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    A CBS News poll shows that Americans now give him the best marks of his presidency on handling health care, but they're still divided over whether he's clearly explained his plan. And only 22 percent of those asked said the reforms now being considered would help them personally.

    The day after Mr. Obama's congressional address, CBS re-interviewed 678 adults first questioned in a poll conducted August 27-31.

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    Last week, just 40 percent of these adults approved of how the president was handling health care. More, 47 percent, disapproved. After the speech, 52 percent said they approved and only 38 percent said they disapproved. Those are the best assessments for Mr. Obama's handling of health care shown all year by CBS News Polls.

    President Obama's speech was particularly successful in unifying Democrats. Now, 85 percent of them approve of his handling of health care.

    Approval rates also rose among independents and Republicans, but independents are still divided and only 17 percent of Republicans approve of the president's health care actions.

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    However, a majority of all adults still aren't sure he has met one important goal; clarifying what reforms would mean — although there has been major improvement. Before the speech, just 33 percent said Mr. Obama had clearly explained his plans for reform. That rose to 42 percent afterward, but 43 percent still said he had not clearly explained his plans.

    All of the improvement on this question came from those who watched the speech. A majority of those who watched the speech, 58 percent, said the president had explained his plans, up from 40 percent before the speech. But among those who didn't watch, only one in four now say he has explained his plans — the same percentage as before the speech.

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    Still, most Americans remain skeptical about how reforms currently under consideration in Congress would affect them personally. Just 22 percent of Americans think the reforms under consideration in Congress would help them personally. Twenty-seven percent think the new plans would hurt them. Those numbers have hardly changed at all since last w

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09...y5302288.shtml

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    You lie!

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    Sure, when 24% of your sample consists of Republicans. Duh.

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    Sure, when 24% of your sample consists of Republicans. Duh.
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    Undersampled. But whatever makes you feel better.

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    Some experts say this bump will only last three or four days.

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    Wow another one of your pointless and boring posts, are you just trying to bury us under with them

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    Some experts say this bump will only last three or four days.
    That's when polls will matter!

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    Brian Fantana: [about Veronica] I'll give this little cookie an hour before we're doing the no-pants dance. Time to musk up.
    [opens cologne cabinet]
    Ron Burgundy: Wow. Never ceases to amaze me. What cologne you gonna go with? London Gentleman, or wait. No, no, no. Hold on. Blackbeard's Delight.
    Brian Fantana: No, she gets a special cologne... It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
    Ron Burgundy: It's quite pungent.
    Brian Fantana: Oh yeah.
    Ron Burgundy: It's a formidable scent... It stings the nostrils. In a good way.
    Brian Fantana: Yep.
    Ron Burgundy: Brian, I'm gonna be honest with you, that smells like pure gasoline.
    Brian Fantana: They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
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    Ron Burgundy: That doesn't make sense.
    Brian Fantana: Well... Let's go see if we can make this little kitty purr.

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    Just kidding, I love San Diego...

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    That's when polls will matter!




    Shut your mouth!!!!

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    Polls, polls, polls..is all we hear these days for the oabma haters..yet they defended a guy who never governed by the polls..wrap your heads around that one..

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    Who did they poll?

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    Polls, polls, polls..is all we hear these days for the oabma haters..yet they defended a guy who never governed by the polls..wrap your heads around that one..
    A lot of people, in here (I don't know if this applies to you, in particular), were fairly reliant on polls to support their criticism of President Bush.

    I think those people are just being engaged in terms it is believed they'll understand.

    I think I just wrapped my head around that one.

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    A lot of people, in here (I don't know if this applies to you, in particular), were fairly reliant on polls to support their criticism of President Bush.

    I think those people are just being engaged in terms it is believed they'll understand.

    I think I just wrapped my head around that one.
    You always praised bush for not governing by the polls..

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    You always praised bush for not governing by the polls..
    Yes, I did.

    But, that's not even germane in this context. Bush isn't even under consideration. Even if I believed Bush wasn't a poll-driven president, and I did -- and do, that didn't stop a whole lot of people in here from constantly referring to them.

    Again, just speaking a language those people understand. I'm not even making a statement on whether or not Obama is poll-driven. I don't have an opinion on that...yet. He's still relatively new to the job.

    Apples and oranges. It's not about the subject of the polls; it's about the people who rely on them.

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    Yes, I did.

    But, that's not even germane in this context. Bush isn't even under consideration. Even if I believed Bush wasn't a poll-driven president, and I did -- and do, that didn't stop a whole lot of people in here from constantly referring to them.

    Again, just speaking a language those people understand. I'm not even making a statement on whether or not Obama is poll-driven. I don't have an opinion on that...yet. He's still relatively new to the job.

    Apples and oranges. It's not about the subject of the polls; it's about the people who rely on them.
    So then Obama or any Presiedent shouldn't govern based on polls.. I agree.

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    So then Obama or any Presiedent shouldn't govern based on polls.. I agree.
    I think the last democrat president that was man enough to stand against polls was JFK. All since were followers. Not leaders.

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    I think the last democrat president that was man enough to stand against polls was JFK. All since were followers. Not leaders.
    just hilighted the important part.

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    just hilighted the important part.
    Thank you for acknowledging I do think.


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    So then Obama or any Presiedent shouldn't govern based on polls.. I agree.
    Great! Me too. But, that's still not relevant to this discussion.

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    Well, I think these are important:

    President Obama's speech was particularly successful in unifying Democrats. Now, 85 percent of them approve of his handling of health care.

    Approval rates also rose among independents and Republicans, but independents are still divided and only 17 percent of Republicans approve of the president's health care actions.
    Just 22 percent of Americans think the reforms under consideration in Congress would help them personally. Twenty-seven percent think the new plans would hurt them.

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    Well, I think these are important:
    That's because that about the same percentage of Americans currently being F'ed over in the current system. I'm happy with my care myself and doubt it would help, but it doesn't mean I don't recognize other issues.

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    "Just 22 percent of Americans think the reforms under consideration in Congress would help them personally.

    Twenty-seven percent think the new plans would hurt them."

    Does this assuming they have good knowledge of all the details of the reform plan?

    (of course having knowledge about the reform plan means they ignore all the scare-mongering, issue-confusing, and lies coming your side.)

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