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Democrats could have Town Hall meetings at the hospital. They require ID to attend those now.
It's not that expensive.
You only wish.
Democrats could have Town Hall meetings at the hospital. They require ID to attend those now.
It's not that expensive.
Oh Geeze. any common sense. It's no holds barred. The funny thing is that most of the idiots are arguing against their benefit and in favor of mine. I have insurance stock.
No, I don't. However, as full of holes HB 3200 is, the committees that decide things can pretty much do as they please.
Bull , you were trying to attach it to the issue at hand, most notably in another thread,
Lawsuits from US citizens mistakenly denied care aren't cheap. that's why hospitals will never go along with your suggestion.
Provision of health care to illegal aliens and how to resolve the issue of illegal immigration, itself, are two separate issues.
Neither is providing free health care to illegal aliens. I'm willing to take the risk.
Is this a fact? Can you back it up?
Absolutely sure. The IRS does not check immigration status when issuing Tax ID cards/numbers or filing returns. Furthermore, when an illegal alien files to become legal (say because they married a citizen), DHS will request your last 3 years of tax returns, which automatically implies that you should have been filing your taxes even if you weren't a legal alien. If you know any illegal aliens, go ask them if they file a tax return. You'll be surprised.
I'm willing to bet I know more of immigration laws at this point that I've had to go through the entire system myself without a lawyer, than you'll ever know.
My friends all ended up getting their US citizenship 3 or 4 years ago. What's actually funny is that once they got their American passports issued they actually moved back to their countries of origin, for whatever reason.
They spent almost 15 years going through all that crap only to GTFO. Just weird.
I'd like to know who changed the law. It didn't use to be like that.
ing moore-on politicians.
Name me any other country that denies emergency care to illegal aliens, and/or deports them after providing care. As a matter of fact, I can already think of a couple of countries that will provide said emergency care absolutely for free without even sending out a bill.
Hospitals won't be.
The hammer falls..
Like all right-wingers, Yoni, WC, Whott, don't have solutions, only NO! and objections and trashing.
Illegals cost 20% of public health cafre, US citizens 80%. It's a HUMANitarian problem (like humanitarian problems in poor countries, esp where Repugs have busted in, started bull resource wars, ,destroyed the country), which Magic Negro is attempting to solve, while the right-wing peanut gallery throws rotten eggs with and posseses NO GOOD WILL to help solve the problems.
The US medical system is so expensive that even the super-wealthy US can't afford it.
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You are?
Personally?
So you want to be in charge of deciding who seems legal enough to receive hospital care -- and responsible legally and financially for any mistakes you make?
No, you aren't.
that mofo is an enforcerThe hammer falls..
he looks like the only guy there thats in shape
ROFL. What a ing poser. But if you like hard Jews like Nbadan I guess he looks impressive.
Funny, he doesn't have any authority in Congress.
It should be noted that Congressman Wilson rightly apologized for breaking decorum but, so far, has refused to recant his characterization of President Obama's statement being -- as he now puts it -- inaccurate.
In fact, Congress is now busily plugging the loopholes in HR3200 President Obama says didn't exist. Seems to me that vindicates Congressman Wilson.
I also think that President Obama's and Vice President Biden's acceptance of his apology should have ended the discussion but, Democrats in Congress seem intent on shooting themselves in the foot over this issue trying to force Wilson to humiliate himself in the well.
We'll see if that succeeds.
you know damn well Republicans would LOVE to have a guy like that on their team. Dude is muscle.
Wilson did a favor for Democrats. the plan will pass now, I think.It should be noted that Congressman Wilson rightly apologized for breaking decorum but, so far, has refused to recant his characterization of President Obama's statement being -- as he now puts it -- inaccurate.
In fact, Congress is now busily plugging the loopholes in HR3200 President Obama says didn't exist. Seems to me that vindicates Congressman Wilson.
he humiliated himself all on his ownI also think that President Obama's and Vice President Biden's acceptance of his apology should have ended the discussion but, Democrats in Congress seem intent on shooting themselves in the foot over this issue trying to force Wilson to humiliate himself in the well.
We'll see if that succeeds.
What makes you think they don't? President Bush was able to get much of his agenda through an obstinate Congress that cursed him in public and passed his legislative initiatives at the Capitol.
I don't think it will. There's still the question, dividing Democrats, over whether or not the "public" option will be included.
He doesn't appear to be humiliated to me. In fact, he seems to be enjoying somewhat of a boost in his esteem.
The only post-comment poll I've seen has him now in a dead heat with his Democratic rival in the his district. We'll see if that's a trend.
"in 2003, Wilson voted to provide federal funds for illegal immigrants’ healthcare. The vote came on the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement and Modernization Act of 2003, which contained Sec. 1011 authorizing $250,000 annually between 2003 and 2008 for government reimbursements to hospitals who provide treatment for uninsured illegal immigrants. The program has been extended through 2009 and there is currently a bipartisan bill in Congress to make it permanent."
http://www.opencongress.org/articles...nts-Healthcare
Yeah, I saw where the guy (his ostensible opponent) got a $400,000 (now up to a cool million) boost since the comment.
But, today, there's this.
S.C.'s Wilson Rakes In $750,000 in Less Than 48 Hours; Opponent Tops $1 Million
I'd be interested to know the source of funds -- given to both camps. Were they from the cons uent base or some national effort to capitalize on the incident.
Anyway, depending on how sustained the giving is to both, neither number is a definitive sign that Wilson was humiliated.
he's a liar!
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