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[clambake]

We already pay for health care for the uninsured through taxes and overcharging of the insured. I suppose you could be for the status quo or demand the practice be stopped and let people die or maybe quit the s game and actually codify and regulate what is already happening.

maybe he likes the sensation.....from behind.

[sam1617]

We already pay for health care for the uninsured through taxes and overcharging of the insured. I suppose you could be for the status quo or demand the practice be stopped and let people die or maybe quit the s game and actually codify and regulate what is already happening.

Why codify and regulate at the federal level, whats wrong with doing it at the state level. Its what Massachusetts did, and they supposedly are happy.

The needs of Texans are not the same needs as those of Oregonians, the federal government is incapable of providing a plan that is well suited for both of those. Texas is theoretically best at providing insurance reform best suited for Texans.

[ChumpDumper]

Why codify and regulate at the federal level, whats wrong with doing it at the state level. Its what Massachusetts did, and they supposedly are happy.

The needs of Texans are not the same needs as those of Oregonians, the federal government is incapable of providing a plan that is well suited for both of those. Texas is theoretically best at providing insurance reform best suited for Texans.

So what do you propose Texas to do?

[sam1617]

Not implement a public plan. Provide some of the insurance reforms mentioned. Continue in reforming medical lawsuits. Allow easier creation of medical insurance co-ops. Figure out a better way to handle emergency care for illegal aliens, what that way is, I don't know...

Edit: And if the state decides to do something crazy, or something that I don't like, at least my vote counts for 1 of 24 million, rather than 1 of 304 million. I have a greater say and more influence if actions are taken at a state level.

[ChumpDumper]

Not implement a public plan.

Why not?

Provide some of the insurance reforms mentioned.

Which ones?

Continue in reforming medical lawsuits.

Has the previous tort reform had any effect whatsoever on health care costs?

Allow easier creation of medical insurance co-ops.

So co-ops are good?

Figure out a better way to handle emergency care for illegal aliens, what that way is, I don't know...

Fair enough.

[LnGrrrR]

They take away your license eventually. How does that work with your life?

*shrug* Got me. The same thing that happens to people who don't pay property taxes or whatnot.

If you can't afford to pay the health insurance tax, then they will provide vouchers, etc etc. That's already been do ented.

[LnGrrrR]

I thought that this plan wasn't costing us a dime extra.

Yes, that's called lying. It's what politicians do.

[doobs]

We already pay for health care for the uninsured through taxes and overcharging of the insured. I suppose you could be for the status quo or demand the practice be stopped and let people die or maybe quit the s game and actually codify and regulate what is already happening.

I'm not even saying I disagree with the idea.

I'm just pointing out that this might become a political liability for Obama, given his tax pledges during the campaign.

[Wild Cobra]

When will president Obama and the demonrats stop lying?

[Marcus Bryant]

LMAO

EVERYONE pays taxes. stop nitpicking. show me 1 person you know that isn't suppossed to pay taxes.

maybe a person with no arms and legs pays no taxes. but you know what, I'm sure he gets health insurance, at your expense.

Right. The federal government should force you to pay for X because, hey, you gotta pay taxes!

Man, this country is ing stupid.

[LnGrrrR]

When will politicians stop lying?

Fixed it for you.

And the answer is... *drumroll*

Never. Obviously.

Also, do you think saying "demonrats" helps your credibility?

[hater]

Right. The federal government should force you to pay for X because, hey, you gotta pay taxes!

you obviously didnt listen to the speech . therein are the reasons why fed wants to force you to pay. Maybe you can still catch the speech on cnn.com?

paying taxes is not a reason, just an example of goverment forcing you to do something. It has already been happening for centuries. So it's nothing radically new.

Man, this country is ing stupid.

I agree 10000000%

[to21]

When will president Obama and the demonrats stop lying?

Ahhh..I guess you're waiting for the US to find weapons of mass destructions also huh?

[hater]

Ahhh..I guess you're waiting for the US to find weapons of mass destructions also huh?

[Marcus Bryant]

you obviously didnt listen to the speech . therein are the reasons why fed wants to force you to pay. Maybe you can still catch the speech on cnn.com?

So what? The feds always have things they want to do with our money.

paying taxes is not a reason, just an example of goverment forcing you to do something. It has already been happening for centuries. So it's nothing radically new.

Yes, the government forces you to do things. Maybe it can't force you to do everything. Unless you, like Friedman, want to lick some Chicom boots.

[hater]

So what? The feds always have things they want to do with our money.





Yes, the government forces you to do things. Maybe it can't force you to do everything. Unless you, like Friedman, want to lick some Chicom boots.

I agree with you there. way to go off topic

[Yonivore]

”Reducing the waste and inefficiency in Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan.”

So, if his Health Care ... Aaagh! Health Insurance … wait, which is it? … let’s go with Health Insurance today; so, if his Health Insurance Reform Plan isn’t enacted can we expect he’ll still tackle the “waste and inefficiency” in Medicare and Medicaid? Or, will he keep it in there, out of spite?

Seriously, he’s been in office for eight months, what has he done about the “waste and inefficiency” so far?

[sam1617]

My thing, if all of these things are so important why do they have to be in this one gigantic bill? Fix Medicare and medicaid. Everyone agrees it needs it. You can likely get it passed with ease.

Then go on and fix other things that people agree on.

Then after all that, life will have gotten better but if its still not enough, then start going after the stuff that is hard to pass.

It seems like that would be a far more productive and efficient solution...

[George Gervin's Afro]

So, if his Health Care ... Aaagh! Health Insurance … wait, which is it? … let’s go with Health Insurance today; so, if his Health Insurance Reform Plan isn’t enacted can we expect he’ll still tackle the “waste and inefficiency” in Medicare and Medicaid? Or, will he keep it in there, out of spite?

Seriously, he’s been in office for eight months, what has he done about the “waste and inefficiency” so far?

There's a reason why America rejected your kind of politics..

[Yonivore]

Well, it looks like the President got results!

CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Oh wait! Nevermind, we oversampled Democrats...

The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a whole.

Let me see...that would bring Democrats that should have been polled down to what? 35-37? And Republicans up to what? 26-28? Nah, that wouldn't have made a difference...

[Yonivore]

There's a reason why America rejected your kind of politics..

And now, they're regretting it.

By the way, America rejected McCain's politics and those aren't mine.

[nuclearfm]

And now, they're regretting it.

By the way, America rejected McCain's politics and those aren't mine.

America was largely indifferent to McCain. Sarah Palin was a different story. She rallied up the morons and scared any sane minds left. I voted for McCain in the New Hampshire primary, that was the end of it.