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    After watching the Pac-10 dominate all other conferences do you think it's bad for college football? Please discuss...

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    I don't know... considering the Pac-10 is tied for last in BCS National Championships...

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    Didn't Oregon just lose to a WAC team?

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    Never heard of the pac-20 mr shlong

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    to be fair...the Pac-10 is underrated, but they aren't the best conference. USC should have another le or 2, which would help their cause, but like i touched on earlier their extra conference game can really hurt the perception.

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    to be fair...the Pac-10 is underrated, but they aren't the best conference. USC should have another le or 2, which would help their cause, but like i touched on earlier their extra conference game can really hurt the perception.
    lol still bitter about 41-38

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    lol still bitter about 41-38
    even aside from that.

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    so you think they should've played florida last year instead of penn state. cool.

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    life must be easy for SC fan. plays in bad conference, gets overrated rankings by media, free trip to rose bowl every year. yeah.

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    life must be easy for SC fan. plays in bad conference, gets overrated rankings by media, free trip to rose bowl every year. yeah.
    1) they play in a tough conference

    2) aren't overrated

    3) get the best players

    ...yeah, its easy right now, but things can change.

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    life must be easy for SC fan. plays in bad conference, gets overrated rankings by media, free trip to rose bowl every year. yeah.
    They do play in a bad conference and they do get a free trip to the rose bowl but they're not overrated. They get the best players (like Texas & Florida) in their region which is a good region.

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    "overrated media rankings"

    reading is fundamental

    i know their players are good but you look better when you play in a bad conference like SC does. SC is always ranked top 5 to start every year and they shouldn't be.

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    pac 10 is pretty average.

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    "overrated media rankings"

    reading is fundamental

    i know their players are good but you look better when you play in a bad conference like SC does. SC is always ranked top 5 to start every year and they shouldn't be.
    holy . there hasn't been a year in the past 7 where USC wasn't easily a top 5 team. out of conference wins prove it by themselves.

    you're ing nuts...and seemingly a hater.

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    "overrated media rankings"

    reading is fundamental

    i know their players are good but you look better when you play in a bad conference like SC does. SC is always ranked top 5 to start every year and they shouldn't be.
    Are you really trying to distinguish "overrated" from "overrated media rankings" because that's exactly what I meant?

    Either way, you're still wrong. They're ranking is not overrated by the media. They are a top 5 team ever year. Sorry... you lose.

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    Either way, you're still wrong. They're ranking is not overrated by the media. They are a top 5 team ever year. Sorry... you lose.
    Not this year. They would get chode bloaded by a lot of teams in the top 10. Got lucky against Buckeye.

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    pac 10 is pretty average.
    this

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    So far I would say the Pac-10 is better this year than they were last year. Lets see how they handle this week though. Some interesting games for the Pac-10 this week.

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    After watching the Pac-10 dominate all other conferences do you think it's bad for college football? Please discuss...
    while i don't go as far you as you, it is incredible how little respect the pac 10 conference gets. its not the best, but its very good, it appears. course, naysayers will point out the oregon game...whatever.

    guess 5-0 in bowl games doesn't matter.

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    tlong, once people have made up their mind...they are very resistant to change.

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    tlong, once people have made up their mind...they are very resistant to change.
    This quote explains jgw perfectly.......but he tends to change school loyalty like he changes porno dvds....whatever is good at the time

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    Pac-10 is above average, but no more than that. If someone else could wrestle the le away from SC every 3-4 years (I hate saying it, but they need a Texas to their OU) they'd be considered elite. I really think it's that simple. UCLA may be able to do that sometime soon, but until they start getting multiple teams in the top 15 consistent - which will be tough, considering they all play each other ever year - nobody short of their own fan bases will take them seriously east of the Rockies.

    I think a lot of people see not having a conference championship game a weakness. I sit the fence on that one. While it gives the collective members a chance to have geographic champs play each other - usually with somewhat gaudy records - look at these preseason and early season darlings that get talked up with one of the reasons being they don't have to face a certain league opponent that year. The Pac-10 doesn't have that luxury.

    We can play that inferior talent / ty conference card all we want, but the fact is that SC has played all other nine schools in their league every year and been dominant. You get a rematch every season and they still win 90% of the time. Factor in that Notre Dame is a constant in their three game OOC window and now they're playing Ohio State as well. One cupcake, two biggies, and nine league games. We get bored with SC's dominance but if Texas had to play Nebraska and Colorado every year, we lose at least one in eight, more like 2-3. That's mid-level and not even accounting for upstarts like KU and Mizzou.

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    Pac-10 is above average, but no more than that. If someone else could wrestle the le away from SC every 3-4 years (I hate saying it, but they need a Texas to their OU) they'd be considered elite. I really think it's that simple. UCLA may be able to do that sometime soon, but until they start getting multiple teams in the top 15 consistent - which will be tough, considering they all play each other ever year - nobody short of their own fan bases will take them seriously east of the Rockies.

    I think a lot of people see not having a conference championship game a weakness. I sit the fence on that one. While it gives the collective members a chance to have geographic champs play each other - usually with somewhat gaudy records - look at these preseason and early season darlings that get talked up with one of the reasons being they don't have to face a certain league opponent that year. The Pac-10 doesn't have that luxury.

    We can play that inferior talent / ty conference card all we want, but the fact is that SC has played all other nine schools in their league every year and been dominant. You get a rematch every season and they still win 90% of the time. Factor in that Notre Dame is a constant in their three game OOC window and now they're playing Ohio State as well. One cupcake, two biggies, and nine league games. We get bored with SC's dominance but if Texas had to play Nebraska and Colorado every year, we lose at least one in eight, more like 2-3. That's mid-level and not even accounting for upstarts like KU and Mizzou.

    the Pac-10 has to be above average considering the other conferences out there...right? i think they are good. that being said...

    you're right on with the rest of this post. i posted an article about this very same thing a little while back, and of course, it got no attention. the pac 10 consistently plays tough OOC schedules and you hit the nail on the head...theres a reason a pac 10 team comes up and bites USC almost each year.

    so here's the question j-6...whats more difficult, the USC schedule? or the system of their schedule?

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    sec is the best conference. big 12 and pac 10 are pretty much a toss up for second.

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