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Funny how you say Bret wasn't a great technical wrestler but you cite Benoit who trained with the Hart family
He didn't use the same moves over and over again. He used more moves than pretty much every other superstar, especially in today's WWE. He was so good at fake wrestling that he actually made it look crazy real. His Iron Man match with Shawn Michaels was the best match ever IMO.
Funny how you say Bret wasn't a great technical wrestler but you cite Benoit who trained with the Hart family
Bret Hart, while one of the best entertainers of all time, used different variations of the same moves over and over again. Even all of his fellow wrestlers said the same things. When he tried to go out of his "comfort zone," he went a little stiff, and made some bad decisions. Shawn Michaels is one of those guys who felt it.
The matches he had with Dean Malenko in WCW were insane. Those were fantastic. I loved Chris Benoit and it's a shame what he did.
Man the beating Cena took from the Singapore cane was crazy! The best part was using Orton's arm during the STF to make him say, "I quit." That was awesome. Almost as good as when Beth Phoenix kicked Melina in the back of the head with Melina's own leg.
When Cena cuffed Orton, and then got pissed off and flexed surprised the out of me. I knew he was big, but damn I didn't know he was that ripped.
You can throw in the Rock, Triple H, and Shawn Michaels in there as well. They use the same basic moves and setups for their moves. You want guys to use the moves they are most comfortable with, so using "only 5 moves" doesn't really bother me. As long as it looks good in the ring, that's all that is important.
Exactly...mavs>spurs thought I was bashing Bret..no...it's normal to use only 5 moves...
Definitely a huge shame..
Yeah...pretty much. I'm not bashing Bret..maybe he had a lot of moves he knew...he just didn't use a lot of moves..and that's fine...there's nothing wrong with that when the moves you do use are spotless..and that was his situation.
He used a very wide array of moves in all of his big matches. I'm not really sure what you're talking about. Submissions, every variation of suplexes and body slams, going to the top rope, you name it. He was much more varietal and creative with moves in his matches than anyone in the WWE today.
I believe this is what he's referring to:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...iveMovesOfDoom
how about the lil punnk rey mysterio? dude does all this acrobatic looks good....
That's just five different FINISHING moves. He uses a lot more than that throughout the match. Later I'm going to post some classic Bret Hart matches and we can count the moves.
I'm not disagreeing with you - just pointing out where the whole "Bret wins the match with the same five moves" mindset comes from.
Personally, I think it's overblown - wrestlers need to have familiar moves the fans pop for. The successful ones are those who are able to sell the match without requiring much more than those moves, while the best ones are able to get the fans to pop for more than just their signature stuff.
These two distinctions are by no means exclusive.
Figure 4 leglock on the ringpost wasn't a signature move of his, but it sure got a big pop out of the crowd around 1:45
i thought brett was known for his sharpshooter?
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