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    Yeah, the moralizing, condemning, arrogant left exhibits no hypocrisy. Shut the up already.

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    It's fun to miss school to hear someone tell you to stay in school.

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    You could fall over from the hypocrisy of the right

    You have no room to talk, Mr. Boycott School if They Won't Show the Video.

    Quit bringing kids into your stupid partisan arena, all of you. Assholes.

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    You have no room to talk, Mr. Boycott School if They Won't Show the Video.

    Quit bringing kids into your stupid partisan arena, all of you. Assholes.
    ....it was a joke Sper..minator....geezzz..


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    Wrong!

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    ....it was a joke Sper..minator....geezzz..

    It's a abomination that a vocal minority that isn't even a majority within the city limits of San Antonio can dictate what kids can and can't watch at school based entirely on fear and paranoia. I propose that parents who really care about free speech and aren't being brain-washed by hours of wing-nut radio keep their kids home on Tuesday from any Texas district that has made the choice to 'play it safe' instead of doing the right thing and airing the President's speech.

    Hit em in the pocketbook and write your local school board president and let him know that you are extremely disappointed with their decision to play along with race and ideological based fear that can not be defended with any sense of logic.
    You're right, how did I miss the obvious satirical tone of your boycott post. Woosh!

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    Yeah - don't you just hate those "carpetbaggers"... like Hillary Clinton, who moved to New York specifically to get elected Senator.

    However, George W came to Texas when he was 2 years old, so he's been a "Texan" for a long, long time.
    Except I don't give a about New York.

    I give a about Texas and that guy is not a Texan... no matter how many pairs of jeans he owns.

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    Obama wanting to teach our kids for a hour until America caught wind of it = no permision from parents

    Checking out Cowboy stadium = field trip permission slips signed by parents
    The districts did not offer the children the opportunity to watch the speech as part of a school function with the parents' permission. That is really all they had to do- say we need your parents' permisison for you to watch this speech and if you do not have it, then you will not watch it.

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    If the school district was being sincere about not wanting to show Obama's speech because it would disrupt their class schedule, then 101A is right and this is a bunch to do about nothing. If one event was planned far in advance and one wasn't, it's perfectly legitimate to attend the event you planned for and skip the one you didn't.

    Is it possible that the school district just used the interputs schedule line as an excuse not to show Obama's speech? Sure. And if that's the case, then the school district is in the wrong. But there's no way to know which it is one way or the other.
    Schools change schedules all the time with little or no notice. Sometimes they even do it in the middle of the same day.

    For example, I know that next Friday the NISD middle schools have an early release day. I also know for a fact that at one school, the teachers have not received a schedule for what will occur that day. Will each class meet but for half the time? Will only half the periods meet and then the other half of them meet next time there is an early release day? They have no clue and will probably not know until Wednesday or Thursday. But this is the same ISD that could not show Obama for 10 minutes when they had advance notice because supposedly they have to plan everything so far in advance and not be disruptive to that schedule.

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    You're right, how did I miss the obvious satirical tone of your boycott post. Woosh!
    ....I guess the part about 'what about the kids that want to be indoctrinated' wasn't clue enough...

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    Schools change schedules all the time with little or no notice. Sometimes they even do it in the middle of the same day.

    For example, I know that next Friday the NISD middle schools have an early release day. I also know for a fact that at one school, the teachers have not received a schedule for what will occur that day. Will each class meet but for half the time? Will only half the periods meet and then the other half of them meet next time there is an early release day? They have no clue and will probably not know until Wednesday or Thursday. But this is the same ISD that could not show Obama for 10 minutes when they had advance notice because supposedly they have to plan everything so far in advance and not be disruptive to that schedule.
    ...that's because it wasn't about disturbing set curriculum at all, that's an argument against constant fire drills not watching the President speak to kids about working hard and staying in school....this was about bowing before the hannity/beck/Rush crowd that was sending wing-nuts and other impressional Americans into a frenzy...

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    ...that's because it wasn't about disturbing set curriculum at all, that's an argument against constant fire drills not watching the President speak to kids about working hard and staying in school....this was about bowing before the hannity/beck/Rush crowd that was sending wing-nuts and other impressional Americans into a frenzy...
    Bull .

    The content of the speech was released less than 24 hrs. before school started. Too little notice to change.

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    The funny thing about all of this no matter the details, these speeches disrupt the regular classroom session for all, early warning or not. If A student decides to opt out, they're screwed over anyway because of the students who opted in. The teacher has to accommodate both groups, and likely will slow the class down.

    The fact is that it is undeniable that a Field trip is a much bigger disruption in acadmeic agenda. That is clear. These other straw man arguments are really pointless.

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    The fact is that it is undeniable that a Field trip is a much bigger disruption in acadmeic agenda. That is clear. These other straw man arguments are really pointless.
    So do we eliminate all field trips?

    Come on. Planned five months in advance, and permission slips.

    Get real.

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    The content of the speech was released less than 24 hrs. before school started. Too little notice to change.
    Has Bush released the content of his speech yet?

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    So do we eliminate all field trips?
    I would wish that for the rare field trip that students get to take now days that it might be to a museum or a historical site not to a football stadium.

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    Bull .

    The content of the speech was released less than 24 hrs. before school started. Too little notice to change.
    That's just because idiots thought it was going to be something other than a stay in school and work hard speech.

    It never was going to be anything more than that and the idiots don't realize how stupid they look pissing their pants about it.

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    So do we eliminate all field trips?

    Come on. Planned five months in advance, and permission slips.

    Get real.
    Should we eliminate all speeches? Get real. These two people switch places and you'll be arguing about how un educational it is for the student to leave school.

    It's one thing to support one political figure over the other but it's quite another to be appallingly full of . And boy, you smell.

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    Schools change schedules all the time with little or no notice. Sometimes they even do it in the middle of the same day.

    For example, I know that next Friday the NISD middle schools have an early release day. I also know for a fact that at one school, the teachers have not received a schedule for what will occur that day. Will each class meet but for half the time? Will only half the periods meet and then the other half of them meet next time there is an early release day? They have no clue and will probably not know until Wednesday or Thursday. But this is the same ISD that could not show Obama for 10 minutes when they had advance notice because supposedly they have to plan everything so far in advance and not be disruptive to that schedule.
    Just because schools sometimes have to juggle their schedule because something comes up doesn't mean they're obligated to do so every single time that something comes up. I have no doubts that there are plenty of school districts out there who just used the schedule bit as an excuse to not show the speech so that they didn't have to deal with irate parents who were paranoid that Obama was going to turn their kids into socialists (irrationally so, as I stated in the "indoctrinate" thread). I also have no doubts that some districts out there who did stay above the politics of it and didn't show it because they genuinely felt that it wasn't the best use of their time. So which case is it for Arlington? I have no idea.

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    ....I guess the part about 'what about the kids that want to be indoctrinated' wasn't clue enough...

    You're going to pick out a remark you made later in the thread as evidence that your whole thread was a joke? Nice try.

    Either way, it's good to see you've come around to the idea that kids should be left out of their parents' partisan pissing matches.

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    People are trying to stir up trouble and controversy where there isn't any. This field trip was planned MONTHS ago, and parents have to sign permission slips for their children to participate. This isn't a speech by a sitting President, it's a chance for these kids to meet and hear from MANY notable Texans, including Cowboys players. Don't you think the kids would much rather go to the new stadium and actually meet these famous people, than sit in class and listen to ANOTHER boring speech by Obama.

    There is no double standard and people need to just shut up and leave things alone. Obama was supposed to be the one to unite America - instead he's the most polarizing President ever.

    rove's plan was to govern to the 51% of the country. is that polarizing?

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    I also have no doubts that some districts out there who did stay above the politics of it and didn't show it because they genuinely felt that it wasn't the best use of their time.
    I am curious as to whether you have kids or any interaction with a school district currently because schools waste so much time on so much BS now. This notion, therefore, just does not fly with me, especially for elementary kids who sometimes sit and watch videos. A speech by the President is rejected as unsuitable viewing because it does meet up to their high curricular standings but a trip to a football stadium does.

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    This topic showed me two things.......that Bush still has effect on sheeple even out of office. and what School yonnivore will now send his kids to.

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    I am curious as to whether you have kids or any interaction with a school district currently because schools waste so much time on so much BS now. This notion, therefore, just does not fly with me, especially for elementary kids who sometimes sit and watch videos. A speech by the President is rejected as unsuitable viewing because it does meet up to their high curricular standings but a trip to a football stadium does.
    So a school can't decide that they're already devoting enough days to field trips? Maybe if Obama had announced his plans to give his speech months ago the school would have decided to let their students watch that and they'd have skipped the super bowl thing. There's only so many days in a school year, so there's only so many days schools can devote to other things. Maybe they've already planned out all those days and don't feel like they can spare another one.

    Anyone who is in a tissy over this is just as bad as the parents who got in a tissy over not wanting their kids to see Obama's speech. You're all one big bunch of hypocrites selectively expressing outrage depending on whether or not the kids get to see "your guy" or "the other guy" speak.

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    First of all, he's not the sitting president any more. He's not pushing an agenda like president Obama is.
    Are you of the opinion that former Presidents don't have any ability to 'indoctrinate' people with ideas?

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