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    Petrino will have that pass attack humming all year, no doubt. What about the defense Brutalis?I know it was only Mo st, but how did they look to you?

    Michael Dyer is #1(overall and position) according to ESPN, and #3(position) according to both Rivals and Scout. Not sure where you heard the #8 stuff. Makes sense that Arkansas wouldn't go after him though if they're already loaded up at the position. Auburn just picked up another (4 star) commitment at OLB, Ladarius Owens, a 6-2 225lb (with a 4.49 40 time) out of the Birmingham area. AU needs linebacker help badly, with depth there being the lowest it's been in years. Bama was after him hard as well, so this is a nice in state victory for Chizik.

    As for size when evaluating running backs, it just depends on the offense. In a spread, you like those speedy guys who can get on the outside and make things happen. AU RB Tate, who ran for over 100 yards last Saturday, is the between the tackles guy and checks in at 5-11 220. The speed guy for Auburn, McCalebb, is 5-10 165, and rushed for 148 on Saturday. La Tech actually had a fairly high rated run defense last year nationally, and they got shredded by the little guy. Will need to wait and see what he can do against the SEC before I get too excited though.

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    Petrino will have that pass attack humming all year, no doubt. What about the defense Brutalis?I know it was only Mo st, but how did they look to you?
    Mo. State only in the last couple years left 1-AA to become a 1-A school. Although this is irrelevant, Univ. of Central Arkansas better known as UCA will be 1-A in a couple years too. Which by then UA will hopefully be in the process to start scheduling Arkansas State. A State is at Nebraska this Saturday. Last season they took out A&M in a down period and the year before gave Texas a good show and their moneys worth for sure.

    Sorry for the ramble. Our defense looked pretty good overall. B+ or A- range. The talent they played in that game was far worse than the red jerseys they have been hitting in practice though. But in front of a crowd on a stage with the most expectations Arkansas has had in my lifetime they really just did their job.

    RC McCombs (spelling?) was either the AD or coach at A&M for a long time and was on the morning, mid-day and evening sports shows here in Arkansas last week recalling several games against us and how they lost because of our defense. Made me realize since the collapse against the Citadel in 92 the defense has never been the same. So anything good is great to a Hogs fan right now. That guy is speaking tonight at the Razorback Touchdown Club in Little Rock tonight. Wish I had tickets, that's food, awesome speaker and good beer.

    Arkansas has a bye week now. ing sucks that week two is a bye week. But after watching Georgia after that game taking into consideration their youth and the team they faced anyone could give the Hogs D a chance against Georgia in week 3. That's youth on youth right there with injuries on both sides I believe. However they face South Carolina between the hedges and if that offense puts up big numbers and cruises the story will change. If not it will remain the same.

    Michael Dyer is #1(overall and position) according to ESPN, and #3(position) according to both Rivals and Scout. Not sure where you heard the #8 stuff. Makes sense that Arkansas wouldn't go after him though if they're already loaded up at the position. Auburn just picked up another (4 star) commitment at OLB, Ladarius Owens, a 6-2 225lb (with a 4.49 40 time) out of the Birmingham area. AU needs linebacker help badly, with depth there being the lowest it's been in years. Bama was after him hard as well, so this is a nice in state victory for Chizik.
    I spoke to some friends that told me that yesterday too, about Dyer and his rank. My number came from many moons ago from memory, wasn't updated. But yeah we are stocked at tailback but I'm told Arkansas is in fact recruiting him now. I know they weren't before though, and I don't know how much help he would even be until he was a junior maybe, or impressed big time in the spring and fall and earned that playing time.

    Honestly I don't give a about recruiting right now. Season is finally here, I will let the coaches and analysts worry about it until late December. But that's just me. But honestly that's when the classes really take shape, and into January obviously. But for a random rumor I hear Petrino is only recruiting 6 foot players and above. And a random fact is Arkansas is and will be spending more on recruiting than ever before.

    As for size when evaluating running backs, it just depends on the offense. In a spread, you like those speedy guys who can get on the outside and make things happen. AU RB Tate, who ran for over 100 yards last Saturday, is the between the tackles guy and checks in at 5-11 220. The speed guy for Auburn, McCalebb, is 5-10 165, and rushed for 148 on Saturday. La Tech actually had a fairly high rated run defense last year nationally, and they got shredded by the little guy. Will need to wait and see what he can do against the SEC before I get too excited though.
    This year is so interesting for me personally. Do or die type deals all around with new coaches and such. Nutt will come back down to earth I believe, and LSU is not doing very well with Les Miles. I mean they are doing fine on paper but I have an LSU friend who is disgruntled and more fans are heading that way he says. I truly believe Auburn and Arkansas will decide who competes with Bama into the next decade as Petrino covers Les Miles tracks.

    Georgia is on the brink. His team being unproven and young at this stage is terrible from the outside looking in. Right now they should be dominating and taking advantage of Nutt over-achieving, Spurrier under-achieving, Hogs-Auburn-Tenn rebuilding stages. In my mind either they produce a nice crop of talent and put Ws on the board and win a BCS game in the next 2 years or coach could be on the hot seat there too. Especially if they lose a lot of games. MSU is , Vandy is recruiting better, Florida continues to get better after hitting the the top again, LSU is flickering badly. Kentucky is just there.

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    Our defense looked pretty good overall. B+ or A- range. The talent they played in that game was far worse than the red jerseys they have been hitting in practice though. But in front of a crowd on a stage with the most expectations Arkansas has had in my lifetime they really just did their job.
    Interesting to hear that expectations are that high in Fayettville. It makes sense, considering what Petrino has done in the past. What kind of defense is run by the Hogs? 3-4,4-3 etc.?


    Honestly I don't give a about recruiting right now. Season is finally here, I will let the coaches and analysts worry about it until late December. But that's just me. But honestly that's when the classes really take shape, and into January obviously. But for a random rumor I hear Petrino is only recruiting 6 foot players and above. And a random fact is Arkansas is and will be spending more on recruiting than ever before.
    I'm one of those wackos who follows recruiting year round. This being Chiziks first full recruiting year, it's interesting for me to see how he does, especially against Bama in-state. He is already showing that he's not afraid to go up against the big-boys nationally, something that's going to be important if AU is going to challenge for a national championship. I do realize that recruiting services, and the hype surrounding recruiting in general, can be and often is wayyy off base. Take Utah last year for example. Their classes weren't anywhere near top ranked. Getting top-notch kids is important, but coaching them up is even more crucial. Larry Coker at Miami is a perfect case of a guy who can recruit like crazy but could never turn those guys into a cohesive, championship winning team.

    While normally true that classes don't start taking real shape until late-season, this year is a bit different and may indicate the beginning of a new trend. Schools like
    Bama,LSU,Texas,Florida,OU, and UGA are already close to 20 commits. This means that a majority of their classes are already in stone. Meanwhile, teams like USC and Ohio St. are around 12, much like where Auburn is right now. I even read that Auburn has offered a high-school junior. Perhaps kids are just committing earlier in the year, much sooner than the normal time after the end of their high school football season.

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    Hey chili-dog, what's the fall-out been in the aftermath of the Dawgs loss to Okie St.? What are your expectations for the Game s coming into town?

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    Hey chili-dog, what's the fall-out been in the aftermath of the Dawgs loss to Okie St.? What are your expectations for the Game s coming into town?
    I don't think there has been a fallout that I can tell. But then again I'm not in UGA territory. I'm in Dallas and I'm the only UGA football fan I know. None of my friends or family are fans. If I lived in Athens or Atlanta maybe I'd get a sense of what other UGA fans/students are saying about it.

    But that said, there is no reason for any negative thoughts or a fallout of any kind, IMO. Georgia lost to a better team as a road underdog. Had it been a loss to a weak team, then there would be reason to panic. I don't have any reason to believe there will be a let down going into the South Carolina game. It's the home opener, the team and fans will be pumped and ready to go. I do expect Georgia to win that game. If they don't, that's when I will start to get worried.

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    I don't think there has been a fallout that I can tell. But then again I'm not in UGA territory. I'm in Dallas and I'm the only UGA football fan I know. None of my friends or family are fans. If I lived in Athens or Atlanta maybe I'd get a sense of what other UGA fans/students are saying about it.

    But that said, there is no reason for any negative thoughts or a fallout of any kind, IMO. Georgia lost to a better team as a road underdog. Had it been a loss to a weak team, then there would be reason to panic. I don't have any reason to believe there will be a let down going into the South Carolina game. It's the home opener, the team and fans will be pumped and ready to go. I do expect Georgia to win that game. If they don't, that's when I will start to get worried.

    Chilidog, I live down in Austin but still follow all of the hometown papers and there is actually quite a bit of fallout, mostly at the feet of Mike Bobo for going away from the run when it obviously worked on the first drive, Joe Cox for holding onto the ball all day and not being physically ready (it also came out that Joe's shoulder is not up to par, thus the inability to throw the ball more that 10 yard with any accuracy) and at special teams. Coach Fabris literally said that he likes the challenge of directional kickoffs vs. kicking it out of the endzone. The Cowboys last three scoring drives had a combined total of 51 offensive yards. 17 points, 51 yards?! That doesn't fly in Athens when it is thought that at least one of those TD could have been avoided by kicking it deep.

    I think unless you see Mark Richt make some coaching changes, like Bobo and especially Fabris who is the special teams and defensive ends coach (another area of disappointment the last two years) the heat is going to go up. Personally I don't know how you can't be better prepared for a team you've had so much time to prepared for.


    He's a taste of what's going on.





    Kickoffs remain a ‘challenge’ for Dogs

    10:07 am September 9, 2009, by Bill King




    I was driving home from Athens Saturday night, listening to the “Fifth Quarter Show” on WNGC, and the subject of the Dogs’ terrible kickoff coverage came up.

    The frequently asked question since last year has been why Georgia can’t get a kicker to put the ball deep into the end zone for a touchback like so many other teams do. At the end of last season, after too many of Blair Walsh’s directional kicks had sailed out of bounds, Mark Richt indicated he wanted a kicker who could “boom” it and famously said he’d go as far as Poland to find one.

    Instead, he looked to California and signed junior college player Brandon Bogotay to a scholarship, ostensibly because of his strong leg. But in preseason compe ion, it was decided that Walsh should keep the kickoff job as well as handling PATs and field goals. And the Dogs stuck to special teams coach Jon Fabris’ policy of preferring high, shorter kicks directed into the corner.

    If you’re wondering what happened, former Georgia players A.J. Bryant and Kelin Johnson, now regulars on the “Fifth Quarter Show,” put it all into perspective. Both of them played on special teams for Fabris, and they said that it wouldn’t matter whether the Dogs had a kicker who could put it in the end zone or not; Fabris likes “the challenge” of directional kicks. That’s just Coach Fab, they said, get used to it.

    Let that sink in for a moment.

    Fabris would rather his coverage team face “the challenge” of containing a return than get a touchback and have the other team at their own 20.

    Of course, the argument that Richt continues to make in favor of directional kicks is that they have more hang time and allow the coverage team to get downfield and prevent a long return. Theoretically, that is. As the Dogs have shown time and time again, including in Saturday’s Oklahoma State game, that frequently isn’t the case.

    Meeting with reporters Tuesday, Richt said of the OSU game, “The fans want the long kick, but the longest kick had the longest return. The kicks that were a little shorter had the better hang times and ball placement. We covered those better.”

    It’s worth pointing out, of course, that it’s not just “the fans” who would like to see Georgia kick it into the end zone. Some folks who know a thing or two about kickoffs, including former Bulldog greats Kevin Butler and Rex Robinson, have come out against the directional kicking approach. Why Richt sticks with Fabris’ philosophy, even when it obviously has greater risk than kicking it deep, is a real mystery.

    But let’s put aside for now the argument over deep kicks vs. directional kicks, since apparently Fabris is going to go with the latter, no matter what, and Richt shows no sign of doing anything about it.

    The bigger problem for several seasons now is that Georgia’s kick coverage is just plain lousy. The first players to reach the kick returner are usually pretty easily eluded — frankly, they fall down a lot — and once a returner gets past the first wave, there’s frequently a wide-open seam running through Georgia’s coverage that produces results like Saturday’s 74-yard return by the Cowboys’ Perrish Cox.

    Richt himself conceded that on the long return by Oklahoma State, “I wouldn’t say that because we kicked it deeper that was the cause. We had a young man who should have contained and forced [Cox] inside to where our coverage teams were. We didn’t do a good job of that. Our second wave didn’t get in position to corral him. There was some great hustle at the end to keep him from going the distance. The guys that were designed to be safeties did their job, so it didn’t become a touchdown at that point. Ultimately that ensuing drive was a touchdown on a short field. We just can’t have it.”

    Indeed.

    Richt talked during the preseason about bolstering the coverage by using some of the Dogs’ much-lauded freshman talent, though Fabris apparently wasn’t so enthusiastic about that idea. But that’s not really the problem. The Dogs could load up the coverage team with first-teamers and it wouldn’t matter if they’re not properly coached and if Georgia doesn’t devote the needed time to improving its special teams play.

    Bad coaching, or not enough coaching, seems to be the problem.

    Here’s another example: On the other side of the kickoff game, the Dogs had a true freshman, Branden Smith, receive a kick deep in the end zone Saturday and, against all common sense, he tried to return it and got stopped inside his own 10-yard line. OK, chalk that up to a stupid freshman mistake. Surely, he’d get coached up on the sidelines, right?

    Nope, next time he tried the same thing again.

    All of which makes it seem that Richt and company don’t take special teams play seriously enough.

    Until they do, it’s likely that Georgia is going to continue to lose the field-position battle. And games.
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    Cox shouldn’t answer critics

    3:55 pm September 9, 2009, by Bill King


    Despite being a fifth-year senior, Joe Cox is new to this big-time starting quarterback business, and it showed in his response this week to criticism by fans and the sports media of his play against Oklahoma State.

    A veteran probably would just have made the self-effacing “I’ve got to get better” comments, which Cox did, and then left it at that.

    But Cox got combative. As quoted in the Athens Banner-Herald, he said: “Half the people who have stuff to say after games have never played a down of football before in their entire life. I wouldn’t criticize somebody for something I’ve never played before or never done before, but some people feel it’s their place to say how somebody is doing when they’ve never done it before. That’s just something I’ve never understood. Stuff like that doesn’t bother me. You’ve got to look at the source, and if it’s somebody who’s never played football, I could care less what you say.”

    OK, obviously, stuff like that does bother him. And that’s understandable. A lot of athletes, chefs, singers and such have the same idea: that you shouldn’t criticize unless you can do it yourself. Which misses the point that a performance, whether it’s athletic or artistic, is aimed at an audience, the consumer, if you will. And the consumer has a perfect right to say, “I didn’t think that performance was very good.” The criticism may not be that well informed if the critic doesn’t have an intimate understanding of what the performer is doing, but it’s still fair.

    More than that, though, lashing out at your fan base, especially when you’re coming off a sucky performance (even if you were sick), is never a good idea.

    Just as Cox will learn not to hold on to the ball so long and how to read defenses quicker, I imagine that as the season progresses he’ll also learn how to handle the PR aspects of being the starting QB at an SEC school. Assuming he holds on to that job.

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    I understand from a UGA perspective that their kickoff team was poor, but on the flip side OSU's special teams in general and especially returns is one of the best in the nation. In fact from OUR side, Dez is getting crap for not fielding punts and letting them bounce.

    Look at it objectively... the kick returner is out there to make a play. Every single one of our kickoffs was in or thru the end zone. Kid fields it in the end zone late in the 3rd or in the 4th, you are down at least 10, he wants to make a play. He is in there because he has earned the right as the 'best' the team can put out there. Of course he thinks he can make a difference and tries to make a play. Unfortunately he didn't. Just the nature of the game. Just by looking at your kicks, it didn't look like you kicker had the ability to kick into the end zone.

    Additionally, your stat of 51 yards is wholey misleading; a fumble on the 32 and a 15 yard penalty (17 yards to a TD), 74 yard return to the 24 (24 yards to TD), fumble on the 11 and UGA penalized 5 (just a FG). Was turnovers that gave us good field position more than kickoff issues.

    Again, I get that you may have issues of your own their but they look a little magnified in what many believe is the best in the B12 and one of the elite special teams units in the nation at OSU. CFN ranked them 11 mainly because we lost the best punter in the nation, but as you saw the freshman replacing him is pretty dern good.

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    I understand from a UGA perspective that their kickoff team was poor, but on the flip side OSU's special teams in general and especially returns is one of the best in the nation. In fact from OUR side, Dez is getting crap for not fielding punts and letting them bounce.

    Look at it objectively... the kick returner is out there to make a play. Every single one of our kickoffs was in or thru the end zone. Kid fields it in the end zone late in the 3rd or in the 4th, you are down at least 10, he wants to make a play. He is in there because he has earned the right as the 'best' the team can put out there. Of course he thinks he can make a difference and tries to make a play. Unfortunately he didn't. Just the nature of the game. Just by looking at your kicks, it didn't look like you kicker had the ability to kick into the end zone.

    Additionally, your stat of 51 yards is wholey misleading; a fumble on the 32 and a 15 yard penalty (17 yards to a TD), 74 yard return to the 24 (24 yards to TD), fumble on the 11 and UGA penalized 5 (just a FG). Was turnovers that gave us good field position more than kickoff issues.

    Again, I get that you may have issues of your own their but they look a little magnified in what many believe is the best in the B12 and one of the elite special teams units in the nation at OSU. CFN ranked them 11 mainly because we lost the best punter in the nation, but as you saw the freshman replacing him is pretty dern good.
    Did you read the article? Did you read what they said about directional kickers and how Blair Walsh routinely kicks the ball out of the endzone? We have 3 kickers on scolarship and none can kick it out of the endzone? Kevin Butler has brought up the same points and I think he knows something about the Georgia kicking game.

    My post was not a shot at OK St. They deserved to win, these issues didn't just come up last week with UGA. The kickoff problem is a couple of years old and the offensive palycalling is going back to last season as well (bobo didn't even know his receiver rotation during the game?!?!) Kentucky last year, Vandy, all kinds of lesser teams have had a lot of success against UGA in the special teams department in recent years. Not only kicking but trying to return not one, but two kickoffs 7 yards deep and not downing that one punt on the 1. Those were all avoidable on special teams.

    And of course the turnovers gave Ok St the field position, that was my point. The offense was horrible. If that's the plan you came up with after a whole offseason to prepare, it was pretty piss poor. UGA simply went away from the run. We ran it 8 times on the first drive, and 22 time over the course of the rest of the game (even f-ing Matt Millen was saying this during the game). We weren't down enough to abandon the run. Ok St didn't even break the game open until the 4th.

    Once again this isn't about OkSt, this is about UGA. No offense, but the Ok St defense was good, but not nearly the best we're going to face this year, in fact, SC this weekend probably has a better one. Its going to be tough sledding for UGA this year and coaching is a big part of it.
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    What I'm sayin is getting on the coaches for some stuff that they players say he says and because of armchair quarterback analysis is completely self destructive. Citing "Some folks who know a thing or two about kickoffs" as a reference? All in all the article is some dude who is writing from a slant to show he is cool and what he thinks should be is right. I never said it was about OSU, I'm saying when a fanbase starts believing everything written in an article as fact then you got problems.

    Personnal I think you don't kick it in the endzone because your guy can't.

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    What I'm sayin is getting on the coaches for some stuff that they players say he says and because of armchair quarterback analysis is completely self destructive. Citing "Some folks who know a thing or two about kickoffs" as a reference? All in all the article is some dude who is writing from a slant to show he is cool and what he thinks should be is right. I never said it was about OSU, I'm saying when a fanbase starts believing everything written in an article as fact then you got problems.

    Personnal I think you don't kick it in the endzone because your guy can't.

    That some person, Kevin Butler, is only the best kicker in UGA history(his son is now the punter as well) and played 12 seasons in the NFL and is the leading all time scorer for Chicago Bears. He is the only kicker in the College Football hall of fame. He was also on UGA championship team, so I think he knows what he's talking about. You love OK St, we get that, but you have no idea about UGA football program and SEC football.

    New news, speaking of people who don't know what their talking about, Coach Richt talked about how Cox was ready to play Saturday when multiple individuals invovled with the program had said Cox has had a shoulder issue and a dead arm for 3 weeks, well.......

    Source: Gray to fill in for injured CoxComment Email Print Share By Joe Schad
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    Senior quarterback Joe Cox has an arm issue, the source said. Cox struggled in the first week, but that was in part due to his battle with the flu.

    Gray, 6-feet-2, 192 pounds, is a versatile athlete who has even been used as a punt returner. Georgia also has two freshman quarterbacks on its roster.

    Gray was an All-State football and basketball player at Rock Bridge High School in Columbia, Mo., and had a chance to play Division I basketball at schools like Creighton and Drake.

    Joe Schad is a college football reporter for ESPN.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4462154

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    That some person, Kevin Butler, is only the best kicker in UGA history(his son is now the punter as well) and played 12 seasons in the NFL and is the leading all time scorer for Chicago Bears. He is the only kicker in the College Football hall of fame. He was also on UGA championship team, so I think he knows what he's talking about. You love OK St, we get that, but you have no idea about UGA football program and SEC football.

    New news, speaking of people who don't know what their talking about, Coach Richt talked about how Cox was ready to play Saturday when multiple individuals invovled with the program had said Cox has had a shoulder issue and a dead arm for 3 weeks, well.......



    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4462154

    So Thurman Thomas and Barry Sanders are the best people to comment on why the OSU coaches under today's offensive scheme with today's compliment of players pick which running plays when they haven't played college ball for 20 years and both played in I-Back offenses, correct?

    By the way, if Cox returned a kick 74 yards to the 24, where was the kick fielded?

    And yes, I do know who Butler is, longtime kicker with the Bears, and I do remember watching him doink that 70-some yarder in a bowl game years ago.

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    So Thurman Thomas and Barry Sanders are the best people to comment on why the OSU coaches under today's offensive scheme with today's compliment of players pick which running plays when they haven't played college ball for 20 years and both played in I-Back offenses, correct?

    By the way, if Cox returned a kick 74 yards to the 24, where was the kick fielded?

    And yes, I do know who Butler is, longtime kicker with the Bears, and I do remember watching him doink that 70-some yarder in a bowl game years ago.
    OMG, just let it go. He does a weekly radio show on UGA football, his kid plays on the team and he's been involved with the program for 30 years so he obviously would have more insight than just "some guy" and can comment on what he has seen with his own two eyes at multiple practices throughout the years and this offseason. I'm sure he takes special interest on the current state of special teams.

    How many Georgia games have you watched or been to? How long did you live in Georgia? How would you have any idea what sources that cover UGA football are or are not realible? You making an observations on what people are saying in GA about the program and telling UGA fans what they should believe is laughable. Stick to Okalahoma A&M.


    Separate note, anyone think that this weekend's USC UGA game with have a combined score of over 20 points?


    Arkansas also has a week to prepare for UGA and has been preparing for them during the offseason (take note Bobo) I think unless Grey turns out to be a world beater would could be looking at 1-2 or 0-3 going into the Az St game.

    A good article about Ark looking at the UGA game.

    FAYETTEVILLE — Last year Bobby Petrino wouldn’t have dared say he prepared for Arkansas’ seasonopener practicing beyond it.

    As the Razorbacks’ first-year coach last year, Petrino had two supposed nonconference cupcakes before the first SEC game.

    Those cupcakes nearly cooked the Hogs. Arkansas was lucky to escape Western Illinois, 28-24 in Fayetteville and Louisiana-Monroe, 28-27 in Little Rock.

    Petrino has started his second season at the Hog helm with a better team, nearly 100 percent more familiar with him and he with them than in 2008. So, yes, he said, even with this bye-week upcoming, the Razorbacks had done some advance preseason prepping for their Sept. 19 SEC opener with Georgia in Fayetteville while simultaneously prepping for last Saturday night’s 48-10 season-opening rout of the lower division Missouri State University Bears.

    “I was happy with the maturityour team showed,” Petrino said in Saturday’s postgame at War Memorial Stadium in Little Rock. “Because we practiced a lot in camp for Georgia and knew we had to come down here and take care of business.”

    It ought to be an interesting situational contrast when the Georgia Bulldogs come to Reynolds Razorback Stadium for the Sept. 19 ESPN televised 6:45 p.m. SEC clash.

    Georgia will have played two tough games. Last Saturday, the Bulldogs lost 24-10 to ninthranked Oklahoma State in Stillwater, Okla.

    This Saturday for its SEC opener, Georgia hosts South Carolina, a 7-3 nonconference winner last Thursday at North Carolina State.

    It’s conceivable the Bulldogs, ranked 19th by the AP to start the season, could be 0-2 upon Fayetteville arrival.

    Even should that 0-2 prove true, they will arrive thoroughly tested and in game rhythm.

    The Hogs won’t. Arkansas would be better served if its bye-week was later to repair and refresh well into the 12-game grind.

    But the Hogs do have some advantages with an extra week to work off their first-game plusses and minuses going into perhaps this season’s most pivotal game.

    It’s not only the Hogs’ SEC opener, but given a rugged road SEC slate of at Alabama, at Florida, at Ole Miss and at LSU, seems a near must-win for Arkansas to achieve a winning SEC campaign.

    “Whatever cards you’re dealt,” Arkansas offensive coordinator/ receivers coach Paul Petrino said post-Missouri State, “that’s what you deal with. It gives us twoweeks to get ready for Georgia, so that’s what we’re going to do.”

    They will start the SEC season feeling SEC worthy.

    A feeling they acknowledge now was hard to feel last year knowing they could have lost to Western Illinois and Western Illinois.

    “That,” Arkansas senior defensive tackle team captain Malcolm Sheppard said after the 48-10 beating of the Bears, “is what an SEC team is supposed to do to a team like that. We weren’t an SEC team last year. That shows definite improvement on our part.”

    Arkansas went 5-7 overall and 2-6 in the SEC last year and never really felt good about itself postgame until upsetting LSU, 31-30 in the season finale.

    Now the defense feels better holding an opponent to a record low 10 points for the Petrino era. The offense set an Arkansas single game passing record 447 yards. And the special teamskick-started especially well with a fatal blow to the Bears’ bread basket. Arkansas sop re Dennis Johnson returned the opening kickoff for a 91-yard touchdown.

    Though outclassed stepping up in class against Arkansas, the Bears have a big-time tight end, NFL-scouted Clay Harbor, a good quarterback, Cody Kirby of Rogers, and a geared to stop the run defense that could have given Missouri State a hang around with a fourth-quarter underdog’s chance if the Hogs slopped around early.

    Johnson returned the underdogs’ chance to no chance.

    “That kickoff return was demoralizing,” Terry Allen, the Missouri State coach and former Kansas coach, said. “It really deflates you. College football is all about momentum, and we started without momentum.”

    Arkansas started 2009 with somuch momentum that Bobby Petrino believed the Hogs could sustain through Missouri State while working on Georgia.

    Now he must keep up the good work while Georgia plays.

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    You are the one that obviously can't let it go. Maybe you should get Hershel to tell everyone why the coaches abandon the running game? After all, he is the expert.

    By all means, keep up your doom and gloom; I was trying to talk you down down off it. You are right, I know nothing about UGA football and you are destined to win zero games because your coaches make terrible decisions. Please fire them now and install Kevin Butler as your coach. It is solely their fault OSU beat UGA, it had nothing to do with talent on the field or the chance of plays. The fumbles are their fault too, why aren't they teaching those kids not to cough it up? Kevin Butler wouldn't do that.

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    Chilidog, I live down in Austin but still follow all of the hometown papers and there is actually quite a bit of fallout, mostly at the feet of Mike Bobo for going away from the run when it obviously worked on the first drive, Joe Cox for holding onto the ball all day and not being physically ready (it also came out that Joe's shoulder is not up to par, thus the inability to throw the ball more that 10 yard with any accuracy) and at special teams. Coach Fabris literally said that he likes the challenge of directional kickoffs vs. kicking it out of the endzone. The Cowboys last three scoring drives had a combined total of 51 offensive yards. 17 points, 51 yards?! That doesn't fly in Athens when it is thought that at least one of those TD could have been avoided by kicking it deep.

    I think unless you see Mark Richt make some coaching changes, like Bobo and especially Fabris who is the special teams and defensive ends coach (another area of disappointment the last two years) the heat is going to go up. Personally I don't know how you can't be better prepared for a team you've had so much time to prepared for.


    He's a taste of what's going on.
    Another UGA fan!!! I'm not the only one!

    thanks for posting that stuff romad, I appreciate it. Yeah, I am a big supporter of kicking it deep. I HATE directional kicking and think too many people think it benefits the special teams when it really doesn't. I'll take the opponent automatically starting at the 20 over a spot that could be anywhere...every single time.

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    Interesting to hear that expectations are that high in Fayettville. It makes sense, considering what Petrino has done in the past. What kind of defense is run by the Hogs? 3-4,4-3 etc.?
    Will Robinson runs four down with three back traditionally. For whatever reason he is under slight scrutiny from fans because of last year losing a combined 4 games by a couple touchdowns or something and all. I think it will go away because our offense is doing so well it appears and they are expecting way too much from a young defense this season. Or some how to be as good as the offense.

    What those people should know is that defense faces both DJ's, Mallett, and that entire first team offense every week and have been since Spring. even Tyler Wilson our backup QB who could start for several SEC schools it's been said also. It's only week one of course but he is #35 rated QB after one week. Ryan is 5th.

    My point is that offense is really young but really explosive. Our D has suffered some injuries but they have been facing a good offense for a while. Hopefully that experience can transition over onto game day.


    I'm one of those wackos who follows recruiting year round. This being Chiziks first full recruiting year, it's interesting for me to see how he does, especially against Bama in-state. He is already showing that he's not afraid to go up against the big-boys nationally, something that's going to be important if AU is going to challenge for a national championship. I do realize that recruiting services, and the hype surrounding recruiting in general, can be and often is wayyy off base. Take Utah last year for example. Their classes weren't anywhere near top ranked. Getting top-notch kids is important, but coaching them up is even more crucial. Larry Coker at Miami is a perfect case of a guy who can recruit like crazy but could never turn those guys into a cohesive, championship winning team.

    While normally true that classes don't start taking real shape until late-season, this year is a bit different and may indicate the beginning of a new trend. Schools like
    Bama,LSU,Texas,Florida,OU, and UGA are already close to 20 commits. This means that a majority of their classes are already in stone. Meanwhile, teams like USC and Ohio St. are around 12, much like where Auburn is right now. I even read that Auburn has offered a high-school junior. Perhaps kids are just committing earlier in the year, much sooner than the normal time after the end of their high school football season.
    Petrino got a top 15 class last year I think. Not bad in year one. But he doesn't go after big names. He goes after the best guys that he thinks fits his style, or could. I think we have signed around 10. But like I said you won't see our class take form for another several months I think.

    I'm not sold on your coach though. What did he do at ISU (was it?)?

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    OMG, just let it go. He does a weekly radio show on UGA football, his kid plays on the team and he's been involved with the program for 30 years so he obviously would have more insight than just "some guy" and can comment on what he has seen with his own two eyes at multiple practices throughout the years and this offseason. I'm sure he takes special interest on the current state of special teams.

    How many Georgia games have you watched or been to? How long did you live in Georgia? How would you have any idea what sources that cover UGA football are or are not realible? You making an observations on what people are saying in GA about the program and telling UGA fans what they should believe is laughable. Stick to Okalahoma A&M.


    Separate note, anyone think that this weekend's USC UGA game with have a combined score of over 20 points?


    Arkansas also has a week to prepare for UGA and has been preparing for them during the offseason (take note Bobo) I think unless Grey turns out to be a world beater would could be looking at 1-2 or 0-3 going into the Az St game.

    A good article about Ark looking at the UGA game.
    That was a pretty solid article. What it fails to explain as a whole is last year Bobby Petrino took over Houston's players. Typically they were undersized and taught one major skill at their position. Well BP changes the offense, staff, and actually teaches players several skills then all the little details around the team like jersey, field, and so forth. Arkansas was as confused as pee-wee kids accidentally running the wrong way for a safety. Not quite but still, ask Bama or Texas. After we squeaked out wins and got killed, we lost a list of close games. We got better.

    Every major school prepares early. Arkansas preparing for Georgia for several months is nothing new.

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    You are the one that obviously can't let it go. Maybe you should get Hershel to tell everyone why the coaches abandon the running game? After all, he is the expert.

    By all means, keep up your doom and gloom; I was trying to talk you down down off it. You are right, I know nothing about UGA football and you are destined to win zero games because your coaches make terrible decisions. Please fire them now and install Kevin Butler as your coach. It is solely their fault OSU beat UGA, it had nothing to do with talent on the field or the chance of plays. The fumbles are their fault too, why aren't they teaching those kids not to cough it up? Kevin Butler wouldn't do that.
    Unfortunately Capt Mike, you just don't understand the microscope that most SEC programs are put under. You do make some good points, but Romad is simply pointing out the things that many around that storied program think may be wrong at present. This same scenario takes place after every loss by Bama, Auburn, Florida, LSU, Tennessee.

    One of the points in the article Romad posted was that UGA got away from the run. That was also my biggest criticism during that game. I thought if the Dawgs had continued to pound away at the thin Okie St. D-line(which played pretty darn well BTW) then things certainly could have been different.

    I definitely think you'll see more than 20 points scored in the USC/UGA game. Not from Carolina though. For some reason the ole' ball coach just can't get any kind of consistent offense going. That team has to run it and grind clock to have any chance.

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    I'm not sold on your coach though. What did he do at ISU (was it?)?
    I'm not either, and that's why I'm on every little thing he does. His teams at Iowa St sucked balls. But so many ingredients go into a well coached team besides the head guy it's not really fair to just go off of what they did at their prior gigs. Norv Turner is a good example of that, albeit in the pros. Chizik coached undefeated defenses at both Auburn and Texas, so it's not like he hasn't been in the brightest lights under the biggest pressures. The staff he's brought in seems thus far to be very good together. Malzahn you know, but guys like Trooper Taylor(WR coach, and the main recruiter) and Ted Roof, who is the defensive coordinator and a bit of a comeback story himself. He coached Duke for 5 years(yikes, rough job). A head coach often times is more of an administrator(at least in college), and this seems to be the role Chizik has mostly played, being a guy who lets his coaches coach. That's fine with me, until he starts losing a whole bunch.LOL.

    My main questions are these, in no particular order:

    Can he recruit? - So far so good
    Can he manage clock? - Unknown
    Can he manage Auburn Boosters? - Unknown
    Late game decision making(in close games) - Unknown
    Can he keep his program clean? - Unknown
    Can he keep Malzahn balanced? - Unknown
    Can he keep the defense stout? - Unknown
    CAN HE BEAT BAMA? - Unknown

    He is certainly a fiery guy, which I like. Very animated on the sidelines and seemingly very involved as the game goes on. It's during the week that he seems a bit detached at times, and I'm not sure yet what that means. We'll see. But one thing is for sure, and that is you have to win, and win NOW.

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    Alright Symple, Chili and Brut,

    My games this week that I'm interested in:

    UGA v USC

    I think the Dawgs will win, ok, I hope they will win . Cox will indeed start but I think Grey will play a few series. I also think Caleb King comes back this week to help in the running game. Look for this one to come down to a defensive play, which has been the case in the last few years. Hopefully improvement on the o-line and special teams. 14-7 UGA

    UCLA v Tenn.

    Very interesting game. We get a look at what the Kiffins will do against real compe ion. Will Crompton actually look as good as last week? Will the Vols be looking ahead to the UF game and lose concentration? I don't think they will. I think Tenn will actually put up good numbers again and win comfortably and get ready for Florida. 30-10 Tenn

    Miss St v Auburn

    Chizik is back in the SEC and ready to go. I admit I did not get to see either of these teams last week but both look like they started slow and then closed out their respective teams pretty well. Both teams are breaking in new coaching staffs and Miss St gets Dixon back this week. With a win Auburn could be looking at 4-0 and a great start, with a loss Miss St could be looking at 1-3. I think Auburn's defense shuts down Miss St in a low scoring game 17-7 Auburn.

    Vandy v LSU

    Vandy has improved its doormat standing over the last under Bobby Johnson and is no longer just a checkmark win. This will be a big test for them at Death Valley. Les Miles looks like he could have just rode the coattails of Saban's talent to a national le, because that D-fense has dropped leaps and bounds in the last two years. Washington put up way too many yards against them last week. I would love to call an upset here but I think the fact the game is in Death Valley tips the scales and LSU pulls away late. 34-20 LSU.

    Any thoughts? I wish I had more time to do more research but I'm really just f-ing off at work


    Go DAWGS!!!!!

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    I don't think anyone should judge him on Iowa St. They aren't even the biggest program in Iowa. He had no chance there simply because of talent. I really have no idea why he ever took that job, except for the experience.


    My main questions are these, in no particular order:

    Can he recruit? - So far so good (Maybe, its hard with Saban and Richt competing for same players, but there's plenty to go around)

    Can he manage clock? - Unknown (We will probably find out this weekend)

    Can he manage Auburn Boosters? - Unknown (No, probably not. They are pretty cut-throat there)

    Late game decision making(in close games) - Unknown

    Can he keep his program clean? - Unknown (hmmmm, who knows? If he doesn't win right off it could lead to him sweeting the pot for recruits.)

    Can he keep Malzahn balanced? - Unknown (Probably. He's a strong personality and I think he'll keep his coaches in line and correct them when they stray.)

    Can he keep the defense stout? - Unknown (Yes. I don't think anyone in the SEC or Big 12 thinks otherwise)


    CAN HE BEAT BAMA? - Unknown (That's the biggest question, isn't it?)

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    Unfortunately Capt Mike, you just don't understand the microscope that most SEC programs are put under.
    lol I love the fact that SEC people think they are the only world that exists. I grew up in Oklahoma during Switzer's heyday, downfall and all the subsequent coaches that were decent but not up to standard, and you are going to tell ME I don't understand programs being under a microscope. Or at OSU basketball when little Sutton has a winning record but gets fired for not being up to standard and his daddy is drunk running over pedestrians. Nice.

    Unfortunately, you SEC peeps are so cavalier that you don't realize life exists outside of dixie.

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    Alright Symple, Chili and Brut,

    My games this week that I'm interested in:

    UGA v USC

    I think the Dawgs will win, ok, I hope they will win . Cox will indeed start but I think Grey will play a few series. I also think Caleb King comes back this week to help in the running game. Look for this one to come down to a defensive play, which has been the case in the last few years. Hopefully improvement on the o-line and special teams. 14-7 UGA


    Go DAWGS!!!!!
    Wasn't 14-7 the score last year? Damn that game was nerve-wracking as all .

    SIC EM!!

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    Wasn't 14-7 the score last year? Damn that game was nerve-wracking as all .

    SIC EM!!
    Yeah, we needed some help on 4th down late to seal that one.

    The best in recent memory was when David Pollock sacked, intercepted and fell in the enzone for a TD for the win. Awesome game.

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    lol I love the fact that SEC people think they are the only world that exists. you are going to tell ME I don't understand programs being under a microscope
    Well, the le of the thread is SEC football 2009 and the only reason you're in here is because your team is starting to build some sort of football program and beat an SEC team. Talk about caviler, you're the one that comes off as a y know-it-all.

    You know you don't have to come into this thread since it has zero to do with your team.
    Last edited by romad_20; 09-11-2009 at 04:04 PM. Reason: Not going to take pot shots at Ok St

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    I don't think anyone should judge him on Iowa St. They aren't even the biggest program in Iowa. He had no chance there simply because of talent. I really have no idea why he ever took that job, except for the experience.
    A popular news/radio sports guy is from Iowa and went to ISU and thinks he is a terrible coach. I don't think he knows why he took that job truly.

    As far as your comments about Vandy not being a doormat anymore, I completely agree. When they beat Arkansas a few seasons ago in Fay., they caught Houston looking ahead and beat the one trick pony. That's when things turned around. Cutler had a lot to do with this. He got them several decent recruits.

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