrady's case is worst than Iverson's 'cause at least AI plays hard, T-Mac is a pussy.

    I'm guessing Trajon Langdon > T-Mac???

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