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    When Obama decides how to check for ID when the illegals try to get his free healthcare plan let me know.
    hospitals already check IDs when you need healthcare.

    If Obama all of a sudden decided not to cover the illegals then why can they still be able to access emergency rooms and not paying?
    Do you understand the difference between having a healthcare program and getting healthcare at the emergency room in emergencies??

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    hospitals already check IDs when you need healthcare.
    Great. When Obamacare comes up with a way to check for ids before they pass out there cards let me know.

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    Great. When Obamacare comes up with a way to check for ids before they pass out there cards let me know.
    so you are saying they will not need to see any kind of ID when we apply for the goverment healthcare plan?

    do you have a link to this? I highly doubt they will be passing the healthcare cards around like baseball cards.

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    Do you understand the difference between having a healthcare program and getting healthcare at the emergency room in emergencies??
    Obama said his healthcare will not cost Americans 1 dime. How is he going to do this without treating illegals in emergency rooms? So you are telling me the emergency room care has nothing to do with Obamacare.

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    Obama said his healthcare will not cost Americans 1 dime. How is he going to do this without treating illegals in emergency rooms? So you are telling me the emergency room care has nothing to do with Obamacare.
    they are already treating illegals at emergency rooms. this will not change. ever.

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    so you are saying they will not need to see any kind of ID when we apply for the goverment healthcare plan?

    do you have a link to this? I highly doubt they will be passing the healthcare cards around like baseball cards.
    So is this your first day in America? Illegals can get ids for anything america has to offer with little effort. If you want to deny that, that is your deal. Illegals can get covered if Obamacare is passed.

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    they are already treating illegals at emergency rooms. this will not change. ever.
    Then Obama should not say illegals are not covered.

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    Then Obama should not say illegals are not covered.
    by the goverment healthcare plan, they are not. thats what he said.

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    So is this your first day in America? Illegals can get ids for anything america has to offer with little effort. If you want to deny that, that is your deal. Illegals can get covered if Obamacare is passed.
    Illegals can't get SS cards, can't get driver licenses. So they will probably not be able to get healthcare cards.

    what sort of other IDs are you referring to?

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    by the goverment healthcare plan. they are not.

    Is that how the 40 million uninsured became the 30 million uninsured?

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    by the goverment healthcare plan. they are not.
    Government healthcare covers emergency room service. Illegals get this service.

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    so you are saying they will not need to see any kind of ID when we apply for the goverment healthcare plan?

    do you have a link to this? I highly doubt they will be passing the healthcare cards around like baseball cards.
    Republicans have tried to add ammendments which require validation of citizenship for people enrolling into the plan (this is related to HB 3200). The amendments have been defeated. As it is, there is going to be an effective "don't ask, don't tell" policy for people when applying for their govt. card - of course they'll ask for the card at the hospital, or doctor's office; and the patient (legal citizen or foreigner or illegal alien) will most likely have one.

    Of course Obama didn't LIE; but he certainly didn't tell the whole truth.

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    Hippocratic Oath is for pussy's anyways.

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    Government healthcare covers emergency room service. Illegals get this service.
    I was under the impression we ALL pay for the emergency room service right now. We all will under the new reform. nothing will change.

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    Illegals can't get SS cards, can't get driver licenses. So they will probably not be able to get healthcare cards.

    what sort of other IDs are you referring to?
    Wake up. They can get SS cards. They can get DL. They can get jobs here in America. They can get across the borders. Perhaps we should throw them all out and you and I would not have this conversation.

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    Illegals can't get SS cards, can't get driver licenses. So they will probably not be able to get healthcare cards.

    what sort of other IDs are you referring to?
    For 50 bucks you can get phoney SS cards. I'm not sure if they have information behind them, but I know for a fact you can get ones that look like the real deal... even if they have no substance behind them.

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    I was under the impression we ALL pay for the emergency room service right now. We all will under the new reform. nothing will change.
    Illegals don't. People who don't pay taxes don't. That impression would be wrong.

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    Republicans have tried to add ammendments which require validation of citizenship for people enrolling into the plan (this is related to HB 3200). The amendments have been defeated. As it is, there is going to be an effective "don't ask, don't tell" policy for people when applying for their govt. card - of course they'll ask for the card at the hospital, or doctor's office; and the patient (legal citizen or foreigner or illegal alien) will most likely have one.

    Of course Obama didn't LIE; but he certainly didn't tell the whole truth.
    well then they should add that to the plan. I don't see it as being a deal breaker.

    Eventhough I can see that illegals if they want to purchase this plan will actually contribute instead of like jacksomerst says get free healthcare at the ER.


    but again, if this is a must for republicans. they should add it and get this passed.

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    Perhaps we should throw them all out and you and I would not have this conversation.
    so you would agree to this reform if there were no illegals in this country? that's good to know

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    Then Obama should not say illegals are not covered.
    i think his point was that hospitals emergency rooms do not turn any one away. and this has nothing to do with obama care or any one else's health care reform agenda.

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    come on darrin. this "isn't the time or place" to point out hypocrisy. clearly one little "you lie" is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more inappropriate than about half the room booing you. oh well.

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    i think his point was that hospitals emergency rooms do not turn any one away. and this has nothing to do with obama care or any one else's health care reform agenda.

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    but again, if this is a must for republicans. they should add it and get this passed.
    Remember if the democrats come together any bill they want passes without republicans having any say on the matter.

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