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But saying he lied is true!
How many of your posts are from work?
But saying he lied is true!
One could yell that at any president.
So what?
I never said I was blaming Obama regarding illegal actions of the anit-citizenry. All I was pointing out is that though he said..
There is no way all illegals wouldn't be receiving care under the proposed plan if it were to pass.There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false – the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.
Of course they "wouldn't apply" but there can't be a way to insure they wouldn't receive.
Now if we remove those already qualified but not enrolled for Medicaid, what do you think the number would be? What about if we remove those who can afford to buy insurance but don't?
Factcheck already says the bill will not cover illegals. They are wrong though. The only thing the bill won't cover in the current form is "affordability credits" to illegal immigrants. Everything else is still on the table for illegal immigrants.
i wonder if some of the things you say will ever dawn on you.
It never was legal to get a SS card and for illegal immigrants. If someone was issuing them, they belong in jail.
The harrumphing and catcalling is restrained, elaborate, impersonal forms of address are used, and back-benchers receive exquisite courtesy. You obviously haven't watched it carefully. The unruliness of PM's questions is more stylized than spontaneous, and it is mainly aimed at party principals who are mugging for the cameras.
The English are very eccentric -- it's practically a national trait -- and they do have their own eccentric decorum, in its own way no less exacting than our own. A member interrupting the PM directly to say "you lie" would go over no better there than it did here.
You tell me. You're the one who's strangely obsessed with what I do at my office.
Well, I have seen PM Brown look like he was getting a little pissed from time to time.
You're the one strangely obsessed with tampons -- so much that you post about them from work.
Your point?
Comparing PM's Questions -- a question and answer session -- to a Presidential speech, really isn't apt.
Loopholes. You used to be able to obtain a SS card with your Tax ID card. Tax ID cards are issued without checking for immigration papers (The IRS is happy to take money from anybody). Driver licences used to require a lot less paperwok also, and international licences used to be quickly accepted. All this has changed since 9/11.
What's undawning about this..
"There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false – the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."
What is false about the claim if illegals already find a way to utelize government programs now. They will find a way to be able to utelize this (or any other plan) if it should pass.
Maybe he wasn't intentionally lying more so than being extremely narcisstic regarding his beliefs of illegal alliens and how much they drain this country of tax payer money.
Well, we don't have a similar forum in the US, so there's really no way to do an apples-apples comparison. It just doesn't appear to me that the Brits have the save reverence for PM that US legislators have for POTUS.
If you can show a PM being called a liar regularly during speeches, you might have a point. As it is your only point is that MPs react during PMs Questions, which is set up as a give and take in the first place.
I thought factcheck was not on your list of reliable sources since I pointed out their article that proves that lowering taxes doesn't increase revenue. Do you have any other sources to back up your claim? You know, I wouldn't want you to be slandering the POTUS or TOTUS...
But they do for the Queen.
Damn, so Obama is royalty now?
EDIT> I retract this question. It is obvious that he is.
Regarding the "topic" of this thread.
It was the presidents platform to speak. Not any member of congress. Premature remarks during this time are not protocol in our government. I could care less how other governments conduct their business.
That said...if those remarks were made after the speech...Wilson would have been correct in making them.
OMG...I thought factcheck was not on your list of reliable sources since I pointed out their article that proves that lowering taxes doesn't increase revenue. Do you have any other sources to back up your claim? You know, I wouldn't want you to be slandering the POTUS or TOTUS...
Read the bill!
Fact[less] Check is flat out wrong!
I only looked at the Factcheck article because I do look for other information to see both sides. It was linked to a Joe Wilson article I read. At first, I though maybe he was wrong, until I looked up what FactlessCheck said.
God, you're dumb. We were talking about England and how it's DIFFERENT.
Asking that US legislators observe customary AMERICAN decorum does not elevate Obama to the level of British royalty.
Plus which, if you let Joe Wilson off the hook, you forfeit any credibility to complain about Dems booing Bush in the 2005 SOTU.
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